Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio scored a victory last week when the seventh holiday music lawsuit was dismissed. According to a news release from the Sheriff's Office:
Nevertheless, less than a week later, county officials asked the state to investigate the purchase of a $465,000 inmate transfer bus. As readers may remember, the sheriff fired back with a video after an internal audit in November found his office violated procurement procedures.
Judge Snow's order found "neutral secular purposes for playing holiday music" included reducing tension in the facilities. In addition, the judge found no "excessive government entanglement with religion" and no attempt to advance religion.
Nevertheless, less than a week later, county officials asked the state to investigate the purchase of a $465,000 inmate transfer bus. As readers may remember, the sheriff fired back with a video after an internal audit in November found his office violated procurement procedures.
Labels: holiday music, inmate transport bus
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Let's join sheriff Joe on the short bus.
I love, love, love Sheriff Joe. Without him the crime rate would be worse than it is.
Joe is 40 miles of bad road.
Maybe Joe, Hendersquat and Fox can take the bus to federal prison. Ya never know.
BULL Channel 5 News
Channel 5, do you have any important news to report on? This is the most pathetic attempt I ever seen to report the news. Not only is this not a real news story, that the lowest budget news paper wouldn’t even bother with, but also the writer of this story needs to go back to school. I hope your next post reports this reporter being fired. There is plenty of people out there that need a job. Find a real reporter OK.
Channel 5 is doing a great job of keeping exposing and keeping the pressure on the twits at MCSO, especially Joe Arpaio. I thought Meacham was bad for Arizona, Arpaio makes him look like an innocent choir boy.
Keep up the good work Channel 5.
I wish we had one like him in every city in good ole USA.
To Anonymous above who defends 5
Didn't they fire you yet? Or are you trying to make up for the non news you reported on here. Good luck but, I'm sure you will be out of a job, no matter what you can muster up in your defense of being so ignorant.
Not so fun when the rabbits got the gun is it five.
I want Sheriff Arpaio to know that all he does, I agree with. I don't think he is abusing his power and I don't think the sweeps he does is out of line.
WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE...ADMINISTRATION/CORRUPT NEED TO BE IN JAIL. JOE'S THE ONE TO DO IT
No. Just lock up Joe and his clowns. That will end this BS and the waste of my hard earned tax dollars. Goodbye fat man!
Anonymous said...
Channel 5 is doing a great job of keeping exposing and keeping the pressure on the twits at MCSO, especially Joe Arpaio. I thought Meacham was bad for Arizona, Arpaio makes him look like an innocent choir boy. "You poor stupid twit. Evan Mecham was railroaded by the same types of mindless fools, that you now see pulling the same crap on Joe Arpaio. KPHO was there during the Mecham trials and if KPHO had even an ounce of integrity in that entire corporation, they would tell you, they screwed up then and they are screwing up now. Evan Mecham wanted only the best for Arizona, which meant he wanted no political corruption, no white collar criminals, no Martin Luther King day in Arizona, ( because King didn't deserve one ) King was a sham and a disgrace to his race. And most of all, Mr. Mecham did not want illegal Mexicans crawling all over Arizona, like cockroaches, sucking up all of our resources and leaving nothing for the legal residence of this state. Joe Arpiao, wants the same things for Arizona, a clean state, free from political corruption and illegal aliens.Evan Mecham "fell" from the weight of the politically corrupt in this state in his time.Believe me, should the sheriff "fall" from that same weight in his time, it will not be an easy take down. J.W. Simms.
Now that I have moved away from Arizona, Every once in a while I go to some of these chats to see if the people in the state of Arizona are still dumb asses. I am as always again not disappointed. At least one dumb ass official in Arizona is about to be locked up. Keep voting for dumb asses AZ people! Stay stupid and bake to death in the 115 deg heat! lol!
RUNNING FROM ILLEGALS?
Anonymous said...
Now that I have moved away from Arizona, Every once in a while I go to some of these chats to see if the people in the state of Arizona are still dumb asses. I am as always again not disappointed. At least one dumb ass official in Arizona is about to be locked up. Keep voting for dumb asses AZ people! Stay stupid and bake to death in the 115 deg heat! lol!
"Swim back to Mexico did you pal? J.W. Simms."
The true MCSO is represented on this blog. Racist and very thick headed. Most of the posters here are probably off duty DEPYUHDEES or Posse members.
To the above Anonymous,
Off duty PD
I'm not an employee of Joe's, nor a police officer. The truth to the matter is, most Joe bashers are law breakers. What is your crime or problem? Illegal or just an illegal lover?
I doubt that you are off duty PD. Most PD from other agencies in AZ view the MCSO as a joke.
Sheriff Joe provides the perfect platform to expose the twisted and biased media for just what it is. KPHO TV is the worst of biased, Phoenix journalism (?). You guys need to leave Joe alone and let him do his dang job. I said dang...geesh...
Sheriff Joe IS the twisted platform.
To Mark Gasser:
"The truth to the matter is, most Joe bashers are law breakers." I don't think that's correct (I think they're most likely informed taxpayers who are getting tired of nonsense from MCSO when they're paying for competent law enforcement). But I'd like to know- where did you get the information about the makeup of that demographic?
Most posters are not bashing Joe, but taking issue with some of his tactics and publicity hounding. Most seem to express a desire of competent law enforcement, not selective enforcement of some laws on some people. That's what the taxpayers are supposed to be paying for. But they are paying out large sums for lawsuits and publicity stunts with dubious results. Meanwhile many grieving families never have their cases solved because they are exceptionally cleared at a rate far above any other law enforcement agency in AZ. This means that the criminal who perpetrated a crime against a loved on is never caught, maybe never sought. This seems to be because officers and detectives are diverted to publicity stunts that will make Joe look tough. It's been pointed out that most citizens want the Best Sheriff, not someone who calls himself the toughest.
You promised, Mark, to read the Goldwater Institute's report. Have you? It will explain a lot of this using documents received from MCSO and some other investigative means as well. There's no intention to "get Joe" in that report, just to explain what is going on using facts and figures.
Many of us love that Joe is protective of animals, and seems to be tough on those who abuse them. But humans are suffering from criminal abusers too, and many never get their day in court. Check it out.
To Anonymous who said,
Most PD think Joe is a joke you say?
I talked to a Pinal County deputy, A sergeant. He said "Joe is good" when I asked him his opinion of Sheriff Joe. No he don't work for Joe nor have anything to do with this county.
What police are you referring to? None that you know I take it. No, you are not a police officer either. Nor do you have any clue what real police think of Joe.
To Anonymous who wrote to Mark Gasser
I started reading it last night. I even became a member to prove to you that I did read it. I used the name unitedmajority to sign in. It is over twenty pages and I am not done with it yet. I will finish it and oh yes I will let you know what I think of it and your oppinions above.
To Anonymous who wrote to Mark Gasser
I have to work at 9 today for a few hours. When I return home I will finish reading your persisted upon report. Don't expect to hear from me about it until this after noon.
It is more than obvious this report you insist on me reading is very right winged. No problem with that. But if I have to read all their views, I think it is more than fare that you read something too.
I am reposting a blog I posted called Prodigal Sun. It is written by Arthur Allen and is written in proper college form. Yes it list all the sources of information. I am reposting it because it is buried in over one hundred blogs that I wrote my self. It is the only blog I posted written by someone other than me and two my brother wrote.
Why do I want you to read this blog? It will more than explain why I support someone like Joe and don't support the Republican party. No I am not a Democrat either. I am for the United Majority of America. Why? As long as we keep cheering for our political party like our favorite sports team, the majority will be powerless against the system that runs both political parties. Divided in half the majority is powerless, But united, the majority is all power. We have the best constitution in the world once we start using it. Yes all this stuff about Joe is about politics. So it is more than fare you read what I want you to see too. No it is not over twenty pages, only a few. I don't think I'm asking to much do you?
Just click on my name and it will take you to my blogs. It will be the first one listed in a couple of minutes. Please then tell all here what you think of this blog titled "Prodigal Sun". As I will do the same for you after reading the report you want me to read. Thanks
Alice Johnston - Phoenix
I turned on the news and saw the great news about the recent investigations of our rouge sheriff! Great coverage KPHO! Keep up the good work!
I think Joe is the bomb.......I wish he ran the Arizona Department of Corrections. The law is the law and if you chose to break it then you should pay what ever way. No frilly, no luxury and they get three hots and a cot with no taxes to pay. If your illegal, go home and make it right or pay the consequences.
To JW Simms
Evan Mecham was derranged. If you think back, he not only told a gathering of Jews that this is a Christian nation and that they should be thankful to live here, but he also put tin foil on the widows of his office because he said that people were listening to his "private" conversations through the windows. He also referred to black babies as "picaninnies," a racist term not used in this country for many, many years. He was too stupid for words.
Now to Arpaio. He is an ego with two legs. He truly believes that anyone who disagrees with him and his agenda and gets in his way is an enemy. He also believes that his enemies must be arrested and put in jail because, well, nobody has the right to oppose him.
He doesn't know or understand the constitution of the United States and doesn't care. It doesn't suit his purposes. The unfortunate thing is that there are enought rednecks in Maricopa county to keep re-electing him.
I did not put myself in harms way as a USAF fighter pilot to defend this country to enable petty tyrants like Arpaio and his minions. It is my earnest hope that right thinking Americans and the federal courts will have the wisdom to get rid of this mistake of American history.
Mark, you're not doing me or anyone but yourself a favor by being informed. It makes no difference to me whatsoever if you don't like the report.
I am apolitical. I just think that people should know what they're talking about. In this society is seems that the loudest voices are from those least informed. People seem to be swayed by hot-button words and emotion rather than reason. And the least informed promote their ideas and notions as fact.
On the other hand- there are so many people worldwide promoting education- I suppose there are some who feel that ignorance isn't getting a fair shake.
To anonymous who wrote Mark,
You say I don't know what I am talking about and you are trying to inform people like me? Why? Because I support Joe? This means I don't know anything and you are the great informer of the majority. My web page titled United Majority of America gets three to four hundred blog vies per week. Not a lot, but I am informing way more people about the truth than you ever will or have.
Yes I am going to finish reading this report. And yes I can shove the words right down the throat of the one who wrote them. But I will reframe from any comments about it, it will prove nothing to anyone, especially you.
But let me inform you of something. You know nothing about my education nor do you even come close to informing the majority like I do. No I don't inform them about right wing views or liberal views, even though most of what I write is political. I inform the majority about the truth neither party would ever talk about. Not the right wing facts that are more often out right lies than the truth. Like the fact they told all America that China was drilling for oil fifty miles off our shores lol. Let me guess, you still believe that to be true. Let me inform you of the real truth. The truth is, no China is not nor ever has drilling for oil fifty miles off our shores like the rights informed all Americans of threw their system ran media. This was a complete lie made up by the rights. In an attempt to get the majority to insist that their bosses get to drill for oil off our shores. You talk about Joe? Why hasn't anyone filed slander suites against these liars who are ran by oil?
Do I listen to the liberals when they say if we don't like the ways of our land that any of us can run for president? No of course not and no, not anyone can successfully run for president in America. It take million to campaign, something the majority of us don't have.
Oh yes I inform people of the truth, not the lies by both political parties. Keep cheering for your favorite political party like you are cheering for your favorite sports team. When America crumbles, you will have only your uninformed self to blame, not me. At least I try to open the eyes of the blind sheep. I know, you can lead a blind sheep to the truth, but you can’t make them swallow it. Still I can sleep at night knowing, at least I tried to change the path this country is headed down. If care to debate any further, click on my name. So you too will know the truth about our political parties. Until then, don’t waste my time with your non backed accusations of me not being educated. I’m not the blind sheep here, you are.
I don't think politics is the answer, Mark- if it were, this blog would have no traffic, nor need to exist.
I am looking forward to you pointing out any factual errors in the Goldwater Report. Please cite your sources if you find any.
And- stop making this about you or me. This is about whether MCSO is doing the best job possible. Read the facts, please- then stick to them.
To anonymous who wants my opinion of that report about Joe.
Sorry I didn't get to it yet. I had to finish my blog titled "God answers Haiti’s prayers" If you click on my name to read the post "Prodigal Sun," it is not the first one listed in my blogs anymore, it is second. God answers Haiti's prayers is the first blog now.
Don't worry, I will get to it, but some things come first in my priorities. I'm going to finish reading it right now OK. Then we can do some debating if you wish.
Mark
Wow! What a difference a year makes! I came back to the valley to get away from the snow this year and low and behold the sheriff is finally being investigated! I just wonder what took so long. Nice job KPHO on reporting this story in a non biased professional manner despite the hecklers on the blogs.
OK so the honest citizens of Arizona and Snowbirds are going to have our streets tied up with illegals wanting more free rights.
Please send them back to Mexico and let them come over LEGALLY!!
Go Sheriff Joe for fighting for our laws
"OK so the honest citizens of Arizona and Snowbirds are going to have our streets tied up with illegals wanting more free rights." Really? How long have you been prophesying?
Did you mean "Joe fighting the laws"? That's what's being investigated- you know? Is the issue of illegal immigration the only thing that matters? What about the families who have lost loved ones to violent crime and the MCSO has "exceptionally cleared" the case? These poor folks will never have closure and there might be murderers out there that aren't being sought by law enforcement, but Joe has plenty of resources to divert to publicity stunts and "reality TV". I guess that's not important though as long as Joe can fool people into thinking he's enforcing the laws on illegal immigration.
No wonder the world is such a mess!!!!
"OK so the honest citizens of Arizona and Snowbirds are going to have our streets tied up with illegals wanting more free rights."
So Joe is the only law enforcer who enforces federal law in Maricopa County? Please, by all means, share with the uninformed populace the comparative number of illegals in Maricopa county deported by MCSO versus those deported by federal law enforcement.
Hey there! I am Mark! I am in love with my but buddy sheriff friend! When I am not kissing ass I attend klan rallies and worship law enforcement officers! I am too stupid to pass the entrance exam for the law enforcement academy so I spend all day here singing the praises of Joe! For my next trick I'll pull an unemployment check out of my ass!
Some guy above wrote:
So Joe is the only law enforcer who enforces federal law in Maricopa County? Please, by all means, share with the uninformed populace the comparative number of illegals in Maricopa county deported by MCSO versus those deported by federal law enforcement.
Actually, the number of illegals deported by MCSO would be, ZERO. ICE and the Feds deport. MCSO merely hands over illegals TO the feds and ICE. A lot of other more capable organizations hand over illegals as well. This is nothing special.
"Actually, the number of illegals deported by MCSO would be, ZERO." Yes, right. However the question remains (I didn't see the need to spell out the whole process, as that is not the point). I hope that the expert above will please favor us with the comparison of the numbers taken into custody by each of these agencies.
The citizenry thanks you.
I have seen Sheriff Joe driver park in a handicap spot leaving a handicap person to walk a distance A note was on the windshield of his vehicle stating that it was a handicapped spot. I personally saw the driver return to the vehicle with Joe remove the note from the windshield and toss it the note on the ground. Doesn't sound like the man believes the law is for him. I respect the law and have never been in any trouble however, I no longer have respect Sheriff Joe.
To, Wally Womper
Professional news lol. It's because of blind sheep like you, our country is in the mess we are. People like you who believe and listen to the system ran media is what keeps us blind and the rest of the world calling us the Dumb Americans. Wake up and fact up. Stop getting your facts from the local news ok.
To anonymous who's last line reads,
No wonder the world is such a mess!!!!
You blame Joe for un solved murders now? You blame Joe for the illegal that shot and killed his deputy in 2007 too? The one he arrested prior and sent back to Mexico who then walked right past the boarder patrol into Phoenix again. Only to commit murder here. Give me a break. No Joe can't solve every murder, but he is preventing hundreds by cleaning out the modern day slaves.
Mark
To anonymous who wrote,
Actually, the number of illegals deported by MCSO would be, ZERO. ICE and the Feds deport. MCSO merely hands over illegals TO the feds and ICE. A lot of other more capable organizations hand over illegals as well. This is nothing special.
OK, name one other sheriff department in this country who's deputies were given Federal law enforcement rights. That number would be ZERO.
Not sure what other agencies you are referring to, ghost busters?
To anonymous who wrote,
Mark GasBag - Unemployment Line said...
Lol, I have never once nor do I ever plan to collect unemployment. You say I go to Klan meetings to lol again. I have no problem with any true native American. Yes that is what I call black in skin color Americans. Why? Because they are the only ones who came to America and couldn't bring their culture with them. Since America began, the true native Americans were forced to do as America dictated, making them more American than any other race here. No I don't call the Native North Americans, Native Americans. That is an insult to red in skin color Americans. These Americans are not native to the country that took their land. They are native to the continent North America. No I am not nor do I plan to ever be a Police Officer. But if Joe needs my help for anything, he will get it for free.
I told you once, go back up the hill you climbed down and spare us all your ignorance.
To anonymous who wrote,
I have seen Sheriff Joe driver park in a handicap spot leaving a handicap person to walk a distance A note was on the windshield of his vehicle stating that it was a handicapped spot.
Let me tell you what you and the note writer should of done, if this is really a real story. From a life lesson of my own.
When a county official from Chilton WI parked in a handicap spot, which my dad had a real right to use because he only had one leg. My dad parked behind that car and called the police. She insited he couldn't do that but he stood firm tell the police arrived. Yes she got a ticket and my dad did not.
Didn't you have the balls to stand up for your right or is this a lie? Why didn't you do the same as my dad would of done? You people who say their rights have been violated have no proof nor do you have the balls to stand up for what is right. Unless you have balls and proof, don't waste our time with your cries.
Is there a line in Vegas as to whether Joe will be convicted? If there is, I hope they are as dumb as the liar officials and KPHO who think they can bust the toughest sheriff in America with no evidence lies. I hope the odds are ten to one for a conviction. I got a thousand to gamble if their is. When I win my ten grand, half is going to Joe, to help him clean out the illegal modern day slaves. Sorry, but I'm against slavery. Glad Joe is too.
If I did bet and I won the real pleasure would still be watching sheriff Joe getting carted off to federal prison. They can keep my winnings. I would donate my winnings to Chicanos Por La Casa.
To anonymous above,
Let me guess, you think the Mexican government is great lol. They are the reason the Mexican majority lives in a third world conditions and the reason illegals come here thinking we owe them and America took their land in an illegal war. NO we didn't take AZ, NM, CA and TX in an illegal war like EVERY illegal believes, thanks to the corrupt Mexican government. Our congress voted to go to war with Mexico, therefore the war was LEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Besides, if America gave these states back to the rightful owners, the illegals would have nothing coming. Mexico took this land from the Native North Americans. So say hello to the biggest reservation is America if we do give the land to the true owners. No America isn't giving nothing back, especially to the corrupt Mexican government. Let me tell you what would happen if America lost it's mind and did give these states to Mexico. They would all be places illegals would be running from and no Americans would step foot in. Most of us won't vacation in Mexico because we are not going to give their corrupt police a chance to kidnap us and hold us for ransom. Wake up ok.
People who are against Joe have no common sense. We are all human, that does'nt mean we have to be thugged into changing the laws when something has been working & enforce ones already in book for humanity. We need to enforce closing boarders..kick a** & take names instead of pussyfooting around, like most wars. american citizens are top when it comes to the right thing to do. Remember, us taxpayers want our freedoms.
"Let me guess, you think the Mexican government is great lol." Then you go on a rant against what you guess.
"People who are against Joe have no common sense." Do you know all the people who are not duped by publicity stunts into thinking he's actually enforcing the law? I would guess that many of them have a great deal of common sense. But I won't rant about it.
Hi Mark Gasser: Did you have time to finish reading all twenty pages of the Goldwater Report? It's been a few days. I would very much like to know if you found factual errors (and the sources of your information that disprove the information it contains). I have seen some posts from you since you started reading it, but am still waiting to see a single provable fact that refutes any part of it.
When someone posits his opinion, but can't back it with as much as one fact, what do you think of that opinion? It doesn't matter how sincerely it is held, or even how vehemently it is stated. It is just empty opinion (arguably, uninformed opinion) unless there are some verifiable facts to back it up. Everyone is entitled to his opinion, of course, but others need not lend it any credence, especially if it is based on assumptions, prejudice, and ignorance. It is up to the person expressing the opinion to disclose his sources.
To those of you who know these elementary facts, I apologize for wasting your time. However, the above evidently needed to be stated for the benefit of those who don't.
To above anonymous,
I had plenty of conversations with illegals. Instead you you saying I'm guessing, why don't you ask an illegal your self about all the FACTS I stated above? Then lets talk ok. I didn't mention the fact that illegals have no problem sleeping with our minor children did I? Yes that is a fact too!!!
I deeply appreciate Sheriff Joe because he does his job. He is paid to enforce the law, all of it. He will never turn a blind eye to the things that are unpopular with people coming here illegally or those that benefit from their presence here. I don't care what their reasons are it is no excuse for violating our laws. Legal citizens have jumped through all the hoops and done the right thing. It is unfair for others to go around the law-abiding to break in line. Sheriff Joe is like the line moniter in the school cafeteria. He is sending the line breakers back to the end of the line . . . their own country! I thank God for Sheriff Joe!
To anonymous who said Hi Mark Gasser,
I have a few things I need to check on before I debate this with you ok? I wanted to talk to my best friend about this in WI. He is a lawyer and he will be able to find the info I am looking for. He is gone ice fishing for the weekend and will be gone tell Tuesday on his fishing trip. The lucky man he is for sure. If you don't have a huge problem with it, can we get together Tuesday after 4PM? You are very educated and demanding that I state my sources. I want to level my self with your knowledge as much as possible. Remember, I never did get to college. But my best friend has and he will be very helpful with the information you ask for and deserve.
How Hi-LAR-ious is Sheriff Joe to play
Linda Ronstadt's musice to the inmates
while she (who is Hispanic) is out
rallying against the Sheriff....LOL LOL LOL
THAT made my WHOLE week-end....
Linda, why aren't you protesting the sending
back of illegals in your OWN county that
is actually CLOSER to the border ???
A little 'too close to home', maybe?
And, God, why would you even make a public
appearance looking as fat as you do?
I'm embarrased FOR you, my dear !
Go back to the old pueblo and start walking
up those mountains....you really DO have
more important things to do with your body !
People who are against Sheriff Joe are
the same people who want everything for
everybody....be it Hispanic, Black or White !
But, one day, when YOUR social security and
YOUR Medicare RUN OUT.....you're going to
WISH you had done things differently...
but if will be too late !
Good Luck with that, idiots of the USA !
Mark, I appreciate your honesty. I am also concerned about your most recent post:
"I had plenty of conversations with illegals. Instead you you saying I'm guessing, why don't you ask an illegal your self about all the FACTS I stated above? Then lets talk ok. I didn't mention the fact that illegals have no problem sleeping with our minor children did I? Yes that is a fact too!!!"
How did you determine the immigration status of the persons about whom you're talking? Did you ask for documents or simply ask them if they're here illegally? Generalizations are always fallacious. Would you agree that most illegal immigrants do not molest children? Can you cite some statistics about the number of such people convicted (or even arrested) for these crimes versus the number of citizens convicted or arrested? If you could do that as a percentage of population or as a rate, such as "2.4 convictions annually per-million of such a group between the ages of 18-80"- or something like that. You will want to cite your sources (such as the FBI). Then we will know you're talking facts and people will have less reason to think that you are xenophobic.
I, for one quite honestly doubt the accuracy of your statement. I think it is very wise for you to consult an attorney though. And I am in full agreement with your envy of your friend who is ice fishing in WI. Talk about relaxation!
I am Hispanic and think of moving to
Texas where alot of my relatives/friends have gone...they like it better than Phoenix..
work less, the same money. Beacuase it
is not such a tourist state, a better
economy. They say people are friendlier to them and more things to do there, too.
To the anonymous directly above,
I know some and I'll even be nice, undocumented immigrants in WI. They told me the people in WI are much kinder and friendlier than the people in Texas. I for sure hope you are never a part of racism, even though many here think I am racist. That is not why I support Joe. I do because he is the only politician I know that stands up to the system that loves and uses undocumented immigrants. I feel sorry for the Mexican majority. It makes me sick how the Mexican government steels their money and makes them live in third world conditions. I hate the systems here that allows and protects the Mexican government. I hate it when our government calls Mexico our best ally. How our government is best friends with them, makes me very angry. I know it will be almost impossible for the Mexican majority to ever change it’s government, as long as our supports and protects the Mexican corrupt government. I know our rich here have way to much money invested in Mexico to ever let a Mexican revolution happen. They love the modern day slaves and will do everything they can to keep them. I call the Mexican majority that because what our rich pay the Mexican majority to work in their factories there, is less than what it would cost to feed, house and supply medical care for a slave in America. Yes the rich there and here get rich from the Mexican majority at the expense of both our majorities. I learned that hate only brings hate. But when it comes to ours and Mexico’s government, it is very hard to follow what I know best and not hate. Good luck with what you do in life, I truly mean that.
to anonymous who wrote Mark,
Please give me sometime to finish writing the answer to your question. It is a long one but the only way I can really answer your questions ok.
I have yet to hear of any specific laws Sheriff Joe has broken, yet I continue to hear about laws he continues to uphold.
It's a litte sad when the news spends this much time reporting on something and people still have no clue what the guy did wrong.
No law-abiding person I know of has any problem with Sheriff Joe, yet all the politicians after him are proven corrupt.
Maybe you guys should just give it up. The voters are smarter than you think.
Well it is a good thing you are not the US attorney who decides to look into these matter. The FEDS don't just go after just anyone because they feel like it. There has to be a very good reason to go after someone. Joe has obviously done something. Take a course in criminal law sometime.
To anonymous who wrote Mark,
I am still writing the answers you wanted. It will also prove to all who think I'm a cop or a paid Joe cheer leader, how wrong they really are. It is three pages so far, but I'm getting there. I can't answer your question without telling the whole story.
Hi Mark,
If you don't have any verifiable facts, and you don't cite your sources of information- you're probably wasting your time. There's no need to waste yours or anyone's time with a lengthy post that just promotes opinion. That's particularly true if the opinion is presented as fact, as has characterized most of your posts.
Can you, for example, tell us how many people were arrested in Maricopa county for immigration-related lawbreaking by the US Border Patrol (CBP), and ICE- versus the number arrested for the same violations by MCSO?
I am perplexed: In "one breath" you express human rights concerns for the abuses by the rich ruling class of those who emigrate here illegally, then you forcefully assert that these foreigners are child abusers and perverts. Excuse my paraphrase.
You have posted both of these ideas multiple times without attribution to any reliable source that can be verified. So are you concerned about their human rights, or do you think that most of these people from Mexico are evil?
Nobody who is well informed, of course, would argue that there's not a great deal of smuggling of humans and drugs and other harmful stuff coming from the south. These items have been widely reported by reputable news outlets. But your posts leave one to wonder about your point of view regarding the ones who are not smuggling bad stuff, who provably make up the majority of those entering the US illegally.
Of course, this is a little off the subject of MCSO being investigated for corruption and various abuses of their authority, as well as tax dollars wasted on a variety of publicity stunts and civil suits lost by the Sheriff's Office, nor the huge increase in the cost of liability insurance incurred as a result of such.
I am not a resident of Maricopa County, but as of now, I truly support Sheriff Joe.
These protests are without merit, they are based only on emotions and set what I consider a good example for criminal treatment. Criminals are criminals and do not deserve to be coddled. Criminals deserve punishment. Criminals deserve to fear recidivism.
Regarding the above: "So are you concerned about their human rights, or do you think that most of these people from Mexico are evil?"
Another possibility is that he thinks all Mexicans are evil but the rich are violating their rights (maybe including their right to be evil in the US). The part in parentheses is sarcasm so don't get all worked up about it.
To the anonymous who wrote Mark
It's done!
It's over six pages and I did try to post it here but it is to big. If you want to read it, you are going to have to click on my name. I will put it in my blogs. Before I do, I want to read it over because now my normal readers are going to see it too. My wife is making me paint something. It won't take me long and then it will be in my blogs. Give me an hour ok?
To anonymous, Who wrote Mark,
The facts I'm talk about are children half white half illegal. Do want birth certificates for your facts or should I see if I can put the pictures on here? How many thousands would you like? Yes children who had children by fathers here illegally.
"The facts I'm talk about are children half white half illegal." And those "facts" prove what, exactly- that crossing the border does not render a person sterile? Seriously- what do mixed-race children prove in your mind?
I attempted to read your blog. Some of it is white text on a white background (part of a photo), and so is illegible. I hope you didn't need me to point that out. Part of it requires registration, so that's out of the question- but the parts I could get to and read are not too compelling. I am not fascinated by: "Who I'd like to meet:
All the people as a huge majority." Notwithstanding the utter meaninglessness of that- meeting all the people on earth would take a very long time. But if it kept you from trying to make a living as a writer- maybe it's worth a shot. You could at least get into some record book written by someone else.
"All good books are great in my oppinion. If they are a book about good, how can they not be a good book?" REALLY? Is this an attempt at humor in the vein of "Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey"? I am worried that it isn't.
I am not trying to be mean. A kind person will tell you when your fly's open. Others will only stare and stifle their laughter, leaving you to wonder whether your wit is quite compelling when you haven't actually said anything.
By the way- there's no such thing as a person who is half illegal. Maybe we should make an exception....
I have worked in detention for 12 years and I've yet to hear anything stated specifially as to what the Sheriff's done to violate rights. Segragation is a tool used in detention to keep people safe. Some detainees are illigal alien haters. Some are race haters. You have to keep them apart! If I was a detained illegal and didn't speak English, I would certainly feel safer if I was with people of my own origin. Wouldn't you?
Well, I'm glad they gave you a job in detention. When will you be eligible to re-join society?
Anonymous said
Iam glad that the Sheriff is defending all of us here in the Great United States of America the Land of Freedom. I think if hispanics speak english and that are hear legally then great. But the ones that are not here, and shouldn't be here need to leave. And Joe is helping it along. I think we are all prejudiced in some form or fashion. we might hate gay people, we might hate the opposite sex as a boss, that is being prejudiced. Look at this way if there is a hispanic person and he hits you and or kills your passenger, he is not here legally so he just gets sent back to mexico or wherever they are from. What about your families, that hipanic is not going to pay for killing anyone there will not get nothing. Think about this to if a African American hits someone or even a white person we go to jail. What does this illegal get? NOTHING!!!!!!!!! I have seen so many accidents involving Caucasions, African Americans, Cambodians, Asians and that is the same punishment. But they dont get crap. Now what race am i? I have talked about all colors and some different racies. I can tell you i am not hispanic. This is the land of freedom, we all have different countries or cities that we are from. We are all human beings, but these hispanics are coming over here to America. We have the Armed Forces fighting for our freedom, not to send people over here to take our jobs away and food off of our families mouths. Time is hard right now with the economy as it is, Everyone here that is not here Legally are working cheaper and we get laid off or fired because companies are hiring them because they work for cheaper wages. Lets look at the big picture, you know what i mean. I am not a cop, i am not political, I am not in any law enforcement agency, But I do believe in Joe. I moved here only 2 years ago. but Sheriff Joe represents everyone, he is obviously doing something right. He takes alot of crap from alot of people he stands his ground, he has told us what he is going to do and does it. Not alot of politicians do that. Do you see anyone doing anything about illegals??? No I think not. I Joe for one is thankful you are standing up and saying enough is enough and for standing out and speaking out. Which is what we all want to say, but we dont have the courage to say it. Also, to take you out of suspense I am a white female.
Joe's supporter has one thing in common (no, there are no misspellings, though it appears so). Poor grammer and spelling. Like that and this.
This leads some to believe that was his supporter more literate, his opinion might be different. He'd be able to read reports, and learn facts, and reason, and think critically. But he sure seems to have lots of time on his hands.
Joe's supporter might want to research why the electoral college was created.
To the perfect moron who says,
Joe's supporter might want to research why the electoral college was created.
Why? Because the majority didn't even have a phone in the 1700's, that's why. We do now and we have the internet.
No we don't need the wasted money to pay for the electoral college that does not do as the majority votes.
Thanks for proving your true colors and the fact you work for the money ran syste.
Way to go JOE
No we don't need any workers from Mexico. The number of Americans without jobs is higher than the number of Americans without jobs during the last great depression. Why would we want legal immigrants from Mexico when we don't have enough jobs for the Americans citizens in this country?
Other than the third world workers from Mexico, the only ones who want the modern day slaves to come here is the rich who don't want to pay a fare wage. No American can compete with the wages these immigrants are willing to work for. Why? Because most Americans don't have twenty of their friends and distant family members living in one three bed room house, that's why. STOP all immigrant workers legal or not, is what Washington should be doing. But until the majority takes control of our rich controlled government, we will have legal and allowed illegal immigration. If Washington allows immigration to continue here, when there is not enough work here for Americans, maybe then the majority will realize who really runs this country.
This is America and the American’s country, not Mexico’s or the Mexicans that come here expecting free food, medical care and housing. No, they have no rights or nothing coming.
TO ALL OF MEXICO’S MAJORITY
Stay home and fix your corrupt government. WE DON’T WANT OR NEED YOU!!!!
To anonymous who said,
To the perfect moron who says,
Lol, you couldn't of said it better, except for the spelling. No problem, you are not the perfect moron here. For sure I agree with YOU.
That same electoral college voted Bush in against the majorities wishes and votes. They are the reason thousands of Americans are dying in Bush's wars. Don't get me wrong, I support every American soldier that has to fight these wars the electoral college allowed. Why don't these cowards from the electoral college go on the front lines? Because they are rich cowards who expect what they refer to as expendable majority to fight the wars. No life is expendable in my eyes. But in the systems eye's, money for the war toy makers is far more important than human life.
Thank you for having open eyes.
"the fact you work for the money ran syste[m]." Really? It was a question and proves nothing other than that I wanted an answer. This really makes all your other "facts" quite suspect. If you knew me, you'd know you just made quite fools of yourselves. But as evidenced by the way you've handled yourself here, I don't think that would matter.
Just because someone knows how to use grammar and form a complete sentence makes them the enemy- is that what you want people to think?
Guess which of your heroes was (and maybe still is) in the electoral college? Yes, Joe Arpaio.
Why don't you find out about that then get back to those of us who are informed. During Bush v Gore he used to brag about it- so have a nice day!
To anonymous above,
At least their is one honest member of the electoral college, Joe. If Joe did vote for Bush it is because that is who the majority of Arizonians voted for. Check on that and get back to me.
To anonymous who wrote,
"the fact you work for the money ran syste[m]." Really? It was a question and proves nothing other than that I wanted an answer. This really makes all your other "facts" quite suspect. If you knew me, you'd know you just made quite fools of yourselves. But as evidenced by the way you've handled yourself here, I don't think that would matter.
If I knew you lol, Mr. anonymous lol again. It is you and your facts that are suspect, not mine.
Evidence from Goldwater Institute
Here is some evidence of the American invasion by Mexico. This is why Joe is against building a four hundred million dollar unneeded new court house. Yes his departments needs and should receive more money to fight this invasion.
Goldwater Institute says,
When two Phoenix police officers stopped a man and two women for jay walking in September 2007, a confrontation ensued and Officer Nick Erfle was shot and killed. Erfle was 33 years old, the father of two young children, and had just overcome a battle with cancer. The man suspected of killing him, Erik Martinez, was an illegal immigrant who had previously been deported. Notably, he was the subject of an outstanding felony warrant for aggravated assault.
Can you Joe bashers understand why Joe arrests and deports any illegal he can? If only the Federal government would keep it’s end of the bargain up and stop the illegals that freely walk across our boarders. You go Joe, save as many lives as you can, even though you can’t save them all.
May God bless Officer Nick Erfle and his family. And give Joe the power and money it will take to stop this invasion.
So you didn't find one factual error in the report? Thanks for making my point over and over again and exposing your motivations, ignorance and utter disregard for truth. It seems that my work here is done.
Ya' know- when you protest over and over that you don't work for Joe- we believe you. Agree or disagree with him and his policies- he's not stupid. He tends to surround himself with literate people. Some are even, dare I say, articulate.
Officer Erfle shouldn't have been killed- and it is a crime and sad for his family. Joe didn't stop it from happening. Maybe he was on a fake sting with a bunch of TV cameras. The suspect should not have been here, and illegal immigration is wrong no matter what the circumstances. But Joe's supporters have served up that red herring too many times.
Since they don't have anything to hand their hats on other than immigration (which isn't a county Sheriff's primarily responsibility)- they have to keep going back to that. What about the other laws he's not enforcing while he's promoting his image in the limelight?
None of his supporters have proved he's doing anywhere near his whole job, and the people who've done studious research have been attacked for exposing the truth. Someone used the term "xenophobic". That seems to accurately describe his one-note Johnny supporters to a tee!
Goldwater report also says this (but it was ignored by Joe's pom-pom squad): "Although MCSO is adept at self-promotion
and is an unquestionably “tough” law-enforcement agency, under its watch violent crime rates recently have soared,
both in absolute terms and relative to other jurisdictions. It has diverted resources away from basic law-enforcement
functions to highly publicized immigration sweeps, which are ineffective in policing illegal immigration and in
reducing crime generally, and to extensive trips by MCSO offi cials to Honduras for purposes that are nebulous at
best."
So RESEARCH shows that his antics are costing lives, and failing to stem the rising crime rate!
Sheriff Joe and News Channel 5 are the best!!!
To Sheriff Joe keep up the work that we the people voted you to do!! Your the best!!
SHeriff Joe is getting a bad rap. If your child was abducted tomorrow by alien and there was evidence proving who did it (video) (eyewitness) the alien could never be identified because they do not exist in US. They are like ghost, fake id and not a registed citizen, same problem when they rear end your car or whatever. They wont be accountable because they dont exist, other than the fake SS# they have which is probably yours they stole earlier on.
We "the voters" have spoken. We voted for him by a landslide!! Keep up the fantastic job Sheriff Joe!! WE LOVE YOU!! Get over it!
Only retards like you voted for him. I didn't.
some of these posts are a riot ... Channel 5 is biased ... the tribune is biased .... the judges are biased .... the federal government is biased ...matter of fact ....ALL the news media is biased because they report the real news .....NOT THE SPIN NEWS THAT COMES OUT OF JOEY`S AND ANDYS CAMPS ......the most comical thing is that quite a bit of the reported news comes right out of the sheriff`s office because of FREEDOM OF INFROMATION LAWS .....
I believe it is YOU who is biased. No matter what foul thing the sheriff does you support him. You must be on his payroll. Whatever he is paying you it is too much, idiot.
THERE'S ALOT OF PEOPLE AGAINST JOE THAT JUST DON'T GET IT. THERE REASONING IS ASS BACKWARDS, FOR THE ILLEGALS, WHICH ARE TERRRORISTS, CRIMINALS, SO DO SOME HOME WORK & FIND THE TRUTH.
He seems to be the only person strong enough to take a stand at trying to keep the messed up judicial systyem in tact. If he ran for President he would get my vote.
SHERIFF JOE IS AWESOME!!!
I think there should be a Sheriff Joe Arpio in every county in every state in the U. S. and 10 Sheriff Joe Arpio's in Washington DC and an untold amount Joe Arpio's to keep Congress, the Senate and the President and his people in line. Maybe Joe Arpio should run for president of the U.S. Barbara
My parents are immigrants and they came to this country to raise us and give us a better opportunity to life so I can to make a different in life, just like all American do, this country was built on immigrant who worked hard to make a new country for themselves and it was called America so who the f is Joe to put people in jail for a minor traffic violation these are simple people who are staying here in America to have better life and grow this nation to become bigger in the future and can stand and make different in world powers. I'm not for violent but don't arrest innocent people just because they don't have papers.
Everyone seems to be glued to the deeds and MISdeeds of MR Arpaio .... DON`T forget his cohart Andrew Thomas... Both of these two men are masters of BAIT AND SWITCH tacitcs ..there has been news about Thomas that will bring chills up and down your spine ... he has been ordered to a Yavaipe county courtroom to explain his actions ...which he is trying to get out of ... Even has te nerve of trying to get testimony from the Yavapie county prosecuter barred .....Bet your boots his siamese twin and has something to do with it ..... before it is all over ARPAIO should be compelled to explain himself in Yavapie court too The man is just as deeply in the whole mess
I think Sheriff Joe should get a medal for trying to sweep up the illegal aliens in Arizona and deport them back where they came from. They are partially responsibile for the state being broke. Now all we need is the wall along the border we were promised by the feds to keep them from coming back and trying to shoot him and the rest of our police officiers. GOD BLESS SHERIFF JOE
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