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Tuesday, April 6, 2010

Arpaio Thwarted In Jail Health Care Suit
A Maricopa County judge recently dismissed a lawsuit Sheriff Joe Arpaio filed against the Board of Supervisors related to the jails' health care system:
Arpaio sued the county Board of Supervisors and county administrators last year, saying they mismanaged the agency. County Superior Court Judge Robert Oberbillig granted the county's motion to dismiss Monday. Arpaio said he plans to appeal the decision and take the fight to federal court.

According to the Phoenix New Times, the judge's move may have saved the county more than $100,000:
Oberbillig's ruling, which he announced to the parties involved after oral arguments this afternoon, was a "judgment on the pleadings" -- meaning the judge was able to toss out the suit without any information other than the sheriff's complaint and the county's response.

Which, of course, means less cost to us taxpayers. Yay!

That doesn't mean it wasn't a huge waste of money. The judge's quick decision, says Wade Swanson, the county's general counsel, means that legal fees will run to "tens of thousands of dollars instead of hundreds of thousands of dollars." But hey... considering what this stuff usually costs, we'll take it.

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Anonymous Lawn Order said...

I've never been sued, thankfully. But if anyone ever does, I sure hope it's Joe Arpaio! Seems like most of his lawsuits end up in dismissal, or judgments against him.

Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).

April 6, 2010 at 3:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GOOD ......... I just couldn`t picture Arpaio with a nurses uniform on .......Hell ....the man really doesn`t know how to run a jail properly ....... you know what I mean ?? loss of accredation of the jail and 13 MILLION dollars paid out in lost lawsuits and more in the pipeline ....remember what was said about the lawsuits ????? "THERE IS A COST OF DOING BUSINESS " WASN`T THAT HIS SECOND IN COMMAND HENDERSHOT WHO SAID THAT ?????? quality law enforcement ......

April 6, 2010 at 6:24 PM  
Anonymous RealNewsJunkie said...

Not 13m paid out in lawsuits. $43M! More federal suits than Chicago, Houston and LA combined.

And why is it that Hendershott controls a $250m budget, after two bankruptcies and a pending foreclose, and Joke backs him up in stonewalling an audit?

April 6, 2010 at 7:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He would of done an honest to good job. It's only ok for the corrupt fed. gov. to have fabricated law suits against people who do right for this country, right. Joe needs to put the feds behind bars! I sure would'nt trust corrupt government in Washington. They have destroyed life as we knew it, we have two more years of hell, but we can still stop as much as we can in the mean time.

April 6, 2010 at 9:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"They have destroyed life as we knew it,"

Dude you are retarded. The truth about your boy Arpaio is out! Everybody in Arizona knows what a sadistic a-hole he is now!

April 6, 2010 at 9:56 PM  
Anonymous Lawn Order said...

Why don't you who say it's the corrupt Feds offer to join Arpaio's defense, and see whether they laugh at you? I think they will!

Since you won't do that (or be allowed to by Arpaio)- let's see your evidence. Since you don't have any come up with another straw man for us to knock down before the Arpaio et al trial(s).

Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).

April 6, 2010 at 10:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Destruction of america, caused by Washington & abusing their power, if you can't see that or feel that your must be ignorant! that's a fact.

April 6, 2010 at 10:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

America feels the same to me. Same problems same joys and the same bigots like you. You must be thinking about another country. Please move there. There is no need for old school old men like you with old ideas.

April 6, 2010 at 11:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Libs are well know for their corruption behind closed doors, so who ever they put in their gang of polititions are with corruption & agenda. So, get your mind out from behind closed doors.

April 7, 2010 at 6:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like your in denial, ignorant of what's going on in America!

April 7, 2010 at 6:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You people are'nt complaining about the waste of our money used for the ridiculas lawsuits initiated by our corrupt Washington, Washington is well known for your tax dollars going to feed corruption.

April 7, 2010 at 6:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These threads are about Apraio. Last I checked he does not work in Washington. Go find a tea party retard thread and post there old man.

April 7, 2010 at 7:03 AM  
Anonymous Brad Ellis said...

Look around everyone. We have exported all of our midclass manufacturing jobs to foriegn countries for cheaper labor. Our government did nothing. Illegals are STILL coming across the border. Why??? They are still getting jobs, while we are losing ours. Again, government is doing little to nothing to stop it. Are all of you going to support the illegals when we no longer have a middle class? Are you going to go to the fast food places, hotels, and Walmarts where they are working and getting free government health care while we can't get health care for our own kids? One of my professors in college said we are becoming a nation of service occupation. When our kids no longer know how to grow crops, build or manufacture things, we will no longer be a nation, but a servant to other nations. Help Arpio and others to get our country back.

Brad Ellis

April 7, 2010 at 7:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Arpaio lost another lawsuit! Big surprise! What an idiot!

April 7, 2010 at 7:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's where libs get away with saying one thing & doing another, It is all about Washington corruptly running our country & states. They have wasted alot of money making you believe they are doing great things for america. Caught in another lie, They have hung themselves, & still trying to go after Joe. You need to wake up! The people of america are gonna fire the employees we employ in Washington. There is no trust in doing right by who they are suppost to serve{work for}. We are proud to have Joe fight for our rights & freedom! By the way, when somebody is doing their job,& well like Joe & for a good number of years, it really does'nt bother him, he understands where the corruption is comming from, lies out of Washington, so get with the corrupt program which runs our country, here & now.

April 7, 2010 at 10:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder how much money this last lawsuit cost the county. What a waste!

April 7, 2010 at 10:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we LOVE Sheriff JOE !

and it shows in the polls

I guess more people Love him than not...

too bad for you anti-Joe shmo's ! Ha !

(lin in scotts)

April 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right, his ratings have fallen off the charts... Yeah, I used to support him too, but you will come around soon, trust me.

April 7, 2010 at 12:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's because you really have no clue, until you realize where this is comming from, you never will, fool

April 7, 2010 at 1:03 PM  
Anonymous Lawn Order said...

"We have exported all of our midclass manufacturing jobs to foriegn countries for cheaper labor. Our government did nothing. Illegals are STILL coming across the border. Why???" Hi Brad- if you live in Maricopa County you have just made the point that Arpaio isn't doing enough about any of this. In fact, the unemployment rate HERE was as recently as two months ago- HIGHER than the average in the USA!

And he keeps wasting the taxpayers money. And he's a publicity hound. And he treats hounds better than humans- it's been on the TV, Brad!

Good job. Next straw man!

Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).

April 7, 2010 at 1:48 PM  
Anonymous Lawn Order said...

Brad- please allow me to add: I agree with you that the US has allowed lots of manufacturing and other (even better jobs) to go oversees to all sorts of places. I have seen it at first hand- having trained foreign workers to take my job. That didn't sit well with me. But that is a subject for another thread.

And more importantly, it doesn't mean that Joe Arpaio is doing a good job, or that he is an effective Sheriff- that's why he pays his Chief Deputy Hendershott well over twice his own salary. Nobody has even attempted to justify that disparity and the list is very very lengthy. Nope- what we all want is good, capable, affordable law enforcement. What we have is a self-serving egomaniac politician who tells people what they want to hear and comes up with one after another publicity stunt to fool the public into thinking he's tough on crime. Ordinarily that would be just a normal sort of annoyance, but this man has the authority to take away people's freedom and has abused it numerous times, and has allowed very shoddy practices that have resulted in the ultimate penalty, sometimes before the case has even been adjudicated. I am referring to the senseless deaths that have occurred in his jails, at the hands of his officers. That is not acceptable.

Brad, I have read every factual thing I can get my hands on about the job Arpaio is doing (or not), and have reached my own carefully reasoned conclusion that he really stinks as a Sheriff. But he's a very very effective politician.

Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).

April 7, 2010 at 2:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How much is it costing all of us tax payers for fabricated/set up laws suits comming out of Washington?

April 7, 2010 at 3:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"How much is it costing all of us tax payers for fabricated/set up laws suits comming out of Washington?"

I don't know but I sure am tired of paying for short buses for tards like you.

April 7, 2010 at 9:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't bother with the facts just dismiss. Judges are quick to support the Supervisors and rule against Joe. No trial, no in depth review of the case just dismiss. The corruption in the county is amazing. I wish someone in the media would be as tough on the Supervisors as they are on Joe.

April 7, 2010 at 10:21 PM  
Anonymous Lawn Order said...

"Don't bother with the facts just dismiss...." Well, I noticed that you didn't post a single fact to back up your assertion. Do you know whether the charges were dismissed "with prejudice"? Do you know what that means?

It's quite easy to repeat non-facts, because "everyone says" (that is, everyone you know or associate with). But proving your point is a different matter.

For many years now, the media has covered Joe's press conferences and "crime supression sweeps" and many other of his publicity stunts and I never heard a word of complaint about their coverage until now, when he's being investigated for possible criminal abuses. If there's a reasonable suspicion that he abused his authority (he has a badge, so he has a lot of authority over you and me whether we like it or not)- wouldn't you want it investigated?

What if it were another law enforcement agency that was facing these accusations- would you want them investigated? If they were, would you like to be informed of it. Well, that is all the media is doing, and I would have to say that it seems that they are doing it in a pretty even-handed manner. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).

April 8, 2010 at 1:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The biggest problem is when people don't associate/put two & two together & realize the start of bashing/thugging, which is more apparent since new agenda started with Washington, most are radical left community organizers/criminals. Sounds like the are destroying the very core of our country & doing it illegally in very many ways. I am not for giving criminals more rights, they have too many already. So. if you can see the method to Washington's madness, then you just might see Washington has alot to do with lies, abusing their powers on Joe & media so you can be persuaded to believe that their way is better for the criminals, not for the american citizens.

April 9, 2010 at 8:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe how much credit you give the corruption in Washington, there is no credibility/responsibility & zero trust with what thet have pulled since taken over!

April 9, 2010 at 11:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe the county board of supervisors that Joe sued are guilty, just like the libs who voted against the will of the american citizens for the agenda comming out of Washington. They are all slick to cover ups, dirty dealings, lies, I could go on & on. No Transparency, wonder what they're hiding, when you fiqure it out, let me know.

April 9, 2010 at 11:59 AM  
Anonymous Lawn Order said...

Shifting the blame isn't a new tactic in dealing with accusations of wrongdoing. We've seen quite a bit (but not nearly all) of the evidence to support charges of abuse of authority. Arpaio has lost numerous court cases stemming from mistreatment, and deaths of those in his custody- some who hadn't even had their day in court. Its about 50 times the rate at which other jails of similar size have paid out damages and penalties!

His jails have lost their accreditation multiple times (and the standards are not that high). Where does the buck stop when it comes to running the MCSO? Why does Arpaio pay Hendershott much more than twice his own salary? Nobody has even attempted to explain that- so who is really the most important leader at MCSO?

Shift the blame all you want on these blogs, but in court Arpaio will have to take responsibility for his performance. Unlike these blogs- he will have to present provable facts and not just opinion and innuendo.

Now- where's the evidence that the BOS is guilty, and of what? Why do the charges keep getting dismissed? Post provable facts and not conspiracy THEORIES.

You talk about transparency, and I agree that is important. Why then, does Arpaio's MCSO fail to keep adequate records, and even fail to report crime statistics in their jurisdiction to the FBI some years?

We've had this discussion over a dozen times, but nobody has defended him with facts or evidence, only name calling and accusations and bizarre (maybe delusional) conspiracy theories.

Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).

April 9, 2010 at 1:00 PM  
Anonymous Lawn Order said...

Wow that is a lot of generalized accusations! No specifics, and therefore the only conclusions that a logical person can reach is that all of these scathing generalizations have no basis. They also have nothing to do with the accusations against Joe Arpaio which are documented, and very specific. Those have sound bases.

I really didn't expect anyone who idolizes the current Sheriff to address the facts. If the facts were important to them they would, in all likelihood, not be so fervent in their support.

Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).

April 9, 2010 at 2:09 PM  
Anonymous Lawn Order said...

"I believe the county board of supervisors that Joe sued are guilty" And, compared to the court, how much of the evidence was presented to you? None.

When are people going to stop shifting blame in defiance of the facts, and hold the Sheriff accountable so we can move forward?

Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).

April 9, 2010 at 3:15 PM  
Anonymous The ReaL Liz F - North Phoenix said...

Hey Lawn Order -

Sorry - I didn't mean to abandon you to the wolves. You're right in that I don't post much out here anymore. I have a problem with a format that allows the BS that has gone on.

That does not detract from the issues. Simms AKA Stomper AKA Anonymous keeps posting that same old dreary post over and over again. Even though I have told him more than once that the "Let's rock like we did on the other boards (meaning previous threads on KPHO) was ME, not YOU, he's too stupid to recognize the ignorance of his post. The fact that he keeps posting the same thing over and over, as Stomper and Anonymous, and then responding as Simms, well.... you just need to wonder about his mental health...

You're right. I usually do post news articles, facts and links. I haven't been around much, not because I don't have anything to say (although Joe's pedalvision isn't really a topic that I find "hot") but because I work in a business that is highly linked to April 15th and I'm just too busy to be out here much. Couple that with my displeasure that any Joe Blow can come out here and post as me - well, it's low on my priority list.

That being said, I have been in contact with a couple of people that have always been very, very close, if not "spot on" as to the time frame that things happen within MCSO. Word is that indictments will be coming by the end of this month. Given the odds on the posters that I am referring to being accurate, that might be the end of April or perhaps early May. I don't trade options on these posts. I just have been impressed with their reliability. I'd be very surprised if the indictments are MIA by mid to late May.

It baffles me why some of the less educated people here that are so pro-Joe don't understand the ramifications of Hendershott walking away from his $775,000 debt on his home. It's not that he COULD NOT pay it. It was that he chose NOT TO. That depresses values of homes in his area and leaves the bank holding the bag for his poor decisions. And yet, this is a man who has declared personal bankruptcy TWICE in the past AND is IN CHARGE of a $260 million budget for MCSO. THAT does not make me comfortable. And to that the fact that he's a double dipper, not illegal, but certainly 'questionable' --

I've been a bit quiet lately for a few reasons. I'm waiting for Stomper/Simms/Annonymous to post something to tear into him over, I'm waiting for a new County Attorney to see what I think about the possibility of the continuation of the "pocket pal" relationship between the MCSO and the MCAO, and lastly, I'm waiting for The Freak Shurf JoKKKe Arpaio to resign for that foolish run for Guvner.

Don't think that I've abandoned you to spread the truth on your own, Lawn Order!! I know that we have together turned at least a few Joe sheep to the truth. I might not be here 24/7 but I will still speak my mind on these blogs, regardless of the verbal vomit of Simms/Stomper/Anonymous and his incredible reappearing post. ROTFL!!

Have a great night, LO! You're dilligence has earned it!

April 9, 2010 at 7:32 PM  
Anonymous The Real Liz F - North Phoenix (for now) said...

Might I also add that the idiots who keep posting about the Socialist Washington agenda need to ask KPHO to start a new "Obama Blog" because reading their federal diareha of the keyboard BS is enough to put one in a coma.

These blogs are about MARICOPA COUNTY and SHURF JOKE.

Any other post is off topic.

The DOJ began investigating Joseph M. Arpaio under the Bush administration. While you, like I, may not agree with our current Washington DC opinion on the best solution to the boarder problems, don't blame Obama for Arpaio's mis-deeds!!! This was going on long before he took the office of President.

April 9, 2010 at 7:52 PM  
Anonymous Lawn Order said...

Liz, thanks for your post. I am glad everything is okay. I figured that you had left this blog to the indoctrinated drones who lack critical thinking ability and/or are too lazy or incompetent to research the facts. I have considered that myself, as I seem to be repeating the same stuff over and over trying to see if the logic will finally get to the illogical. I also do it in hopes that casual browsers will become a little more educated and curious to know more than before they visited.

It has crossed my mind on many occasions, that even if nobody posted the real factual evidence about Arpaio's dismal job performance, even if nobody confronted these repeaters of far-out manifestos, and nobody posted to attempt to make them think about the utter silliness of their faith in the man- it might make no difference. The silliness of their posts requires no grown-up to expose it. For objective people, therefore, I have thought that they might do some research based on the vitriolic fallacies the Arpaio supporters post. How could a reasonable person then support Arpaio?

However- I don't know. I very much appreciate the encouragement though. And am glad you posted your views yet again, even though some dimwit thinks he's going to dupe people by trying to sound a little more reasonable when he posts as you, then repeating the same flawed logic and propaganda(and changing the subject) that they all do.

In any event, Arpaio will have his day in court, unlike so many who have died in his jails simply because they were accused. Someday there will be an end to his waste of badly needed tax money for his own pleasure.

P.S. I hate April 15th! But there are people that make it a little easier to deal with.

Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).

April 9, 2010 at 11:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The evidence is clear, judging Joe by the false news you think he's guilty. The left sided reporting has issued you a sucker award.

April 10, 2010 at 6:34 AM  
Anonymous Lawn Order said...

"The evidence is clear, judging Joe by the false news you think he's guilty." And just where are your facts proving that or exonerating him? The amounnts that he's paid out in taxpayer funds are part of the public record, as are all of the other lawsuits and his deposition. He likes to talk on camera, and make a fool of himself and of those who keep electing him. Facts are facts. Deal with it.

The media can't try him, but the court will. He loves the media too- and uses it every time he can. Joe Arpaio is a politician. Get a clue.

Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).

April 10, 2010 at 2:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are so far gone being indocrinated with lib. news, you think it's fact. He's definitely the respectable one, not like Washington & the lies they spread for news!

April 11, 2010 at 12:22 AM  
Anonymous Lawn Order said...

"You are so far gone being indocrinated with lib. news..." Yeah, sure- about the 90th time someone has repeated that without disproving so much as a single fact. So which of us is indoctrinated?

And I have cited numerous sources, I don't know how fast your read, I can only imagine. But take your time to read my posts. I have been faulted for citing the conservative Goldwater Institute's report too. You can't have it both ways. Arpaio is going to be tried in court no matter what you'd like to believe. And he needs to take responsibility for HIS actions (and inaction in many cases), and not shift the blame as so many criminals do.

When did you complain about the liberal media when they were giving him a camera and microphone to promote his publicity stunts. I'd like to see that. Don't you think it's hypocritical to complain about the coverage now after all these years?

Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).

April 11, 2010 at 4:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I'm not a fan of sheriff joe, there are no facts to present because no investigation took place.

April 14, 2010 at 11:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This ia for all the Anti Joe people, as I stated before it's the fed. gov. involved & not doing their job, where Sheriff Joe has always done his job! Now, who's the corrupt? Washington!!!! LET THE TRUTH BE KNOWN, MEDIA!

April 15, 2010 at 5:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Truly a great American. Hopefully the next President will be pro-American and put someone like the sherriff in charge of Homeland Security.

April 20, 2010 at 6:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My husband and I have been to quite a few states these past years as retirees, everywhere we go and people find out that Arizona is our home state and we live in Maricopa County they say: "Oh, you guys have that Sherriff, we love him, that is the way law enforcement should be. If we ever want to get rid of him, send him to their county. We have never heard a negative word from any so called "conservative or liberal or independent" against the Sherriff. As always it is the silent majority that sit back and listen what is going on and saying nothing.

April 21, 2010 at 5:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If your going to pardon or ignore the immigration law, why not ignor all the misdemeanor crimes commited by LEGAL citizens?

Illeagal immigration is like a cancer. It is slowly but surely killing this country.
Like cockaroachs that breed, destroy, and contribute nothing, is a fair comparison to illeagal immigration.

April 23, 2010 at 6:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe doesnt care about the health and welfare of prisoners. He could care less if you die in there. Besides its one less mouth he has to feed and hear from. Put the old goat out to pasture. Everyone deserves healthcare.

April 28, 2010 at 5:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOVE what Jo stands for, the law. IT’S AGINST THE LAW TO BE HERE ILLEGALLY. Why shouldn’t our local officers support this cause. What most do not see the millions of dollars it cost the state. No health insurance, No car insurance, Most do not pay taxes, some live off our community resources, sucking the state our of what little funds we have left. Its time we put up or shut up. I support Joe and the new law. Its time we stand up for ourselves. What really upsetting is Janet Napolitano stand. How dare she.Illegal Immigration IS A CRIME! JGH

April 29, 2010 at 7:13 AM  

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