The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors voted to give its lawyers permission Monday to sue the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office over the purchase of a $456,000 inmate transport bus purchased with money from the Jail Enhancement Fund.
The bus was originally purchased in October 2008; the supervisors have since refused to title it because they had questions about the purchase.
In other news, Judge Gary Donahoe has stepped aside from his position as presiding judge over the criminal courts system three months early, possibly to make way for a lawsuit against Sheriff Joe Arpaio and County Attorney Andrew Thomas alleging malicious prosecution.
The bus was originally purchased in October 2008; the supervisors have since refused to title it because they had questions about the purchase.
In other news, Judge Gary Donahoe has stepped aside from his position as presiding judge over the criminal courts system three months early, possibly to make way for a lawsuit against Sheriff Joe Arpaio and County Attorney Andrew Thomas alleging malicious prosecution.
Labels: board of supervisors, gary donahoe, inmate transport bus, lawsuit
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Sure looks & sounds like progressives will do anything to stop Joe from doing his job, connect the dots, all in the name of criminals{illegals} & our corrupt Capitol Hill! Agenda=abuse of power from the thugs running our country from Washington.
Our polititions need to also put in that healthcare lawsuit no to amnesty, let Joe do his job!
If you cannot stay with the topic that is being discussed here STAY OFF ..... YOU NARROW MINDS LIKE TO TWIST EVERYTHING TO THE ILLEGAL ALIEN ISSUE .. LIKE IT OR NOT ...ALL YOUR FOAMING AT THE MOUTH .............. JOEY AND ANDY ARE GOING DOWN IN FLAMES FOR CORRUPTION AND ABUSE OF POWER ... THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ALIENS ..........
The progressives this the progressives that. You're an idiot. Anyone who would follow a monster like Joe Arpaio is an idiot. For the record I am a conservative.
Bye Bye Joe,
So you're defining anyone who wants MCSO to do their whole job of enforcing the law, and not abuse their authority. Well, you have a point- that would be progress!
I'm a big fan. He gets results, he does his job.
Even when under pressure from the FBI (who had no business being here), he still did his job.
I am a fan of Law Enforcement officials who do a good job. Arpaio is not a good law officer and he does a terrible job. He is a politician. As far as the last guys comment about the FBI having no business being here, that is a dumb comment. We live in the United states. The FBI, FEDERAL BUREAU of INVESTIGATION has a right to investigate anywhere within the United States you little hicklet! People like you make me ashamed to call myself an Arizonan.
BYE BYE JOEY AND TOMMY you will not be missed ... Sadly Andrew Thomas had a promising future BUT he got involved with a ONE time good sheriff that let POLITICAL POWER GO TO HIS HEAD AND NOW IS TAKING AN ATTORNEY DOWN WITH HIM ............
I don't care what your political background is/ was, you are all ignorant to what's going on around you! You don't understand & see the connections with political corruption, & where it takes you, so stay ignorant. Big government will take you down because they have no morals, respect for the rights of the american citizen. Joe definitely has respect to do his job for the az. citizen!
I don't know why everyone is so upset by Joe Arpaio. Don't we want a law enforcement agent who enforces the law? He is popular because he does what is right not what is "politically correct". People should not be upset if they break laws and get caught for breaking them. Leave the emotion at the door. Do the right things in life and you will reap the rewards. Do the wrong things and you suffer the consequences.
We learn though our struggles and challenges to become better people. If people want to immigrate without proper documentation, they know the risk they are taking and they know what they are doing is wrong. We should not change laws just because a lot of people were breaking that law. If enough people rob a bank should we say that it is no longer illegal, even if the bank robber really needs the money? Such selfish actions hurt not only the person who is doing something wrong by compromising their integrity, but also hurt all those who have a stake in the bank or in the case with illegal immigration, taxpayers.
It is very weak to call someone a racist just because he enforces laws. One can truly understand the benefits of diversity and respect other cultures without having to compromise our national set of laws. Legal immigration is the answer my friends! It is unfair to every person who immigrated to this country legally to give illegal immigrants the same rights for knowingly trying to take advantage of the system.
Tuesday, March 30, 2010
Supes Vote To Sue Over $456K Bus; Donahoe Steps Aside.
This is the issue at hand Liz, please stay with the issue. You are really beginning to disappoint me.
Maricopa County filed a lawsuit Tuesday asking a judge to void the sheriff's office's purchase of a $456,000 bus that was supposed to transport jail inmates but hasn't been used because of a dispute over whether the transaction was legal.
County officials say they wouldn't let the bus get titled and insured because the project wasn't put out for competitive bidding.
The sheriff's office defends the purchase, saying only Sheriff Joe Arpaio has the power to spend the special jail funds used to buy the bus and that his office followed the rules on buying equipment.
Tuesday's lawsuit was filed against the company that sold the bus, Motor Coach Industries of Schaumburg, Ill.
A call to the company wasn't immediately returned Tuesday afternoon.
: This article is too funny for words. What a joke, our! county board of supervisor's caring whether a transaction is legal or not? I sure hope the county criminals followed all the rules to the letter of the law! when they purchased a $340,000,000. court house, but me and Joe and Andy doubt it. Also I hope that the F.B.I is going over the paper work on that deal with a fine tooth comb. J.W. Simms.
Im a legal immigrant to this country and I'll be honest and say how shocked I am at how many law suits happen. No wonder the State is broke the only people laughing here are the lawyers. I think Sheriff Joe should be left alone to do his job. I'm sure a law suit is going to cost more than the bus that transports criminals.
JW Simms, they can't license Joke's tour bus, because it wasn't bought LEGALLY! There are LAWS on ho government agencies buy stuff!
What part of ILLEGAL doesn't a 50 year old insurance agent not understand? Or are you just really lost since your wife left you for a horse?
Bottom line, it's all about securing the boarders, which is not in this governments agenda. It is not about Joe & the job he does. It has to do with the funds he needs to do his job, & again by the agenda from Washington against securing the boarder, will abuse their power, as thugs will do anything for this no sense agenda.
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jw simms, you poor lost Little boy. The county did an investigation, and the purchase violated both the state and county procurement rules - illegal, in other words.....
Read the law suit, as the PDF is on the home of your 20 logins, and the ARS items violated by MCSO are clearly called out!
What, did you find out your x-wife is now going as "Mrs Ed", in honor of her new lover, "Mr Ed"?
Dang, I bet your insurance business is really failing these days, as you blog on the other place all day, every day! What will you do when you can't make the payments on your trailer?
I love people who say things at the end of their post like "by the way I'm a consevative." NOT!!!!!!
You go Joe ! Keep on enforcing the law.
I love morons that say stuff like "You go Joe ! Keep on enforcing the law.", as they are too lost to see that MCSO is the worst in enforcing the laws against illegals when it comes to valley law enforcemnet. MCSO only busts 10% of the illegals in their own jails. And the medica stunts they hold are crazy expensive with low restults!
Did JW Simms teach you to be so stupid, or were you dropped on your head a number of times?
So Simms now fakes Liz' handle March 30, 2010 7:45 PM then criticizes his own post as me by faking my handle March 30, 2010 7:52 PM. Looks like Joe and Andy are about to be sued by Judge Donahoe (and it appears that he has an excellent case). Maybe Simms should start his own board and argue with himself ad infinitum there. He can use any handles he wants there.
Pretending to be someone else and mis-representing their views as your own is a desperate tactic. It is bound to backfire.
Posted by the real and original Lawn Order.
Liars and fakes are always exposed in the end. Apraio is being exposed for what he is. A Fake and a bigot. Hendeschott is being exposed for what he is. A paranoid psycho. Thank god the Justice Department is about to remove these clowns.
It's interesting that you put it that way: "Liars and fakes are always exposed in the end." There is some truth to that, and I find it interesting in a sad way that his adherents are trying the same tactics, even pretending to post as others. It seems like lots of different government organizations interested in upholding a number of laws are investigating that whole gang and the individuals in it.
Posted by the real and original Lawn Order.
Simms- why can't you make a relevant point about the issues? You seem to have a need to resort to utterly profane name calling. Do you realize that public obscenity is illegal in every jurisdiction? This is a public forum.
I know that you can control yourself if you really want to. Would you try? I, for one, will read your posts if you do, even though I am unlikely to agree. But nobody needs to see filth. I don't agree with many of Arpaio's policies and his tactics, but even Joe took the porn out of the jails he runs (which I think is a good policy).
Most of those who read these are probably adults, but young kids can see this stuff too. There's no need to subject them (or really anyone) to that sort of thing.
Posted by the real and original Lawn Order.
The only thing the kids need to hear is that our country is in disaster thanks to corrupt Washington, having no business settiing up Joe for their corrupt agenda.
Right ....Obama telling Joe off ? That's a laugh !
Obama is taking this country down and all you young people will be
reaping the effect of it in (yours) years to come...
No Social Security for YOU....No Medicare for YOU. MORE TAXES coming
out of your work checks?
WHY ? Because YOU voted for Him !
And if Obama and Napolitano don't let Sheriff Joe stay in office...
more Arizonans will get killed...just like that Douglas rancher was
killed yesterday on his own property.
WAKE UP PEOPLE ! This is YOUR LIFE, you're voting on ...
VOTE for the people who want to secure your borders and keep YOU
safe...VOTE for less taxes so you can spend more on YOURSELVES..
VOTE for the less FEDERAL govt...so YOU can decide what to do with
YOUR OWN MONIES..
VOTE REPUBLICAN ...
Right on ! Pres Obama just committed 1.15 BILLION dollars to Haiti?
When, for the first time in history - Social Security will be paying
out MORE than taking In.
You All DO know your arithmetic, right?
LESS money for you....
That's the DemocRAT way....Give it ALL away !
Whatever Apraio is paying you to post here is too much. You're a retard!
Wow, Simms looks like that wife comment is spreading around and it seems like you are not taking it too well. Sorry to let you in on this, but if you break the law, you do eventually pay the piper, no matter who you are. So, we will be seeing Joe down the road here soon. Have fun with Mr Ed, I am sure he is givving the ex a little more than you could.
Paul
You're calling ME a retard ? you can't even spell Joe's last
name correctly in print !
you're calling ME a retard because I didn't vote for OBAMA, who is
going to ruin this country...
I think you had better turn the light on ( that would be upstairs
in your head, if there is a brain in there)...
If you LIKE paying more TAXES, and like giving it away to illegals,
and LIKE having no security when you're older....then GOODIE for you-
because that is WHAT is going to happen to all of you if you don't
wake up and smell the democRAT that is in the oval office right now !
RATS like to take your money and give it TO OTHER PEOPLE ....
and you have the nerve to call ME a retard !
These young people and liberals will wake up one day and
say 'what country is this, again?'
you will have no money for steak, vacations, tickets to sporting events
or concerts, extended cable, a new computer, a nicer car (or even a car), any sport unless it's kick the can....and yet, you will be
living in the most powerful country in the world..
but why did the baby boomer gen and previous gens have it all...
before you? Because they made it .... and got to keep it...with
republican presidents !
So, you want to 'just get by' ? Keep voting DemocRAT ! and
that's what you're going to get ! Your hard-earned dollar is
going to Carlos and Lupe who just snuck over the border !
Enjoy LIFE, my retarded Democrats....just not the GOOD life !
So if you instill enough fear in the populace you can get them to act against their own interests and freedoms- right. Make sure you call those with whom you have policy disagreements filthy names, and insult their integrity. Do that often, and people might eventually believe that no right-minded person could disagree with your position.
Just one problem- where are the solutions. No, getting rid of someone you don't like is not a solution. What would you propose actually doing. And kindly don't insult us by confusing motion with action.
The issue is that some county law enforcement politicians have abused their office. They are going to have to deal with the consequences. When they do, the taxpayers will get a break from paying exorbitant legal fees, and damage awards. They will also get the quality of law enforcement that they expect, and some have been fooled into thinking that is being delivered.
I know most of you Arpaio supporters like to avoid discussing the facts, since you understandably can't defend him. However, please tell us what evidence you have that he is not guilty (Thomas, Hendershott too) of the charges. Fear mongering won't cut it in court.
Only an idiot would support Joe Apraio. You have to be the kind of person who is willing to believe anything.
Sorry for the re-post, but my question mark key was underused previously: So here's the correct post:
So if you instill enough fear in the populace you can get them to act against their own interests and freedoms- right? Make sure you call those with whom you have policy disagreements filthy names, and insult their intelligence, and integrity. Do that often, and people might eventually believe that no right-minded person could disagree with your position.
Just one problem- where are the solutions? No, getting rid of someone you don't like is not a solution. What would you propose actually doing? And kindly don't insult us by confusing motion with action.
The issue is that some county law enforcement politicians have abused their office. They are going to have to deal with the consequences. When they do, the taxpayers will get a break from paying exorbitant legal fees, and damage awards. They will also get the quality of law enforcement that they expect, and some have been fooled into thinking that is being delivered.
I know most of you Arpaio supporters like to avoid discussing the facts, since you understandably can't defend him. However, please tell us what evidence you have that he is not guilty (Thomas, Hendershott too) of the charges. Fear mongering won't cut it in court.
Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle.
Try looking into the larger scheme of what's really going on called reality. If you cant't do that it's a lost cause & opinion.
Where is my buddy JW Simms tonight? Trying to get Mr Ed to let him have his wife back, or selling his body in a male strip clue so he can pay the rent on his trailer for April?
We know he's not getting new people to buy insurance from him...
Some professorial analyst wrote: "Try looking into the larger scheme of what's really going on called reality. If you can't do that it's a lost cause & opinion."
Oh- nobody had thought of looking at reality. (Are you serious?) We've seen all too much opinion nonsense and propaganda that isn't supported by anything except easily disproved press releases from dishonest politicians. Arpaio's actions can be easily proved. He's in law enforcement so there are some records, even though by MCSO's admission, they are not what they should be.
Posted by the authentic and original Lawn Order.
WOW!! whats up with that?
i wish he move to califronia and try stoping any one who looks hispanic,
One person wanted to know my proposals for this country?
Get rid of Janet Napolitano ( who couldn't control her own state borders )
Get rid of Obama who never ran anything in his life prior...
Keep re-electing Sheriff Joe to keep illegals and criminals out of here.
Stop giving billions of dollars to other countries when our own
country needs it.
Stop using credit cards, airlines, computer-related companies, etc who use people in other countries for customer service - and let's
BRING THOSE JOBS BACK HERE ! btw, your prez clinton started that program...
get the senators and representatives to have to take the health care
bill and every OTHER thing that they propose for US to take !
is that enough for you, yet ? or should I continue?
and btw, someone before me used the word 'retard' FIRST !
I am a Latina and getting very bad vibes in Phoenix now. Besides,
the economy being bad, less jobs,food prices are to hi, and we mite have
too move too Mexico where it is more beautiful than hear anyway.
I don't blame the Sheriff for doing his job. I wish there were people
like him in Mexico.
When did Democrats start using the 'we don't want to live in fear'
mantra to defend themselves?
Are they that ignorant or have they forgot that 3,000 Americans
were killed on their OWN soil?
I don't understand how you cannot live in fear when people are
training right NOW to take US DOWN !
PLEASE stop using that overdone ubiquitous mantra already.
And not only should you be afraid of Al Queda, you should be
afraid of Obama, Pelosi and Reid.
Be Afraid, My Fellow Americans - Be VERY Afraid !
American ends in 'I can'
Republican ends in 'I can'
Democrat ends in 'rat'
something to think about.
American ends in 'I can'
Republican ends in 'I can'
Democrat ends in 'rat'
Take Arpaio off your front page website. I am sick and tired of seeing that same article asking what we think. It needs to go and so does he!!
EYE-DEE-TEN-TEE Joe supporters.
"One person wanted to know my proposals..." Yup and you don't have anything- just get rid of people whom you don't like. I didn't see a single policy in your response. I am not surprised.
It's so easy to say how everyone else is wrong, but you don't have a clue how to do what's right. If putting different warm bodies in those seats made a difference, things would already be better. Unfortunately thoughtful people have to come up with working policies and implement them. You have eliminated yourself from the list of those who could do that. Evidently you didn't even understand the question.
And you forgot eliminate Joe and his cronies.
Posted by the authentic and original Lawn Order.
Anonymous said...
Wow, Simms looks like that wife comment is spreading around and it seems like you are not taking it too well. Sorry to let you in on this, but if you break the law, you do eventually pay the piper, no matter who you are. So, we will be seeing Joe down the road here soon. Have fun with Mr Ed, I am sure he is givving the ex a little more than you could.
Paul
March 31, 2010 11:51 AM
:Well Paul, let me ask you, how's the Military doing with "don't ask don't tell" I'm sure someone of your sexual persuasion is keeping tabs on that. J.W. Simms.
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I can't believe people are naive about the whole polititical B.S. Start by knowing your past & current events of our government, which seems to lead you to believe in bashing our sheriff. We need more people like Joe to uphold the laws, not the polititions that are abusing their powers on capitol hill. Are people that blind on how the United States is being collapsed for no-sense agenda? Not enough of you are hurting yet! citizens need to be responsible for their life, not the government!
I was born and raised in Arizona. I now live somewhere else. Sheriff Joe is a joke. He is a posterchild for redneck dumbasses who have taken over the policing duties of that state. His department has cost you people so much money it isn't even funny. His deputies have trampled your basic civil rights (a cop going through a defense attorney's papers IN COURT and making copies to give to his superiors........come on folks!!) It is no wonder that your state government is going broke, and has no credible plan to stop it, except to wait and hope the tourist dollars will start to roll in again when the economy picks back up. I'm sorry, rational people don't want to come to a place where the cops are sueing the rest of the county government just to deflect attention from the corruption in it's own house. I am eagerly awaiting the day when I see Joe on television in cuffs being escorted to a federal courtroom by some U.S marshalls to answer to the people for all of the money he has stolen, misappropriated, or given stashed in some secret account somewhere. It's there folks.......follow the money. Put his big fat ass in a tent down there for a few summers wearing pink undies!
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Unfortunately all you anti Joe supporters don't see the whole picture, since this administration has taken control & abusing our system & all of this fabrication comming out of Washington to seal their corrupt deal thugging people like Joe, that does not agree with amnesty, & their corrupt ways, control, abuse of power, they really don't care about the average citizen & what they need & want. They're interests are me, myself, & I, they need to be in jail & throw away the keys
Someone keeps posting as me. It really shows their utter desperation. They have no facts with which to defend the Arpaio regime so they try to dupe others using stolen credibility. The latest incident was tagged April 1, 2010 7:58 PM.
I am going to call you on this every time I find an instance of it. If you can't defend Arpaio's policies- why not just be honest and say so, instead of dishonestly posting as me?
Posted by the authentic and original Lawn Order.
The reality for some people are only listening to lies brought on by the media which is controlled by your leaders in Washington, when you decide to hear & see the truth, you might be wakening up to reality. The gov. wants to do everything in their power for control of their disasterous agenda, which includes Joe. Some people can't put two & two together, it's called ignorance & wisen up to the fabrication & reasons why we have dictators from corrupt Washington, they are corrupting themselves out of a job, more people are realizing what's realy going on.
REALLY!
Ignoring your lack of command of the English language: "when you decide to hear & see the truth, you might be wakening up to reality." Kindly inform us where we can go to "hear & see the truth". What newspaper, radio program, or TV program presents what you refer-to as the "truth"?
You do realize that MCSO's information is part of the public record. You do realize that Joe Arpaio chooses to go on the local media and give interviews to them and the local papers- don't you? In so doing, are you accusing him of promoting bad news outlets?
Posted by the authentic and original Lawn Order.
People need to focus on the main problems stemming from the crimminals in Washington, otherwise your being sucked into the lack of what is, Washington/ controlling news medias will lead you to beleive. You do realize that Joe is right up front, does his job, that is one thing the gov. does'nt like. We have crimminals in Washington & need to focus on to protecting our boarders. Try to focus on the real problems, which are lies from your administration. They don't want you to focus on them, because if you did you just might understand why the big issue is not Joe.
Simms, is that the best you can come up with? I have lost faith in you Mr. Simms. I was waiting for some rant about Joe's kindness to stray dogs or your inability to get Mr Ed off your Ex, but this is weak. Well, anyway, you are losing your edge Mr. Simms and losing the battle for Maricopa County. Are you aware that Thomas is leaving? This is Bad news for your fat friend, really bad news. Seems like the crew just jumped off the ship. Have fun and sell some insurance will ya.
Paul
You guys thought little Bush was bad?
You ain't seen nothing yet - Obama, Pelosi, Reid and the rest of
the new 'hole in the wall' gang
are going to
strip all of you of your HARD earned money, by paying
more taxes to now pay for OBAMA care-
strip all of you of your Social Security that you pay into every check-
strip all of you of Medicare when you're too old to work
strip all of you of everything that we ever knew as American !
Washington has become the NEW 'wild wild West'....
and you'll all be CRYING for a Sheriff Joe in Washington before
Obama's term is out.
What has Obama done to find you a job ?
What has Obama done to keep gas prices down?
What has Obama done to keep food prices down?
What has Obama done to secure Arizona's borders?
What has Obama done for YOU ?
Nothing - but he has bailed out everyone, won a Peace Prize (because
he was a good listener?), is building a basketball court in
the white house, and lied about drilling when he was stumping for
the oval office.
typical politician from Illinois - ME, ME, ME. LIEs LIEs, LIEs !
John McCain would've kept your taxes low and made sure YOU DIDNT
PAY for JUAN and LUPE"S and their 8 childrens' health insurance !
Wise up America - this is YOUR life !
Just posting here to say that the post by the fake Liz F North Phoenix, followed by a post from the fake Lawn Order followed by a post from Simms aka Stomper on 3/30 seems to lend support to the Real Lawn Orders guess that Simms aka Stomper is the imposter Liz F and imposter Lawn Order. This is the only post I have made on this thread.
The Real Liz F
I believe Thomas is stepping down to do bigger & better things for az. sounds like anti Joe people want to start the false news/ get the whole story! This is typical of your no-facts. As far as McCain goes, he is a war hero, but in ways he's from the Washington bubble & too long! We need to start lineing up polititions who are going to make our state function without corruption, by the people, for the people & thomas, Arpio will do that, first gotta abolish Washington's liberial agenda!
Maybe we should leave this thread to those who want to talk abut everything but Arpaio, his mis-management, malfeasance, and abuses of power. Then there's the guy who is fixated on Simms' love life and that of his ex-wife.
I guess all the pertinent facts will come out in court and those who prattle on about minutae will be forced to face the real facts regarding MCSO, and CAO, and not just talk about them conceptually (or fancifully).
Thomas has resigned to run for Attorney General. We'll see how that works out for him.
Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).
It's people like you who don't know where/ when these investigations by the feds became a big issue, like many other issues that have surfaced since this new president & his cohorts destroying everything in their pathway for their no-sense agenda using their power & abusing that, colapsing our country for no benefit to who should benefit. Again it's not about Joe as Washington have you falsely believe, like they have from the get-go with many issues. I cannot wait till we put better people to run this country with morals, truth, for the americans in Washington. Then maybe alot of issues would get handled & to make U.S.A. safe again, making winners, not losers.
Oh sure the sheriff being investigated has everything to do with the Obama administration and not a sloppy incompetent sheriff's department.
If you believe that, then I have a bridge for sale that you might be interested in sucker.
Your post starts off making no sense: "It's people like you who don't know where/ when these investigations by the feds became a big issue..." then it rapidly goes downhill. Arpaio is in worse trouble if this represents his supporters!
Get on your Big Wheel and ride into the sunset. There you will find an English teacher.
Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).
You progressives make no sense, always switching sentences, subjects, diversion does'nt work, fool, keep your head in the sand......
"You progressives make no sense, always switching sentences, subjects, diversion does'nt [sic] work, fool,". Follow your own advice, if you think it's good enough. You start of talking about progressives, then call someone a fool.
You never mentioned Arpaio and the trouble he's in. Is that a diversion? It doesn't work, you know?
Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).
The sooner you & other people that think like you, realize that you have a lack of awareness of Washington, big government who are Masters of manipulation & deception. Many people do realize Washington needs to be investigated, not Joe. Ya might want to think about that, if you can.....
This thread is about wrongdoing regarding Arpaio, Thomas and other Maricopa County politicians. You need to go to a thread that suits your interest in the wrongdoing and corruption in Washington.
We can be aware and concerned about both, if you don't mind.
Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).
Liz F - North Phoenix said...
Just posting here to say that the post by the fake Liz F North Phoenix, followed by a post from the fake Lawn Order followed by a post from Simms aka Stomper on 3/30 seems to lend support to the Real Lawn Orders guess that Simms aka Stomper is the imposter Liz F and imposter Lawn Order. This is the only post I have made on this thread.
The Real Liz F
April 2, 2010 10:46 AM
: Huh??? J.W. Simms.
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That's where you lack awareness, it has alot to do with big government, if you are'nt aware that says alot. Instead of fixating on only news that's misleading, you definitely are manipulated with deception.
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Progressives running our country did a good job of deception, not telling truths, The only people to trust is ourselves to be aware, listening & find the truth. More people are realizing that this government will not work with their track record. If you understand what their agenda was/is & where they are going with their agenda, then there might enlighten your awareness.
then that might enlighten your awareness.
A sampling of the retarded people that our current educational system spawns is posted again below for your comedic pleasure. I'll be the loser who posted this is really fat as well. Fat AND stupid is no way to go through life son!
"Progressives running our country did a good job of deception, not telling truths, The only people to trust is ourselves to be aware, listening & find the truth. More people are realizing that this government will not work with their track record. If you understand what their agenda was/is & where they are going with their agenda, then there might enlighten your awareness."
Simms- you have selectively ignored my many posts about Apraio and his minions having to go to court. Nitpick so you can find an outlet for your rage if you wish. My posts speak for themselves should you care to understand them in context.
Again- you didn't post any factual information to defend your idol. Not a surprise- you have nothing. He is going to have to face the music.
Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).
Some look at things at face value, people that support Joe know for a fact there's more to this so-called story that media is not telling, so we are sticking to the subject which if you had any sense would realize it does stem from Washington, so media needs to tell the truth, the whole story. Anti Joe people don't deal with the whole situation, they jump on the deceptive bandwagon.
Sheriff Joe is doing a wonderful job. He is the only Law Enforcement Official to actually follow the law. I also think the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors should get off his back. People in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.
Bob Posey
Our government sure does'nt believe in making america great, they have been doing this for so long, thay have people catering to criminals, & believing Joe's the problem, & yes it has everything to do with illegals who are criminals, Washington manipulates for amnesty, they don't want to protect boarders from criminals/terrorists for the safety of americans, with their backgrounds/character & what I hear & see are terrorist within. They have done nothing to make america great, only worst. They are great at set ups & decieving naive people & they will fail. We are giving Washington enough rope & they are hanging themselves,& won't be able to set up other polititions for their agenda which does'nt work, that day can't come soon enough! So America can be free again from this dictatorship. Oh, ya can tell a progressive with the way they divert from what is really going on. They like to be controlled/manipulated/decieved, which is a lack of awareness. They can only react as a community organizer, trade mark for corruption.
We are all victims, especially Joe with this liberial agenda!
All you anti Joe people give no facts by listing liberial media, what a joke, no wonder you don't see the light!
By the way, the liberial media's designed & controlled by your Corrupt Washington convientley for you folks, These polititions get the prize for putting lots of money into corrupt special interest groups over many years to produce this ugly monster of agenda. We don't need it or want it! Joe is part of that agenda, because most people in Arizona want him to do his job & Washington does'nt want that. They need to be put in jail, by our Joe!
I trust Joe alot more than this radical,left liberal agenda from Washington that's been going on way to long. The people will staighten them out, & get the boarders safe again by doing right by the people who want safety with a sheriff like Joe. Which includes letting Joe do his job!
You pro Joe retards aren't fooling anyone! This is the 21st century. The truth about Apraio is just a google away! How about a nice cup of STFU!?
Is Simms up to his usual stupidity of signing in as others so he can try and make it look like people really think he makes any sence at all.
You ANTI-Joe liberals should go live in Mexico -
since you don't want any Sheriff doing his job and you probably
also voted for Obama who isn't doing anything for YOU in this
country anyway.
What part of 'this country is going downhill' don't you get?
Well, you reap what you sow....and you shall see more taxes,
less MONEY for you, etc etc.
All of you got on the Anti-Joe, Anti-Bush bandwagon for a guy
who NEVER RAN ANYTHING in his life before the oval office.
How SMART was that?
You people actually SHOWED your ignorance and now we're seeing
the radical changes that are going to make you poorer and poorer-
UNLESS you decide to step up in 2012 and make the RIGHT choice
for you. Republicans want you to keep more of your hard-earned
money in your pockets, so you can have better lives.
And, most of you are Christians ? Get the National Day of Prayer
back. We are NOT a MUSLIM country, are we?
you had better check out www.islamoncapitolhill.com
before you vote for obama again.
This is YOUR life...you'd better watch out for it...before he
RUINS it !
And spread the word !
Lucky for us who think Sheriff Joe is doing a great job -
OUTNUMBER those of you individuals who don't.
And we prove it EVERY TIME HE GETS RE-ELECTED !
GO JOE ! LUV that pink underwear !
Linda Ronstadt, stay in your OWN COUNTY and demonstrate !
or, worry about more ranchers getting killed on their own property !
That's a little closer to home, for 'ya, isn't it ?
Thank GOD for the bad economy that's sending more Mexicans back
to their OWN country !
We're tired of footin' your bills !
Thank God for sheriff Joe, I'm behing him 110% I am tired of illegals having more rights than Americans. At least it seems that way. They come over have an anchor baby and automatically they are American citizens. That is flat out wrong they average $1500. a month not counting food stamps, medical care etc. When we have Americans fighting overseas, and alot of thier families are on food stamps! And is Joe right? You betcha. I f you are in this country illegally, I don't care where you come from Europe, Russia etc Go back Home, I for one as a tax payer am tired of supporting you1
THE POPLE VOTE FOR JOE TIME AND TIME AGAIN . HE KEEPS FIGHTING FOR US . HE IS SO STRONG . HE DOES THIS BECOUSE RIGHT IS RIGHT . WE HAVE TO HELP HIM TO HELP HIM HELP US JOE YOU ARE LOVED BY AZ. PEOPLE 9 YEARS YOU GAVE US PEOPLE STAND UP FOR OUR JOE NOW WE VOTE FOR LAWS AND MEXICAN SAY NO WAY AND WE CAN'T STOP THEN WHEN I SENT MY KIDS TO SCHOOL THEY HAD TO TALK TIE SHOES DO ABC COLORS . WHEN DO OUR LAW ONY DEAL WITH US WHEY ARE WE GIVIN MORE TO MEXCAIN KIDS THEN ARE VETS GET JUST COUSE THEY HAVE 4 KIDS THEY DID STAND UP FOR THIS COUNTRY . TO LAZY TO START THE PAPER WORK . WHY DO WE LET THEN WHEN DO WE LET THE SPIT ON THAT OUR VET ARE FIGHTING . FOR OUR RIGHT .DO IT THE SAME WAY EVERYONE DO IT IF THIS IS SO HARD AND THERE SO MANY GO BACK AND DO ALL THE THING YOUR FIGHTING ABOUT DO IT IN YOUR COUNTRY MAKE YOUR COUNTRY GREAT BUT DON'T BRING YOU DIRTY WAYS HERE . DO IT RIGHT . YOU BROKE THE LAW FOR 12 YR AND NOW HELP YOU STAY FOR FREE BARB BORE
joe were behind you and always have been maricopa thank you for fighting for us
keep up te good work joe!!!! glad your not running for gov we need you rght where you are!!!
Thank God for Sheriff Joe!!! All you have to look at is the idiotic slant on KPHO tonight on the deportation of illegals to Guatemala. They reported that it cost us $600 per person to deport these illegals. As I understand, it cost us $40,000-90,000 for each illegal in the country. What don't they understand about the LAW???
He does some grandstanding but he does enforce the law and that's what I want him to do. What I don't understand is why people are so upset about this new state law. The media and others are distorting the law: People will ONLY be stopped if they have violated a law and an Arizona drivers license will show they are legal. What in the world is wrong with that! We need this law and the protesters should be required to read it! Read Robert Robb's column in todays Republic; he states the entire thing accurately!
hi evey one this isue of Joe and his power in offiec i bleave thay went at it all the wrong way. Im not protesting agenest the bill but if the sate would of chose diffrent words when thay pased the bill that pushed the bill to fast. on some thing like this i bleave that the state should of had educate the plublic befor the bill was past IE. video on the news,mail.
Yes we have a imagration problem and no mater how you aproch this people will over react. I hate how that the hispanic comunity thinks that this is all about them. You dont have to be hispanic to be an eligle there are white eligles Brown Black Yellow brown pink or purple. im not a rasist person. If you want to be come an amreican do it eliegal do it the right way. i know that the prosses is long and hard to be american. but if you come over from any country and try to work thats not right. thay come to the US to live the american way but allot of them will use a some ones I.D. to work or comite crimes thats what the protesters and ignorent people should be fighting for.
But i under stand that familys will get split apat becuse thay are not Legal. i have a awsner for that U.S. Reps OR the imagraton Dpt.
For the kids who have parients who are not Legal. The STATE should have a program where the parent of and American child can go to the kids school and help them get natralizatioz so thay can be with there kids. Its so easy have the news give an add or any othr media saying that if your kid is in school and you are not Eligal thay can go threw the prosses of becoming an American. the program will partner up with schools that want to help this issue.
Ok now about JOE's Problem Yah he may be tuff And have extream ideas and ruls Im. not a fan of Joe But i dont hate the guy he is diong What nobody wants to do. I hate how people bitch and comeplan about crime ECT.. but the truth is a % of crime is due to Eligals. i Under stand that you feal like there targeting you becuse of race. but its not true. like what if your hispanic or any other race and an eligle takes there I.D. and info and use it to work that should make you mad to. Any Race would not want a drop house or any crime in your naborhood.
P.S. I hate that how we humans rather destroy kill than hellp your fellow man. its all ways one person who bleaves that thay are beter than the rest. example Money power land ect.... we need to unite as humans. i hat that people use religon or what ever thay belive in to justafy there actions its stupid. How do we know that what thay bleave is real on not most Books or worded documants could be falls most histroy was pased down from genaration to genaration Like in old time thay told storys around the fire (like trible elders and story trllers)The story changes from people Just like gosip And rummers. By the time the story gets to you its totaly diffrent by the time you get it. we have to chang now and not later. the earth is allready distroyed Now we as humans we have the capabilty slow that progess and beter the world.
LEAVE JOE ALONE HE IS DOING HIS JOB
Joe you are great!You can"t just go after the big guys like the city attorney wants without profiling,so you take all that are illegal. When the illegals come here they know there is a chance they will get caught.It is against the law.To not respect America enough to obey the laws just shows you really don't want to be an American.No one in Az is against the illegals that just want to work and raise a family,most of us want comprehensive immigration after we get the fence built.
There is nothing like Propaganda to throw people off the real issues. Joe uses propaganda techniques to villainize people that are here because they were recruited by US employers to help meet labor shortages in many of our industries before the recession. There are seven propaganda techniques including:
Name Calling: Creates fear and instills prejudice. Illegal Aliens - make the people sound like creatures rather than humans.
Glittering Generalities: Cannot be proved true or false: Illegal immigrants are the root of all evil/problems in the United States yet this is not supported by actual statistics. The news media and Sheriff Joe contribute to this problem by showcasing crimes committed by minorities and ignoring crimes committed by white people. An example of this is the Baseline Rapist who was on the news until sentencing. Yet, who remembers a white rapist named David Wilson? There was an article in AZ Central and nothing more on the web "During four hours of questioning early Tuesday, Wilson, the son of a Phoenix police sergeant, admitted involvement in 14 rapes and attempted rapes dating to July 2004, police said. The last attack was July 22, 2005."
Transfer: Stirs up our emotions and wins our approval - Illegal is illegal. It is the law. If we are so indignant, then do we stop and ask, "Am I eating a meal prepared by an illegal immigrant?" "Was my home built on the backs of illegal immigrants?" "Who is cleaning my office, my car, my home?" Are you smoking pot or doing some other unlawful behavior like speeding, drinking while intoxicated, etc? What harm is your behavior doing to contribute to the poverty of the people of Mexico?
Testimonials: from people like our Senator McCain who endorses a view by giving it their stamp of approval hoping that the intended audience will follow their example. Shame on you McCain. You should know better.
Plain Folks: the speaker uses ordinary language and mannerisms to reach the audience and identify with their point of view. Sherriff Joe tries to appeal to the masses by insinuating that we are all poor pitiful victims. BOO HOO. Are we really? Or are we victims of our own devices? What is Sherriff Joe doing to combat the drug problem? How many arrests has he made that have dampened this? What about prostitution?
Card Stacking: Propagandist uses this technique to make the best case possible for his side and the worst for the opposing viewpoint by carefully using only those facts that support his or her side of the argument while attempting to lead the audience into accepting the facts as a conclusion.
Band Wagon: Propagandists use this technique to persuade the audience to follow the crowd. This device creates the impression of widespread support
These techniques are designed to fool us because the appeal to our emotions rather than to our reason.
What do we really know about the illegal immigration problem? How much do illegal immigrants really contribute to the drug problem and crime? How much do immigrants contribute to society? How many are really recipients of government services?
How many illegal’s are of other ethnicities or countries like Canada, Europe, Africa, Asia, etc.? Hispanics are not the only illegals but they are the most likely targets because it is easy to assume due to skin color.
How many legal Hispanic citizens are lumped in and counted as receiving services for which they qualify - but are assumed illegal?
People say that illegals are taking the jobs from legal citizens. Yet, most legal citizens that I know are currently collecting unemployment and refuse to take these low paying jobs for fear of losing their free paycheck.
Why doesn't Joe fight real crime?
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