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Wednesday, May 12, 2010

Board Wants Arpaio To Turn Over Financial Documents
The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors wants an explanation from Sheriff Joe Arpaio about why he did not turn over financial documents the board requested through a subpoena.

  • Read: Subpoena (.pdf)


  • Read: Arpaio Response

    In late April, the board issued an administrative subpoena to the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office requesting financial records for their RICO, Jail Enhancement Funds and other bank account information.

    Officials said the subpoena was issued after Arpaio did not produce the requested information. The board could decide to open up contempt hearings against the sheriff and MCSO.

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    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Romley is in this radical mix, stopping Joe from doing his proven job record, all in the name of napolitano & others! Typical, don't do the right thing, thugging their way to az.

    May 18, 2010 at 8:22 PM  
    Anonymous Porky Pig said...

    Most people these days are searching for the truth, some people only know what the media tells them, so try searching for both sides of an issue, not just one side." Right back atcha'! Funny how we see this stuff so often, but never any facts with the "other" side. Oh, and sometimes there are more than two sides to an issue. I don't mean to destroy your world. But you need to take your own advice and SEARCH, and not take a personality cult leader's word for things without checking them out carefully.

    Most people are NOT searching for the truth- they are finding people who will tell them what they want to hear. Here's an example: Do you know how many denominations there are today, claiming to be Christian (that is, followers of Jesus Christ)? I found the answer to that question (it's MUCH higher than I expected), but you need to find it for yourself. Now, how many of those religions did their namesake start? Did he have a bunch of different groups of disciples with different ideas? Nope. These church-going people go to war and kill each other if a lower power tells them to. They even have chaplains in the battlefield, many of whom profess to be following Christ. So- there's a tiny bit of evidence that people are NOT searching for the truth. They make up their own "truth" and call other people names rather than considering the evidence. Oink! Oink!

    May 18, 2010 at 8:23 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

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    May 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM  
    Anonymous J.W. Simms said...

    Interim county attorney Rick Romley needs to have his financial situation investigated. Why is this guy so close to the county supervisors? Did Wilcox and stapley lure Romley out of retirement with the promise of a big piece of the taxpayer pie if he could help drive Arpaio out of office? Did Romley's dire financial situation require him to accept a bribe? Is Rick Romley, just another crooked bastard on Maricopa county's list of crooked bastards? I think so. J.W. Simms.

    May 18, 2010 at 10:32 PM  
    Anonymous SnagglePuss said...

    Why don't you who say it's the corrupt Feds offer to join Arpaio's defense, and see whether they laugh at you? I think they will!

    Since you won't do that (or be allowed to by Arpaio)- let's see your evidence. Since you don't have any come up with another straw man for us to knock down before the Arpaio et al trial(s).

    May 18, 2010 at 10:38 PM  
    Anonymous Mark Gasser said...

    Lawn order files,

    He posted this,

    (I agree with you, Mark that lots of people on all sides of government are corrupt. Here we're talking about Joe Arpaio, who is also a corrupt politician. That's why he's hiding his accounts. It's why he exaggerates and even fabricates his record. But the data that you can check shows he's doing a bad job as Sheriff. I wish he weren't- I'd have better things to do.

    Unfortunately he makes all those TV appearances because he knows they work. He's fooled people into believing his PR, that they're safer with him in office, when the data (much of which I've posted above) shows quite the opposite is true.)

    I am glad you can see that there is money corrupted politicians in our government. Still, I am unsure who you say is corrupting Joe? If for sure can’t be the Mexican drug lords, Joe is arresting their meth backs. For sure it’s not the ones paying off city officials, Joe is exposing the city officials. So who is paying Joe? What is his real agenda if it is not enforcing the law?

    Yes I saw the proof you say says Joe is bad. Yet the proof you provided, wouldn’t be any different than if someone else was our sheriff. Until the tax payers or city officials, provide more money for police, statistics aren’t going to change here, no matter who our sheriff is.

    At least Joe stands up to the corrupt money system, Joe arrests the systems modern day slaves. To date, no other sheriff in America will arrest a modern day slave for being here illegally. This is why I support Joe. It is the same reason many hate him. The fact of the matter is, Joe is helping all Americans, not just the legal ones of AZ.

    May 19, 2010 at 2:22 AM  
    Anonymous Mark Gasser said...

    No, it is not Joe’s job,

    It is not Joes job to expose the corrupt Federal Government, but at least someone did it.

    Thanks to Joe, AZ will lead the other 49 states into a real America by Americans, not an America controlled by rich lobbyist. At the present, as long as America continues to allow rich interest control America, we are no different than a dictatorship. That is how dictatorships work, but it is not how America is suppose to work.

    Yes Joe has exposed the dictatorship in Washington. No it wasn’t Joe’s job, but all of America should love Joe for this. Yes, all of America will be praising Arizona, once we take America back to the people. Thanks to Joe, we are closer than ever, to being a country for the people by the people. Instead of one that runs on oil and lies. Arizona may not of had a great look in the other states eyes before. But thanks to Joe, Arizona will soon be known as the leader to a greater America, Mark my words and thank you Joe.

    May 19, 2010 at 2:46 AM  
    Anonymous Lawn Order said...

    "Romley is in this radical mix, stopping Joe from doing his proven job record" - I couldn't help but notice that you didn't post any of Arpaio's "proven job record". Of course, I know you're only posting political propaganda, and you want people to believe that Arpaio is doing somewhere near as good a job as he claims. He isn't. And you know it. So let me do that for you, and simultaneously dare you to prove one of these numbers or accounts wrong (citing your sources as I have):


    Excerpted from ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=9219341

    The department's performance can be assessed by the percentage of crimes that are solved or cleared per year. Most crimes are cleared either by an arrest or by an "exception," such as where the perpetrator is known to police, but can no longer be apprehended. Clearance by "exception" is supposed to be exceptional. But, in Maricopa County, that's not the case.

    In 2006, 75 percent of cases were closed on the basis of exception as opposed to by arrest, according to the Goldwater Institute. In 2008, the Goldwater Institute also reports that only 18 percent of cases were cleared as a result of an arrest, while 82 percent were cleared as a result of exception.

    "You know that was a criteria that was not an official type of statistic. That's somewhat how we look at it. It's not an official type statistic...it's just something that our policy is," he said.

    "Those figures are misleading because we do solve over 50 percent of our homicides, but it's how you look at it whether it was a husband-wife murder..." Arpaio continued.

    Pressed to explain why 82 percent of cases were declared cleared by exception, and if his department was writing cases off instead of reducing crime, Arpaio said his department clears more than 18 percent of cases by arrest.

    "We do clear a higher percentage of that. I know that. We clear many, many cases -- not 18 percent," he said.

    "Nightline" contacted the Sheriff's department again after the interview and was told that of 7,346 crimes -- only 944 had been cleared by arrest -- which amounts to only 15 percent. The remaining 85 percent were deemed inactive, unfounded or cleared by exception.

    We asked Arpaio to address allegations that he's reducing crime on paper, but not in practice. "It's a bad allegation..." he said. "We solve over 50 percent of our murders. I'll put that against any other law enforcement. You're quoting exception and how the FBI clears cases...I got the facts. We have cleared over 50 percent of murders!"



    From: http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2008/10/arpaios_phony_murder_plot_cost.php

    James Saville was arrested in July 1999 for allegedly conspiring to murder Joe Arpaio with a pipe bomb. Saville had just completed an 18-month sentence for arson for attempting to blow up his high school by filling it with gas from 37 opened bunsen burners. While in prison, Saville had drawn crude bomb plans and expressed to a jailhouse snitch the desire to kill the prosecutor and judge in his arson case. He was arrested the day after his release while assembling a bomb in the presence of an undercover sheriff's deputy. A jury decided that undercover officers from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office had entrapped Saville by turning his assassination plans toward Sheriff Arpaio, and found Saville not guilty.

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    And don't give me any garbage about this or that source. Prove the FACTS wrong if you think you can (and cite your sources so they can be checked like mine).

    Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).

    May 19, 2010 at 2:52 AM  
    Anonymous Lawn Order said...

    Ran out of space on my previous post:

    Yet another measure of law enforcement is response times to 911 calls. MCSO has a response-time goal of five minutes. In 2007, its median response time was just over seven minutes and its average response time was nearly 11 minutes. (from Interview with Glen Gardner, Phoenix Police Department, October 20, 2008.)
    By contrast, the Phoenix Police Department reports an average response time of four minutes.2 The Tribune found that in 2006 and 2007, MCSO patrol cars took more than five minutes to arrive on two-thirds of the most serious calls for police assistance. (Pulitzer-winning East Valley Tribune “Reasonable Doubt: Key Findings.”)

    Posted by the original, authentic Lawn Order (not someone who tries to dupe people into thinking he has credibility by using my handle).

    May 19, 2010 at 2:54 AM  
    Anonymous Mark Gasser said...

    If the Feds won’t enforce it, Arizona can

    It amazes me how people in the Federal government want to sue Arizona for SB1070, yet never even read the Federal law. Oh yes, SB1070 is the Federal immigration law word for word, only it is our state law now.

    The ones wanting to sue, say Arizona has no right to enforce a Federal law. I say bullshit, if the Feds aren’t going to enforce the law, the state has every right to take if over, like Arizona just did.

    Even the secretary of home land security, told John McCain she did not read our law but she would not support a law like SB1070. What! I couldn’t believe my ears when that dyke spoke. How in the hell can she be Obama’s secretary of home land security, if she has no plans to enforce the Feds home land security law, which reads the same as SB1070? In reality, she has no plans to stop the modern day slaves, why do you think Obama appointed her? Why do you think she did nothing to secure our boarders when she was our governor?

    Now you know the rest of the story, now you know the truth. Now you know why America needs Joe.

    May 19, 2010 at 3:09 AM  
    Anonymous Mark Gasser said...

    Hey lawn order,

    What are you doing up this early, didn't you go to bed yet? This is suppose to be my peacefull time for writing, not having to answer questions from you. I will look at your evidence later, I have some writing to do yet, not for this site. Later.

    May 19, 2010 at 3:20 AM  
    Anonymous Mark Gasser said...

    Lawn order files,

    this is the last part posted by lawn order,

    (Yet another measure of law enforcement is response times to 911 calls. MCSO has a response-time goal of five minutes. In 2007, its median response time was just over seven minutes and its average response time was nearly 11 minutes. (from Interview with Glen Gardner, Phoenix Police Department, October 20, 2008.)
    By contrast, the Phoenix Police Department reports an average response time of four minutes.2 The Tribune found that in 2006 and 2007, MCSO patrol cars took more than five minutes to arrive on two-thirds of the most serious calls for police assistance. (Pulitzer-winning East Valley Tribune “Reasonable Doubt: Key Findings.”)


    To answer this,

    If you want to compare the City of Phoenix response times to Joe's, you are not making a fare comparison at all.

    A fair comparison would be to compare Joe’s response time to that of the last sheriff in Maricopa county, because of the simple fact, Maricopa County is far more square miles than the city of Phoenix. Joe’s officers have more miles to travel per call than the city of Phoenix officers.

    If you want to compare Joe to the last sheriff, you have to take into account the number of people living in the valley now and then, compared to the number of police now and then, to respond to the calls. Also, crime rate statistics will have to be considered, how many calls of a crime came in then and now, is very important when making such a comparison. I don’t believe the size of the county changed, or that too would have to be taken into consideration.

    Show me some fair comparisons ok, then we can talk more. I will take a look at the first part of your post later.

    May 19, 2010 at 4:59 AM  
    Anonymous Mark Gasser said...

    It takes 11 minutes,

    If you call 911 in Maricopa County, it is going to take you an average of 11 minutes to see one of Joe's officers, according to lawn order and his sources, which I am not arguing. Still, I can't blame Joe for this, not when we have more crime here everyday but no money to hire more police. Yes I am still ticked off about the four hundred million being spent on a new court house. Joe told the officials in charge of building this court house that he needs money, don't waste what we have. You know who I mean, the same officials that accused Joe's deputies of abuse of power, yet not one of them got his deputies on their cell phone doing such an act. It for sure turned out Joe was right. If the county had only twenty million to spend on the majority, we wouldn't have to lay off police officers now, when we should be hiring many more. Yes, the response time will only get worse.

    If we want better response times, then we have to be willing to pay for them too. We have to stop letting money officials waste our money on money, it's time they spend some for the majority for sure.

    I sure would love to see those officials real spending records, but good luck with that. And what about the Pentagon, billions in unaccounted funds. Where did the money go, where are the records? Joe's missing records mean nothing, compared to the missing records of the one's who want to see Joe‘s.

    May 19, 2010 at 5:44 AM  
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