Saturday, January 16, 2010

Protesters Clash With Police At Arpaio March

Ten thousand immigrant rights advocates marched in front of a county jail in Phoenix Saturday in a protest that was aimed at Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's immigration efforts and was marked by a clash between a small group of protesters and police officers.

The protest was meant to show officials in Washington that Arpaio shouldn't handle immigration enforcement, and Congress and the Obama administration need to come up with a way for immigrant workers to come to the country legally, protesters said.

Officers used pepper spray as protesters hurled water bottles at police.

For his part, Arpaio said he wasn't bothered by protesters and that they should be directing their frustrations at Congress because it has the power to change America's immigration laws. "They are zeroing in on the wrong guy," Arpaio said. "They ought to be zeroing in on the president."

Labels: illegal immigration, Linda Ronstadt, protesters

346 Comments:

Anonymous said...: TALK ABOUT ABUSIVE POWERS, THERE'S A WHOLE LIST, TRY THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IN WASH DC, ACLU, & ALL THE GROUPS THAT SUPPORT ILLEGALS. SHERIFF JOE SHOULD OF DONE HIS CRIME SWEEP TODAY, SENDING ALL WALKING BACK TO MEXICO! NO AMNESTY, PURE BULL....; January 16, 2010 at 6:40 PM
Anonymous said...: Nothing like pushing your illegal agenda, can't wait till corruption starts going away, it will, as they say...GIVE THEM ENOUGH ROPE AND THEY'LL HANG THEMSELVES...PROGRESSIVES OUT, COMMON SENSE IN!; January 16, 2010 at 7:04 PM
Anonymous said...: We should have more people in power who do there job like Joe, and don't care about scratching the right backs. Way to go Joe. Keep fighting the good fight. I am tired of illegal aliens getting more things than I get. The jails are full of illegals who came to this country to get fast money. They want to come here for the right reasons then do it the right way, like our ancestors did.; January 16, 2010 at 7:14 PM
Anonymous said...: THEY REALLY CAN'T TOUCH OUR WONDERFUL SHERIFF, HE'S DONE HIS JOB FOR ALONG TIME & DOES IT WELL FOR US IN AZ. I WISH HE COULD DO MORE, MAYBE IN THE NEAR FUTURE HE'LL BE ABLE TO; January 16, 2010 at 7:37 PM
Anonymous said...: When you voted for Sheriff Joe, you hired him to protect us. Part of His job is to keep the border safe, not only the Spanish population,
but Also the drugs, the Terrorist's, and anyone
else who wishes to have another 9/11. I disagree
with the way you "Tell It Like It Is" When you go after Sheriff Joe and His Troops, you are putting EVERY-ONE OF US in harms way. Lets say you succeed and get Him out of office, Who's going to protect you then ? ?
Some "Goof Ball" who will be to scared to do what Sheriff Joe is doing now. I say Leave Him alone, and let Him do the job you hired Him to do.; January 16, 2010 at 8:07 PM
Anonymous said...: All you cronies need to be in jail. We need to profile in this corrupt world we live in.; January 16, 2010 at 8:29 PM
Anonymous said...: Joe is the model of corruption. But don't worry you little selves. Justice is coming with a wrecking ball. When the new sheriff is in office you're all probably gonna get fired!; January 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM
big boy said...: Just a thought....I became a permanent resident of the USA 2 years ago. Went through the legal process & did it by the book, cost was about $10k. So when I see these people crying the blues about the Sherrif I say he is doing what he was elected to do "BY THE PEOPLE". He is going after illegals for a reason they have no business being here , period. They have families to support. Well we all do. Children cry loudly hoping parents will pay attention to help them or to embarrass, but 99% of the time the parents are in the right. NO difference here, the illegals are in the wrong the Sheriff is in the right. Profiling is criticized when it provides results and when it doesn't, when it gets a criminal it is worth the time and effort. Just my 2 cents.; January 16, 2010 at 9:12 PM
Anonymous said...: Sheriff Joe is doing what EVERYONE else is afraid to - go after those who break our laws. I don't get it people... IF SOMEONE STOLE EVERYTHING OUT OF YOUR HOUSE, wouldn't you want to find that person and have them thrown in jail? Then why let someone steal you job, lifestyle, identity, and your childrens lives (by transporting drugs over the border) and your okay with it?!!! Hypocracy is not an opinion, it's a DISEASE!!!; January 16, 2010 at 9:35 PM
Anonymous said...: I am all for a Sheriff who keeps our county safe and finds and persecutes illegal aliens, but once any law enforcement officer begins bending the law - even just a little bit, even if we think it's a sort of 'necessary evil' - we can no longer claim to be the greatest country in the world. As Americans, we have committed ourselves to running our country by the LAWS set down in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the various Supreme Court rulings of the past 200+ years. As soon as we try to skirt around those laws, even if we all feel the laws are outdated or not right, WE ALL LOSE. And Sheriff Joe has been skirting these laws for YEARS, with the blessing of the people of Maricopa County. This makes me pretty sad, especially being a law-abiding, native Phoenician.

Let's NOT piss on our Constitution, even if it means waiting for justice.; January 16, 2010 at 9:40 PM
The Anonymous that just posted about the Constitution said...: Also, most of these comments are saying basically the same thing: the illegal aliens are wrong; Sheriff Joe is right. That's the main problem here - the illegal aliens are wrong, and Sheriff Joe is ALSO WRONG. He's not wrong in wanting to rid the county of illegal aliens, but his METHODS are VERY wrong. That's the problem that most of us have with him. Sheriff Joe is wrong in his METHODS; he's wrong in assertion that he can do whatever he wants - outside of the law - because his CAUSE is the right cause. Well, this is America, and it doesn't work like that.; January 16, 2010 at 9:44 PM
Anonymous said...: Sheriff Joe is upholding our immigration laws....something everyone else is afraid to do!
What part of illegal do they not understand? Illegal is illegal.; January 16, 2010 at 9:45 PM
Anonymous said...: "Sheriff Joe is doing what EVERYONE else is afraid to - go after those who break our laws." Have you ever watched the news? You're insulting every law enforcement officer in the country.

Seriously, don't you think just about everyone would be a criminal if they knew that the only person in the country, the world, the universe, who enforces the law is Joe Arpaio? A hairdresser beat him up and he had to call the police you know. It was on the news.

Maybe someday, you'll have to have a license to get on the Internet- and take a test. Post while you can!!!!; January 16, 2010 at 9:57 PM
Anonymous said...: You talk about Sheriff Joe skirting the laws - what about the Mexicans that trape across the border in droves? They aren't "skirting the law" - they are BREAKING the law. I totally support Sheriff Joe for upholding the laws and trying to enforce the law, inspite of the insipid attacks by KPHO, unentitled illegal immigrants and their supporters like Mary Jo Wilcox and the like. Illegal immigrants have no civil rights in this country. They are not entitled to be here. And, please, point out to me another illegal immigrant group in this country that marched and demanded their rights. Being in this country is a privilege - not a right. We are a land created by immigrants. Point out to me where we have every sign in every store, government office, restaurant, etc., in German, Frnch, Swedish, Russion, Chinese, Italian, Japanese, etc. What do the illegal immigrants contribut? Cheap labor, drugs, criminals, 12 people living in a 2-bedroom house, hospital emergency rooms filled with their sick families, car accidents with no insurance or driver's license, human trafficking, and jails that are full. We all pay for this with our taxes. What do they expect in return? Every thing. Not only do they expect it, they demand it. They are entitled to it. And if they don't get it, they whine and cry about their rights being violated, profiling, marching, blah, blah, blah. They are not entitled. No other illegal immigrant group in the history of the United States has behaved like the current illegal immigrants have behaved. Too bad they don't put all this "unity and energy" into fixing their own country. I'm a democrat and have never voted for a Republican in my life...until Sheriff Joe. And, I will vote for him everytime he runs for the office...because he enforces the law and keeps Phoenix from being run over by illegal aliens - like Juarez and Tiajana.; January 16, 2010 at 10:03 PM
Anonymous said...: I LOVE the fact that Sheriff Joe takes the bull by the horns and ENFORCES THE LAW as it should be. If you are illegal, this is NOT YOUR HOME as it is in other countries. This is our country. If I went to Mexico and I was there without a passport and I get caught without one I go to jail for a minimum of 2 yrs mandatory. The jails there are hell, One room packed full of people, you desicreat on the floor, it is total filth. I WISH Sheriff Joe, and he should be, Head of HOME LAND SECURITY. All of our boarders would be looked down and we would be alot safer. If all jails were like his, Criminals wouldn't want to go back in. When you violate someone else's rights ( MURDER, RAPE and ROBBERY ) YOU loose all of your rights. Also the same goes for Our Immigration Laws. If you don't respect our LAWS get out of our country. BE HERE LEGALLY OR NOT AT ALL. One more thing. Back in the old west we had a hanging judge, JUDGE ROY BEAN, he made a historic statement saying " TODAY WE HAVE JUSTICE,TOMORROW WE'LL HAVE LAW " Wish we had the justice, as our prisons wouldn't be full of criminals as they would have died 30 days after conviction. It would be cheaper on the tax payer and the crime would be way down. Now wouldn't it. ILLEGALS commit a lot of crimes, WHY? so they can stay here.; January 16, 2010 at 10:36 PM
Anonymous said...: To Anonymous Above....great post! Too bad KPHO never reports about all of the support for Sheriff Joe. Apparently, they have no legitimate reporters at that station that know how to deliver balanced reporting. Just a lot of "celebrity" news anchors.; January 16, 2010 at 10:42 PM
J.W. Simms. said...: It is the firm belief of many, whom were in attendance today at Falcon park during the immigration protest, that the Phoenix police department was clearly abusing the power of their authority in the use of pepper spray, in particular" the receipt of pepper spray in the face of a TWO YEAR OLD CHILD!!! and several other innocent victims. Also there is intense debate concerning what appears to be unlawful arrest issues and issues of possible Racial profiling due to the fact that those arrested appeared to be of the caucasian ethnicity. All though being a white person attending a predominately Hispanic" protest rally, in and of itself is not a criminal offence, it could lend oneself to the ever present issue of Racial profiling by law enforcement.Please join myself and hopefully KPHO in calling for a full Federal investigation into abuse of power allegations concerning Phoenix P.D. Thank! you. J.W. Simms.; January 16, 2010 at 10:42 PM
Anonymous said...: I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WHAT THE SHERIFF IS DOING. I THANK HIM FOR DOING HIS JOB AS A LOT OF US DO. IT'S BECOMING SAFER OUT THERE. LOOK AT THE DECLINE OF THE MEXICAN GANGS THAT WERE SWAMPING THE PHOENIX AREA FROM MEXICO. PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A RALLY IN SUPPORT OF THE SHERIFF NOT AGAINST HIM. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS THAT LIVE HERE AND SUPPORT HIM. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM DOWNTOWN OR AT THE CAPITOL. LETS FACE IT THE ONLY ONES AGAINST HIM ARE THE ILLEGALS AND THE CRIMINALS BECAUSE HE LOCATES THEM. ILLEGALS DO NOT HAVE ANY RIGHTS HERE.; January 16, 2010 at 11:27 PM
Anonymous said...: Sheriff Joe has more supporters than opponents and we show it by voting for him in every election. As long as he runs, I will continue to vote for him.; January 16, 2010 at 11:39 PM
Anonymous said...: To J.W. Simmons - So, everytime the City of Phoenix P.D. or the Maricopa County Sheriff's Department enforces the law you think it's abuse of power? What about the mounted officer that was performing crowd control and was hit with sticks along with the horse? Our taxes are paying all of the officers that had to perform crowd control today, for this idiotic "march" for unentitled, illegal immigrants', non-existant rights. Racial profiling? At a predominantly Mexican march for illegal immigrants? Give me a break!! What a twisted mind you have. No, I won't be joing you, or KPHO (the most biased "news" station), in any frivolous, and unwarranted Federal investigation into abuse of power.; January 16, 2010 at 11:50 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Way to go JOE

No we don't need any workers from Mexico. The number of Americans without jobs is higher than the number of Americans without jobs during the last great depression. Why would we want legal immigrants from Mexico when we don't have enough jobs for the Americans citizens in this country?

Other than the third world workers from Mexico, the only ones who want the modern day slaves to come here is the rich who don't want to pay a fare wage. No American compete with the wages these immigrants are willing to work for. Why? Because most Americans don't have twenty of their friends and distant family members living in one three bed room house, that's why. STOP all immigrant workers legal or not, is what Washington should be doing. But until the majority takes control of our rich controlled government, we will have legal and allowed illegal immigration. If Washington allows immigration to continue here, when there is not enough work here for Americans, maybe then the majority will realize who really runs this country.

This is America and the American’s country, not Mexico’s or the Mexicans that come here expecting free food, medical care and housing. No, they have no rights or nothing coming.

TO ALL OF MEXICO’S MAJORITY
Stay home and fix your corrupt government. WE DON’T WANT OR NEED YOU!!!!; January 17, 2010 at 5:19 AM
The United Majority of America/Mark Gasser said...: I DARE THE SYSTEM

A word to the feds.
When and if you succeed in arresting the only politician in this country that is for the majority and not for the rich ran systems that controls you all. You will most likely have a revolution on your hands.

Joe has supporters in all 50 states. The majority has eyes open wider than ever before. Thanks to you raising fuel prices to over four dollars a gallon a couple years back. So you could make more fuel tax to pay for your wars and so you could make your oil bosses more money. When oil companies were bragging about record profits. Then you lower the price of fuel to under two dollars a gallon, after you realized what your greed did, and opened the majorities eyes. Hoping we would close our eyes to your ways lol. TOO LATE, our eyes are permanently open. To the mileage our same American cars get over seas, solar and other energy sources that will put your oil bosses out of business, and to why you allow the modern day slave to come here illegally. Your desperate rally to give immigrants rights to come here when there is not enough work for American citizens. Thanks to you allowing all our jobs to be sent over seas. Go ahead and try to get rid of Joe. I DARE YOU!!!!

A word to the majority
“Be all we can be, the United majority of America”

Source of facts: Permanently opened eyes; January 17, 2010 at 6:06 AM
Anonymous said...: Piss on the constitution, abuse your power, and create a cult of dumb dittos head retards to do your bidding. Sounds like the demented world of Joe. Same duck, same quack, same retardedness.; January 17, 2010 at 7:15 AM
Jimmy S - Chandler said...: The MCSO is filled with mean vindictive people who like to do mean things to other people no matter what the criminal status is. I would not trust any of those people there any farther than I could throw their fat asses.; January 17, 2010 at 7:37 AM
Anonymous said...: Joe pisses on the constitution?

Why are the ones in the Federal government calling the Constitution out dated and want to change it? Because we have a Constitution that gives the majority the right to fire any politician with a two thirds vote, that's why. Even though to date we don't use that right. But the feds actions are going to change that, Mark my words. It is not Joe you should worry about, it's the feds that want Joe and our constitution out.; January 17, 2010 at 7:38 AM
Mark Gasser said...: To Jimmy S - Chandler

I take it the MCSO is the only police department you ever dealt with. Try dealing with the corruption in Sheboygan County WI. Their corruption makes the MCSO look like angels. There may be some evil ran police here, but trust me, there are far worse out there. I’ll take Joe and his deputies over a new sheriff that most likely will fall to the money ran systems any day. The American invasion by Mexico is going to hurt more American’s than any other issue out there. Joe is the only one I know fighting to stop it. No we don’t need legal or illegal immigrants in our country. There is not enough work here for Americans already. Yes our rich want the modern day slaves here to make them bigger profits, but Joe and the majority does not.; January 17, 2010 at 8:21 AM
Anonymous said...: It is really funny that the MCSO pays guys like Mark Gas fart here to post propaganda all day. Don't worry you'll soon be out of a job.; January 17, 2010 at 8:33 AM
Rob Wiezwicz - Phoenix AZ said...: Joe is the only one? I doubt that he is even doing what you say he is. He is just another clown who likes the posing during press conferences. If you check the facts you'll see that the Phoenix PD and DPS make far more arrests of illegals than the MCSO. DPS and the Phoenix PD also do their arrests per proper procedures. Phoenix PD and the DPS also won't harass the innocent just because they happen to be brown skinned citizens.; January 17, 2010 at 9:15 AM
Anonymous said...: Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is the only law enforcement individual that is upholding the law. We need him and more like him. When is it right to allow illegal immigrants to wander into the US without recriminations? When my family came over from Canada we had to come through the legal system and then when we arrived we had to learn English in order to become citizens, no English, no citizenship, we didn't have a choice to keep speaking our language of French, why do we now give others the option? When was the US not a country that spoke English, I never saw a sign in French, ingredients in French on store packages, or a button to press that said I could speak with someone in French and I know this goes for any other nationality like German and Italian, etc.

People that are not legal cannot expect to be treated as such. You do the crime you pay. I pray that Sheriff Joe Arpaio continues his work and gets more people to help him out, let's clean up Arizona and perhaps we won't have so much crime around and it will then be a safer place for our children and grandchildren.

Thank you, Sheriff Joe Arpaio!!!!!; January 17, 2010 at 9:19 AM
Anonymous said...: We LOVE Sheriff Joe and we VOTE him in
OVER and OVER so he will keep the thieves,
rapers, killers, drug dealers, free-loaders,
and other ne'er-do-wells from Mexico OUT OF HERE !

And how clever is HE to play Linda Ronstadt's
music to the inmates while she is protesting
against the Sheriff - that is priceless !

She should stay in her own county and mind her own business, but of course - being Hispanic -
a former 'beauty' and musician, she was talked into this by others of her race. AS if
her appearance is going to influence OBAMA,
and/or convince the rest of Maricopa County NOT
to vote him in (again?).

GET REAL !

If you brown people are SO unhappy here....
the MOVE...we hear Texas is a better economy
and welcoming your kind ! And it's only a
drive away !

So, Adios ?; January 17, 2010 at 9:37 AM
Mark GASSER said...: To the illegal anonymous who wrote,
Mark Gas fart

Thank you, you proved the immaturity and intelligence of your kind. Another reason Joe will arrest you one day. Yes you should be scared and ready to get the heck out of here.; January 17, 2010 at 9:45 AM
REALITY said...: Bullshit! Who is paying you guys to post this drivel? Seriously! Joe is not doing anything to curb illegal immigration other than just being a pain in the ass. Read the Goldwater institutes report. The Goldwater report is written by a conservative institution not the liberal rags. You guys need to pull your heads out of Joe's ass.; January 17, 2010 at 9:48 AM
Mark Gasser said...: Evidence from Goldwater Institute

Here is some evidence of the American invasion by Mexico. This is why Joe is against building a four hundred million dollar unneeded new court house. Yes his departments needs and should receive more money to fight this invasion.

Goldwater Institute says,

When two Phoenix police officers stopped a man and two women for jay walking in September 2007, a confrontation ensued and Officer Nick Erfle was shot and killed. Erfle was 33 years old, the father of two young children, and had just overcome a battle with cancer. The man suspected of killing him, Erik Martinez, was an illegal immigrant who had previously been deported. Notably, he was the subject of an outstanding felony warrant for aggravated assault.

Can you Joe bashers understand why Joe arrests and deports any illegal he can? If only the Federal government would keep it’s end of the bargain up and stop the illegals that freely walk across our boarders. You go Joe, save as many lives as you can, even though you can’t save them all.

May God bless Officer Nick Erfle and his family. And give Joe the power and money it will take to stop this invasion.

source of facts: Goldwater Institute; January 17, 2010 at 9:50 AM
Anonymous said...: To anonymous who says,
Read the Goldwater Institute,

I did, look up ok.; January 17, 2010 at 9:53 AM
Anonymous said...: I am not a Joe Basher. I believe in the constitution and upholding the law of the land. What I don't like is Bullshit and Joe is full of it. Joe is also an opportunist and a bigot. He only cares about himself and using his power for his own benefit. He needs to go so that the state of Arizona can save itself more embarrassment and future petty expensive lawsuits.; January 17, 2010 at 9:53 AM
Mark Gasser said...: to anonymous above who claims not to be a Joe basher.

If you are not, what the heck was thay you just said?; January 17, 2010 at 9:58 AM
Mark Gasser said...: Got to run. Want to see Farve kick some Dallass butt. If you turn on 5, you will see their true colors. It one big commercial lol but true.; January 17, 2010 at 10:11 AM
Anonymous said...: Mark should be happy. He finally has a blog board where posting his rants and raves about illegals IS the topic!

I agree with the basic theme of these comments that the situation with the illegals is out of control and needs to be dealt with and fast!

I disagree with the thought that Joe is really having much of an impact on illegal immigration. He just talks a big talk for the cameras. When he needs to send 30 officers in to arrest 3 janitors, you know it's for show, and a huge waste of money.

Beyond that, Joe is a corrupt politician, and not a law enforcement officer at all. I don't despise Joe because of his view on illegals. It's every other dirty thing he does that makes me despise him.

And quit saying "we" voted for him. I sure as hell didn't!; January 17, 2010 at 12:10 PM
Anonymous said...: I guess Joe lets Mark take time off from posting to watch football. Maybe Joe will give him a purdy sheriff's posse badge for posting his rants who knows.; January 17, 2010 at 1:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Officer Erfle was doing is job. Joe isn't. Stop besmirching the name of Erfle. Do you know whether he was a Joe supporter? Until you get permission from his widow- please don't mention him again.

I know it's easier than dealing with facts, but you yourself complained that the report is 20 pages long. You have only mentioned a small part of it (repeatedly), and have failed to point out a single factual error. And we all know your opinion, Gasser et al. It takes actual work to do research and report facts- so spare us your ignorance.

When you can prove (that is, cite sources) for your information, why don't you inform us then? You've got nothing!!!! Ha! This might explain why you didn't graduate from college- you have to do homework, and not just scribble your ignorant opinions. The homework is checked, then you have to pass exams. Lots of us have not graduated from college and are articulate, and informed. What's your excuse?

What sort of egomaniac claims to represent the majority with no facts to back that up? Aston Kutcher represents more people than you, and he can prove it. But who cares what he thinks? Get real, get a grip!

Your dishonesty is pathetic. Your dishonesty with yourself, even more so.; January 17, 2010 at 4:11 PM
Theodore E Pride(Mesa,AZ) said...: I think the Sherrif is conservatively racist and really never meant to help those illegal immigrants. I certainly concur.; January 17, 2010 at 4:36 PM
J.W. Simms. said...: To J.W. Simmons - So, everytime the City of Phoenix P.D. or the Maricopa County Sheriff's Department enforces the law you think it's abuse of power? What about the mounted officer that was performing crowd control and was hit with sticks along with the horse? Our taxes are paying all of the officers that had to perform crowd control today, for this idiotic "march" for unentitled, illegal immigrants', non-existant rights. Racial profiling? At a predominantly Mexican march for illegal immigrants? Give me a break!! What a twisted mind you have. No, I won't be joing you, or KPHO (the most biased "news" station), in any frivolous, and unwarranted Federal investigation into abuse of power.

I don't recall mentioning anything about MCSO and racial profiling. The point of the post was!! that Phoenix P.D. seemed to pick out what appeared to be five white people out of a sea of Mexicans for selective arrest in a display of the power they held over the crowd. Whether these five were actually being disruptive, is as far as I know at this time, only on the word of Phoenix P.D. Would you expect the police to arrest five Mexicans, in a display of power, out of a crowd of ten thousand!! hell no, that would be suicidal, hence the possibility of Racial profiling and also some civil rights violations. If the MCSO can be accused of Racially profiling Mexicans, then the Phoenix P.D. can be accused of Racially profiling whites. Fair is fair. J.W. Simms.; January 17, 2010 at 5:29 PM
Anonymous said...: Sherrif Joe is awsome. Let the man do his job. Anyone who would think than anyone would be in a position like his just to aggravate and abuse power is an idiot.; January 17, 2010 at 5:35 PM
Anonymous said...: KPHO doesn't seem to understand what the word ILLEGAL means. It means what you have done by coming to the US ILLEGALLY is a crime. You interviewed someone saying sheriff Joe has abused the illegals rights. ARE YOU NUTS. What about my rights as a 26 year taxpayer in Arizona. What about the my government tax $$$ in Maricopa County and Arizona that are spent on ILLEGALS.
Doug; January 17, 2010 at 5:39 PM
Anonymous said...: It is not surprising that protesters who march to allow for laws to be broken would break the law themselves. Much like Mary Rose Wilcox, how can one expect her to follow the law when she supports violation of the law. It is good to see the protesters as who they are.; January 17, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Anonymous said...: I am tiring of KPHO begining their newscast publisizing the investigation of the allegations on Sheriff Joe. The slant of the reporting is sooooooo obvious it's laughable. To spend almost 8 minutes of a half hour newscast (with 8 minutes of commercials) on a unsettled matter is too much. I started watching Channel 5 with Catherine came back to the valley, but I'm tiring of the bias reporting. Time to turn off the TV.; January 17, 2010 at 5:59 PM
Anonymous said...: Goldwater Institute: "It is difficult to assess precisely how well MCSO is fulfilling its core law enforcement function, largely because MCSO’s record-keeping is inadequate and
inaccurate."

This defines the nature of Arpaio's support, does it not? His supporters say he's doing a great job. Based on what, one wonders- his own PR? He wouldn't need to spend anything on PR or mug for the cameras if he were actually doing what he's supposed to do. It is evident from many of the posts here that some of his supporters idolize him, writing him love letters and poems for all to read. Man- that is sad.; January 17, 2010 at 6:03 PM
Anonymous said...: Sheriff Joe isn't doing anything that other law enforcement agencies are not doing other than being very public about it.

"Probable Cause" for any law enforcement agency runs from a broken tail light lens to a cracked windshield, to speeding, or a lane change without using a turn signal. Law enforcement does NOT profile but maybe they should, Illegal is Illegal no matter how you cut it.

I think CBS Channel 5 needs to back off and take another look at the good things Sheriff Joe is doing for Maricopa County. You may not like his attitude or his nose for publicity, but you've got to like his modus operandi for stopping any and all vehicles or persons for whom probable cause has become a legal reason for a stop.

We all know Mary Rose Wilcox is "Dirty" especially the way she knowingly destroyed historical buildings. Don Stapley, who knows, let's allow the Grand Jury to do their work on Stapley.

Maybe CBS 5 needs to find out how many illegals are released back into the community by ICE or the Border Patrol because "They haven't committed a crime involving a victim". Excuse Me but I am a victim when Illegals are allowed to get free medical and almost anything they want while I work my butt off just to make ends meet.

I work for law enforcement other than MCSO and I can't tell you how many times ICE, the Border Patrol and others have either refused to come when we have Illegals contained, or let illegals go "because it's a victim-less crime" to come to the USA illegally.

Come on CBS 5, check Mary Rose Wilcox, Don Stapley, and the other agencies mentioned here if you want some REAL stories.... or are you afraid the Fed's will come down on you for telling the REAL truth about the federal agencies and how they allow so many thousands of illegals to go free......; January 17, 2010 at 6:03 PM
J.W. Simms. said...: I feel at this time, that I must go on the record and attest to the fact that I fully support sheriff Joe Arpaio and his views on illegal immigration and political corruption in the state of Arizona. Also I fully support Mark Gasser and his views on the same issues. I cannot however support KPHO and their apparent ( pro illegal immigration ) views or their apparent lack of interest in political corruption in the state of Arizona. In all honesty though I must applaud KPHO for setting up this web site and allowing these blogs to take place. Clap-clap-clap. J.W. Simms.; January 17, 2010 at 6:05 PM
Anonymous said...: To Doug, the 26 year old taxpayer in Arizona...Your ancestors arrive in 1492 or later with the pilgrims, ILLEGALLY of course....And then created rules, laws and regulations, that would ultimately favor Caucasians and will automatically oppresses any other race..Are you with me so far?, Accept one thing, you are ignorant and you need to go back to educate yourself, about how your ancestors came and took what was not theirs and now have you looking stupid, defending bigots like Joe Arpaio and Andrew Thomas..., USA is a beautiful diverse place where even idiots like you have rights....quote " He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it, is really cooperating with it. " Martin Luther King JR.....From a Latino...; January 17, 2010 at 6:35 PM
Anonymous said...: J.W. Simms: "I feel at this time, that I must go on the record and attest to the fact that I fully support sheriff Joe Arpaio and his views on illegal immigration and political corruption in the state of Arizona." No, really? And Mark Gasser, too? Wow!

So you're in favor of political corruption. Okay. Well, let the record reflect that you disclosed your views. The people of the world thank you.

Maybe the feds will stop caring about Joe's abuses of his office now. At least you can spell. I don't know if anyone's told you that the problem isn't that there's a lot of support for illegal immigration (though your hero makes a lot of noise about it). It's just that quite a lot of people think that the sheriff should obey the law, all the laws. There are quite a few who think he should stop wasting the taxpayer's money too.

Good thing we don't have a Sheriff who just does his job and doesn't mug for the cameras every day. It would be hard to support someone like that, wouldn't it?

"It is difficult to assess precisely how well MCSO is fulfilling its core law enforcement function, largely because MCSO’s record-keeping is inadequate and inaccurate." But that's a good thing, right?; January 17, 2010 at 6:37 PM
Rich Teadwill - Apache Junction said...: If Joe was such a good sheriff he would not need people on here 24/7 trying to sell the stinky MCSO policies. If the MCSO and the sheriff had not been so arrogant they would not need defenders. They must have some shitty and rather dense public relations idiots on the payroll. Having said that, there are at least a dozen sheriffs around this great nation, in huge population centers who don't crave the attention this sheriff does. Other sheriffs just go about their daily routine and DO THEIR JOBS. I can't imagine a sheriff in say Los Angeles coming out every day and telling the public about some silly roundup or deadbeats who don't pay their child support. Do I like deadbeat Dads or illegals? No. Do I want to have some law enforcement official who believe he is more important than he is telling me about what a great job he is doing day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after. No really. Will I be glad when the current buffoon is gone? Absolutely!; January 17, 2010 at 6:48 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: JW Simms,

I don't know how you draw the conclusion that Channel 5 KPHO is "pro illegal immigration". I think that, like all of the other channels, they are reporting the news that is important to us, the viewers/readers.

Yes, they have an ongoing blog. So do many other sites. I got in an arguement with a guy in Houston TX a few days ago about Joe.

I really respect Ch 5 for allowing us to have ongoing conversation about a very controversial character, our very own Shurff Joe, love him or hate him. I personally despise him. You may or may not feel differently.

But the bottom line is that we, as MC residents, have the opportunity to discuss what is really important here, and that is what Joe does and/or does not do. And we are never going to agree, as a community, whether Joe is a good guy or a bad guy. I personally think he's a bad guy, but that has nothing to do with his stance on illegal immigration, which I think is a topic that is long past it's expiration date and is starting to stink up the kitchen. We need to find a way to get the illegals out of here - no doubt. I don't know what the answer is there.

But, setting that ONE issue aside, I have watched Joe and his goons closely since moving here in 1998. My first recollection was MCSO arresting Joe Arizona or Arizona Joe - whatever - for "impersonating a law enforcement officer" wearing pink boxers and and brown shirt. My first thought was "well, I'm new here. This must be some kind of joke and I just don't get it." I eventually figured out that Joseph M. Arpiao abusing the powers of his office is NO JOKE! I started paying more attention, not so much to the headlines, as this blog is about, but to what Joe really represents. And I don't like what I see. As much as I, like most other US Citizens and Maricopa County Residents, do NOT want the illegal Mexicans here, I cannot support Joe Arpaio simply because he SAYS he is tough on illegals. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak.

Take the illegals OUT OF THE PICTURE and look at everything else that Joseph M. Arpaio represents and ask yourself if you can truly stand behind his lack of integrity, ethics, intelligence and fiscal responsibility.

I think you will draw the conclusion that you can NOT, if you are willing to be honest.; January 17, 2010 at 6:52 PM
Anonymous said...: Laws were meant to be followed, not to be select-ably adhere to or enforced when ever it is convenient for Fat ass Joe and his step son Andrew...They were elected to serve the people not their best interest....Joe and Andrew must be thrown out of power, they are an embarrassment to the county...; January 17, 2010 at 6:59 PM
Anonymous said...: KPHO, you are doing a great job on keeping it real about dumb ass Joe and his step son Andrew..; January 17, 2010 at 7:17 PM
Anonymous said...: I am getting real sick and tired of hearing about how Joe is a criminal and all the other slams against this great man. Sheriff Joe Arpaio is the only and last true man that is in power in this country.

We have all these left wing idiots who are so scared to get punched in the face, so they turn their backs to the issues and needs of this country. Is all they are after is fame and corruption. We need all political and officers of power to take a first hand look at Joe and copy every dang move he does.

Why is this country so worried about the rights and feelings of ILLEGAL IMIGRANTS and theri families. They are ILLEGAL. There is a certain process in which needs to be completed correctly before you get into this country. Yeah, you guys cry and run over here because apparently Mexico is a terrible place. If it is so terrible, why then do you hold loyaltyt to this terrible country once you are here. If you love Mexico so much, stay the hell out of America and until you dogs can act like humans, Sheriff Joe is our Dog catcher and he will continue cathing you.

My forefathers came to this country and fought with blood, pride, and honor to give my family, and my countrymen the rights that we can enjoy today. Blood and tears was the price to pay for freedom. I say that if the Mexicans want freedom, bring on the war. Lets just line up and arm all military and minutemen forces accross the border with a shoot to kill command. If you make it past.... you are free. If you dont.... who cares anyway?

Also, once you are here and are a citizen, stop with all your poverty and violence. Americans are a proud people. Not a dirty, filthy, and uneducated people. Learn english, get a job, and clean up after yourselves... Is that to much to ask. Once again, we are humans, not dogs. I have always and will always vote for Sheriff Joe Arpaio. GO JOE!!!!!!!; January 17, 2010 at 7:32 PM
I'm with stupid..... said...: TALK ABOUT ABUSIVE POWERS, THERE'S A WHOLE LIST, TRY THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IN WASH DC, ACLU, & ALL THE GROUPS THAT SUPPORT ILLEGALS. SHERIFF JOE SHOULD OF DONE HIS CRIME SWEEP TODAY, SENDING ALL WALKING BACK TO MEXICO! NO AMNESTY, PURE BULL....

This part kind of mad me chuckle,

"TALK ABOUT ABUSIVE POWERS"

Abusive Powers? What does that even mean if you take the words literally? Are you trying to say ABUSE OF POWER? I wonder how many little Mexican American kids can speak write the English language better than you.

SENDING ALL WALKING BACK TO MEXICO!

So you want to send all people in Maricopa County back to Mexico? Oh never mind........; January 17, 2010 at 7:38 PM
Anonymous said...: Long live the King, Martin Luther King jr; January 17, 2010 at 7:49 PM
Anonymous said...: The guy above said,

"My forefathers came to this country and fought with blood, pride, and honor to give my family, and my countrymen the rights that we can enjoy today. Blood and tears was the price to pay for freedom."

So your forefathers came here illegally from Europe? What if I am a native American and I want all of you illegal Europeans to go back to Europe? What do you say to that pale face?; January 17, 2010 at 7:51 PM
Anonymous said...: Who were your forefather fighting?, was it the Native Americans who are now limited to a reservation and to adhering to the imposed laws by your forefathers....USA is a beautiful place, I love my country USA...Go back to your hick place of birth...; January 17, 2010 at 7:58 PM
Anonymous said...: I'm still waiting for someone to show me a factual error in the Goldwater Report about how Sheriff Joe is (not) doing his job. All this talk about forefathers, and illegal aliens is entertaining, but it misses the point of this blog and of the federal investigation for that matter.

I'm sure there are plenty of other places to debate the pros and cons of immigration. Nobody has said that illegal immigration is legal. But Joe's supporters know that (well, maybe I am giving too much credit). I guess they don't have any real facts to explain why they deify this man, so they try to change the subject to anything else. People have made gods of pieces of wood too, and they have proved just as useless.

Just because someone wants to see proof of performance does not make him a bad person, or a traitor. Why do Joe's drones find it so hard to respond to a simple question with a pertinent answer? I can think of a few reasons, but none of them are good.; January 17, 2010 at 8:26 PM
Anonymous said...: Some of the posts above keep stating that Sheriff Joe breaks the law and abuses his power. Please....give me some examples.; January 17, 2010 at 8:33 PM
Anonymous said...: Actual, real, verifiable examples.; January 17, 2010 at 8:33 PM
Anonymous said...: The first ILLEGAL in the continent of America was of Italian descent, which happens to be Fat ass Joe's descendants, How odd the Italian language happens to have a lot of similarities with the "español" language, maybe because is a derivative of "Latin" Definition: "is an Italic language originally spoken in Latium and Ancient Rome, Italy. It seems to me Joe is persecuting his own heritage...He is just not proud of being Latin...Therefore I will call him JUDAS, who also sold out Jesus...; January 17, 2010 at 8:41 PM
Anonymous said...: If I can recall correctly, there was only one idiot against the over 10,000 people protesting against the bigot "fat ass Joe" yesterday...We were Latinos, Caucasian, Native Americans, Asians, African Americans, etc....Where were the rest of the people that would support this lonely guy?; January 17, 2010 at 9:00 PM
Anonymous said...: To Anonymous 8:26 PM.......I'm still waiting for someone to provide me with a factual, verifiable example of Sheriff Joe's flaunting of the law. You miss the point. The reason he is re-elected is because he enforces the law. And, especially the laws regarding our borders. When you enter our country illegally, (i.e. unlawful; against the law; prohibited; unsanctioned; forbidden; banned; illicit; unauthorized, etc.), you do not deserve nor are you entitled to stay here. You deserve to be returned to your country so that you can have the opportunity to persue entry in the lawful manner prescribed.

More people than I realized support Sheriff Joe, as do I. More people than I realized are enraged about the invasion of illegal Mexicans. And, there are no amount of "reasons" why the current immigration laws should be waived just for them. I say illegal "Mexicans" because they are the only group that feel they are entitled to enter our country without documentation. No other country is awarded this privilege. No other country. Especially, during the current climate of terrorism.

And, as far as the comment above about Officer Nick Erfle "just doing his job"....I'm astounded! The fact that he was killed by an illegal Mexican that kept entering this country over and over again is not only tragic, but puts a glaring light on why most citizens of Maricopa County want the immigration laws enforced.

Sheriff Joe would not be in front of the cameras so often if KPHO and the Arizona Republic weren't bashing him all the time. Some reporter is usually sticking a microphone in front of him asking him to comment on the latest allegation. He responds.

We are a country governed by laws - not religion or culture. I support Sheriff Joe and any other law enforcement agency that enforces the law.; January 17, 2010 at 9:01 PM
When the mighty fall said...: I'm still waiting for someone to provide me with a factual, verifiable example of Sheriff Joe's flaunting of the law.

DON'T WORRY! THE FEDERAL GRAND JURY IS WORKING ON THAT! ENJOY THE INDICTMENT!; January 17, 2010 at 9:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Let us remember Martin Luther King jr, on 18 January, 2010....Civil Rights will forever prevail...God Bless USA....; January 17, 2010 at 9:37 PM
Lube or no Lube said...: Some guy above said,

"Some of the posts above keep stating that Sheriff Joe breaks the law and abuses his power. Please....give me some examples."

Hmm, there are so many, okay.

He had deputies park in front of Terry Goddards house to intimidate him. He investigated the county supervisors who opposed him and cut his budget during this painful recession. The list goes on and on.

Tell your buddy Joe to get his pert butthole ready cause the fed is getting ready to ram it home real good!; January 17, 2010 at 9:38 PM
Anonymous said...: "I'm still waiting for someone to provide me with a factual, verifiable example of Sheriff Joe's flaunting of the law." Nice try- but you're a little late.

Man, some people don't watch or read the news. And when they see it, they refuse to acknowledge it. And if they acknowledge it, they change the definition of "flaunting of the law".

It's beside the point anyway. Nobody has pointed out a factual error in the Goldwater Report, and they won't. They can't- so they just keep changing the subject. No amount of PR propaganda is going to forestall the prosecution of the (current) sheriff. The sooner that happens, the sooner these ignoramuses will crawl back into their holes (or go to their white supremacist meetings and leave decent society alone).

"Sheriff Joe would not be in front of the cameras so often if KPHO and the Arizona Republic weren't bashing him all the time." That's ridiculous! So you have a persecution complex for the toughest sheriff in the universe? Why do you imagine that he's being singled out? It's a rhetorical question- I have learned not to expect a reasoned answer from these drones or paid PR people.; January 17, 2010 at 9:39 PM
Anonymous said...: You make an interesting point. The White Supremacist retards see him as the second coming. Whether Joe likes that attention or not it is still sad. The White Supremacist guys want to repackage their product as "More Friendly." They say things like, "We are not against anyone born in the US. Just illegals." We all know that they want to divide and conquer. Start with the Mexicans, then the N*ggers, etc etc. They are still racists pushing the same crappy product, and now thanks to Joe Arpaio they have a hero they can admire in local government. Makes you sick to your stomach when you think about it. Sad.; January 17, 2010 at 10:38 PM
J.W. Simms. said...: For the poor pathetic, idiotic, stupidly insane, misguided fools who keep posting here, that our forefathers who migrated to here from other countries were somehow illegal immigrants who were breaking somebody's immigration laws. Are you completely nuts or just plain stupid? Do you seriously believe that when the Mayflower landed at Plymouth Rock,the Indians approached the pilgrims with a book of immigration laws and we told them to shove your laws up your ass, we're here to stay,hahahahahah.

No my poor uneducated skid-row antagonistic friends, when what would eventually become known as the " Americans " first came here from other lands, this was wide open country, free for the taking and boy did we take it. Just because the Indian was here first, did not mean that he owned the land, it just meant that he was here first. We gave the Indian every conceivable Chance to co-exist with the settlers of this great country, but! the Indian was greedy, for him it was all or nothing, we all know how well that worked out for the Indian people. So my pitiful pals, when this country was first being settled there was no such thing as immigration laws, thus no illegal immigrants. As a matter of fact, I believe it was as recently as the last few decades that the Mexican" invented the term ( illegal alien immigration ) J.W. Simms.; January 17, 2010 at 10:50 PM
Anonymous said...: I believe you are the silly one. If you read between the lines you'll see that the person who posted that was being sarcastic. Maybe that poster was just trying to make you think or contemplate a role reversal. Child psychology, obviously lost on you.....; January 17, 2010 at 10:53 PM
Anonymous said...: To Anonymous 10:38 - - - You may want to re-think your name calling ("white supremicist", "racist", "N*ggers"). You sound so uneducated that no one would take your "arguments" seriously. Just a bunch of rants from someone that can't participate in a reasoned debate.; January 17, 2010 at 11:15 PM
Anonymous said...: J.W. Simms- that you resort to name-calling speaks volumes. Congratulations on being the first to mention the Mayflower in a thread about the performance of the Sheriff's duties! It's as good a point as any you've made- nice try at changing the subject yet again.

Do you get paid to post here? A simple yes or no will do- no need to try to change the subject.

You're obviously quite an amateur history buff- do you think you can find a thread that is on that topic all by yourself?; January 17, 2010 at 11:23 PM
Anonymous said...: J.W. Simms: Do Mommy and Daddy know you're playing with their computer?; January 17, 2010 at 11:27 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: To the blogger(s) who are looking for some examples of what Joe Arpaio and his thugs are doing that has caused them to be under intense scrutiny by those of us willing to look beyond the illegal immigration issue, try this on:

During the original attempt at prosecuting Stapley for some vague misconduct counts (152 of them, I think, all of which were dismissed) it was decided that Andrew Thomas and his office could not prosecute Stapley AND represent him as the official legal counsel to the BOS. The MCAO turned the prosecution over to the Yavapi County Attorney's Office. CA Shiela Polk spent 6 months reviewing the charges and declined to prosecute. David Henderschot complained to Chief CA of Yavapi County Dennis McGrane, threatening to "publicize incompetency in the Yavapi County Attorney's Office" if McGrane did not force Polk to comply with the Sheriff's wishes. McGrane responded by informing Henderschot that "the grand jury summons REQUIRES KNOWLEDGE OF A CRIME. In other words, you don't use it to just poke around" to see if you can dig up some dirt on someone.

Polk, and James Walsh of Pinal County, who attended another matter in which Thomas was found to be in conflict of interest and disqualified from pursuing charges, both wrote letters to the Arizona Republic expressing their concerns that the grand jury process was being abused.

Henderschot immediately filed a complaint against Polk with the FBI alledging miscarriage of her duties.

Furthermore, Arpaio sent deputies to the homes of county employees to question them (without warrants or summons) about county business activities. We're talking about clerical and administrative employees being harrassed at home without basis.

Clearly, if you don't squat when Joe (David) says "sh*t" they will use whatever intimidation tactics they find necessary to try to force compliance with their personal agendas / vendettas. These activities in no way benefit the safety of the citizens of Maricopa County.

These are just a couple of the many, many incidents that have occurred. Do you want me to list some more?; January 18, 2010 at 8:44 AM
Mark Gasser said...: Martin Luther King III
I wish that was me

The son of a King
What a great thing

I am not the wrong color
We were all his flower

He did not care about skin
What is right he tried to win

He did it without violence
His death beyond tolerance

His followers start a fight
The system sets their sight

Violence did explode
Anger they unload

I do not hate them
Can we blame them

They did as our system
Violence lets fist them

Yes the king was dead
Anger forgot what’s said

As the dust settles
There is no metals

The system with more
Blame him and the poor

Blame the King and the poor
No! His Dream God(and Joe) is still for; January 18, 2010 at 9:00 AM
J.W. Simms. said...: Liz F - North Phoenix, Heyyyyyy!!!! are you FAT MARY ROSE SUCKSCOX??; January 18, 2010 at 9:12 AM
Mark Gasser said...: If you click on my name, it will show you exactly who I am. And no, to your question?; January 18, 2010 at 9:19 AM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Mr. Simms -

Your reply speaks volumes of your intelligence.

If you can't come up with something smart to say, result to vulgar name calling and stupidity.

It is YOU that you have made a fool of, not ME.; January 18, 2010 at 9:42 AM
Anonymous said...: Attempting to place computer malware on another person's PC is a federal offence.; January 18, 2010 at 10:18 AM
Mark Gasser said...: to above anonymous,

really lol, thanks for proving your jealousy and ignorance all at once.; January 18, 2010 at 10:21 AM
Anonymous said...: "Attempting to place computer malware on another person's PC is a federal offence." Whom are you accusing of trying to do that? Or are you referring to the stupid posts of people who have pathetic verse instead of facts and love letters instead of intellect?; January 18, 2010 at 11:21 AM
Anonymous said...: To "Do you want me to list some more?" Yes, please list them all- though it won't matter to those who deify Joe. The rest of us like to be informed.; January 18, 2010 at 11:24 AM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Ok, to the Anonymous who said Yes, you want more examples. Here's another recent one.

To dovetail on my previous post, since no one in Yavapi or Pinal Counties would agree to continue prosecution against Stapley, Andrew Thomas, who lives in Joe Arpaio's back pocket, decided to hire high priced attorneys from Washington DC - at a cost of several hundred thousand dollars to the Maricopa County taxpayers. The BOS blocked the hiring on the grounds that MCAO had not gotten a spending authorization from the board. So, to court it goes, to be heard by Judge Gary Donahoe.

Gary Donahoe, you might recall, was already in Joe's sites because he had ordered Court Officer Stoddard, who was caught on tape removing documents from a public defender's file during a sentencing hearing, to publicly apologize to the attorney or be found in contempt of court. Joe would not HEAR of anyone calling a press conference (public apology) for the MCSO except himself, and of course, got his mug on TV to tell Donahoe that he (Donahoe) does not have the right or authority make those decisions. Stoddard goes to jail for contempt. The next day, 20 some MCSO court deputies call in sick to work, and there is a bomb threat made to the justice court building.

Ah, but I digress. Suddenly, the day before Gary Donahoe is supposed to rule on whether or not Maricopa County taxpayers will be forced to pick up the tab for some high priced East Coast high profile attornies to prosecute Stapley on charges that have already been turned down in Maricopa, Yavapi and Pinal Counties, SURPRISE! Gary Donahoe is arrested and charged with a bunch of vague obstruction and bribery charges. Candy Andy couldn't even explain what the charges were about. He said something about the new Court Tower and Donahoe would have a robe changing room there and that could be interpreted as a bribe of some sort.

No, actually, it was retaliation against Donahoe for finding Stoddard in contempt (and thereby usurping Joe's ULTIMATE AUTHORITY) and to make sure that Donahoe would not be able to say "NO" to us spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to continue Joe's spat with Stapley.

Now, remember, all of these people that Joe keeps arresting and charging have to hire attornies to defend them. Normally they would use the services of Andrew Thomas, but he's Joe Arpaio's puppet and the one filing the charges for Joe, so most likely not the best choice for your defense. Another funny thing about that, you know the charges against Wilcox for alledgedly failing to fully disclose her financial personal dealings? Guess who advised her on what needed to be included in her filing? Candy Andy's office. Guess who is prosecuting her for alledgedly not doing it correctly? Candy Andy's office.

Want more?; January 18, 2010 at 12:24 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: ...Continued: Now, you may say "that's all very interesting and probably not a good use of the powers of the sheriff's office or taxpayer money, but I don't see where it would be considered CRIMINAL".

The Department of Justice havs two Federal Statutes that address the criminality of this behavior, 18 USC 241 prevents anyone in law enforcement from "intimidating any person...in the free exercise of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States.

18 USC 242 states "Whoever, under color of law...willfully subjects any person...to the deprivation of any rights...protected by the Constitution...shall be imprisoned..."

You are all familiar, I'm sure, with the first book about Joe Arpaio (you know, the one he claims he hasn't read and denied accountability for the content in his deposition in the civil rights law suit being pursued against him and his office by Maricopa County citizens alleging to have been illegally detained in a 'crime suppression sweep'? Excellent video, by the way!) Well, the sequel to Joe's Law should be written by someone. It should be called "UNDER THE COLOR OF LAW: JOE'S LAW EXPOSED" and all detail his abuse of power.

Now, so far I've mostly discussed some highlights of the ugly politics going on here between politicians. I have to get to some other things for a while, but I'll probably come back later with some examples of normal, every day citizens being used for Joe's target practice.; January 18, 2010 at 1:13 PM
Anonymous said...: Liz- you're awesome! The truth will out! Thanks for sharing. I wonder why we haven't seen a post from the loud people who have no facts to back their opinions since your posting. Maybe they're beginning to see that they are making fools of themselves. The sooner the taxpayers have real law enforcement, the better. They pay for it, then get lawsuits in return.

But if we think that it's bad now, and it surely is- I can't wait to see what comes out about Joe's reign of malfeasance after he's booted from office!!!! That is probably part of the reason he's fighting so hard (for himself).; January 18, 2010 at 2:45 PM
Anonymous said...: It is an outrage that this march, to demand that our Sheriff be removed from office, is allowed to take place.

This is a group of people who, are supporting the Mexican Invasion. Many of these people are probably criminals at least by virtue of the fact that they are ILLEGAL ALIENS. (They use women in children in this march to hide behind. Then when something happens they will cry about the women and children. I knew when I was young that women and children should not be involved in this type of action).

These Mexican's attempting to intimidate, manipulate, and influence our government. We must not allow foreigners to do this. It is dangerous to the existing population.

Kpho and Cathrine Anaya are leading an attack against our Sheriff Joe Arpaio. They twist the news to suit their purpose. One example is that when criminals commit a crime and a witness see's them, very seldom if at all, does KPHO give a discription of the offenders. Why, because they are uaually Mexican's. And they do not want the public to get angry at the Mexican's.

I watched this happen in California. There was a news black out of Mexican crime from the late 1970's, on. The people in power did not want the public to be an up roar over the mass movement of crime a cross the south land.

KPHO is paid off businesses and corporations. They want the cheaper Mexican labor and the massive numbers of new consumers. It is a must to recognize who the supports are, and why they are doing the supporting.

KPHO, in a way, supports and ENCOURAGES, the illegal aliens, and or Mexican's, to march.

What we have going on in America is a war. Many of our representatives are aiding and abiding this. Corporations and business make pay offs, bribes to get their way. They control the news and information that we see and hear.

Sheriff Joe has a massive mess on his hands with Mexican crime. Just look a Laredo, TX. Crime which really is being lead by the Mexican Invasion. It is getting worse.

The Mexican government also encourages and supports this invasion; which call's for a declaration of war against Mexico, and those who are invading. We at least need Marshall law to eliminate the gangs, and illegal's.

All the crime, that we have become desensitized to over time, and by the news media, warrants Marshall Law. We never had, carjackings, home invasions, and kidnappings, massive movements of drugs, and illegal aliens. We must have Marshall Law until order is restored.

At stake is our land, IE., So. California has been almost completely taken over by Mexican's since 1987 Amnesty, our water; California has a massive water problem, they have shut down water to the San Joaquin Valley, a major food source for our country, because of the over population. A white person or black for that matter can't hardly get a job in construction or warehouse's. These things put our in country in danger, and our people in serious jeopardy.

We must have Sheriff Arpaio and more like him.; January 18, 2010 at 2:49 PM
Anonymous said...: Huh- "supporting the Mexican Invasion"? Will you people stop at nothing to protect the chief criminal in Maricopa County? Your tired tactics are not working. Anyone can plainly see that your ramblings are just opinion. Those against Joe's methods and his illegal activities have presented facts about what he has done. Do you dispute a single fact that has been presented? On what legal grounds do you do so? (Insert silence here, followed by a torrent of rants about illegal immigrants and other propaganda. Hey, it worked in Germany in the 30's. This is not Germany, and it's 2010.)

Joe has broken the law. He has not enforced the law. He will pay for his crimes. He will not go down alone.

Illegal immigration is not the subject of this thread- go elsewhere to discuss that, will you please? If you want to defend Joe against the legal charges against him- do that here, but address those charges directly. Understand? And learn to spell- won't you?; January 18, 2010 at 3:10 PM
Anonymous said...: "One example is that when criminals commit a crime and a witness see's them, very seldom if at all, does KPHO give a discription of the offenders. Why, because they are uaually Mexican's. And they do not want the public to get angry at the Mexican's." You have provided no substantiation for this that you present as fact. In fact- if they provide no description, and the person hasn't been apprehended, how do you know what he or she is? Your ignorance is quite obvious, but please don't insult the rest of us.

Those of us who can stand to watch the promo-laden and sound-effects enhanced newscast know that you are full of it. What we've seen proves the opposite of your assertion. Where did you come by this information about the station management's motives? We all know you found it in your BVDs.

I know it's hard for you to understand what all this means. So please ask your Mom, and consult a dictionary.

The charges against Arpaio, by comparison, are based on documented fact (and video). You don't have any of that to prove your scribblings, do you? Go away until you have something you can prove. And no, I for one (and most people with reasoning ability I would guess) don't bother to read your rants beyond the point that it's evident you are not experiencing the same reality as the rest of Maricopa County. That's about two sentences typically.; January 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM
Anonymous said...: Quit trying to boil down the complicated mess going on to an over simplistic statement like" the Sheriff is violating people rights". Most of the crazy crime is committed Mexican's. Therefore, Mexican's, and Mexican looking people will be pulled over. If a crime is committed by a white with blond hair, people that fit this description will be pulled over. This is the way it has always been. The only people who cry about it are minorities and they have used this to get away things.

What Mexican's are trying to do is gain as much power as they can and they are using civil rights, and profiling as one of their devious methods of doing so.

As I have said what we really need is Marshall Law to stop the illegal aliens, the criminals that bring them here, the kidnapping, the massive drugs moving through our state, the home invasions. After order is restored then our states costs for hospitals, schools, police, jails, courts, and prisons will drop in half.; January 18, 2010 at 3:45 PM
Anonymous said...: "Most of the crazy crime is committed Mexican's." Prove it. And how does this exonerate Arpaio? If he broke the law, he deserves to be punished.

Your fable has nothing to do with him and his prosecution. Or do you think that some people can do whatever they want?; January 18, 2010 at 3:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Oh and "Marshall Law" was a television show in Australia. Since you don't know how to spell it, surely you don't know what it means. "Martial law" means you will essentially have no civil rights even if you're not Mexican.

With friends like you, Arpaio has nothing to worry about!; January 18, 2010 at 3:56 PM
Anonymous said...: I like what Sheriff Arpaio. He's tough and doesn't back down in what he believes in. I encourage more politicans to take a stand like he does to defend our state and our innocent people.; January 18, 2010 at 4:19 PM
Jim Poncetti - Phoenix said...: Then I guess you are part of an every shrinking group of people.; January 18, 2010 at 4:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Oh and "Marshall Law" was a television show in Australia. Since you don't know how to spell it, surely you don't know what it means. "Martial law" means you will essentially have no civil rights even if you're not Mexican.

With friends like you, Arpaio has nothing to worry about!; January 18, 2010 at 4:56 PM
JW Simms said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; January 18, 2010 at 5:06 PM
Anonymous said...: J.W. Simms you sure know how to make a girl throw up. Or, are you trying to make Joe jealous?; January 18, 2010 at 5:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Yes, Martial Law is what we need! No civil rights for anyone until this mess is cleared up. I'm not afraid of being stopped and questioned. It seems you are. As for Marshall Law I was thinking of Marshall Dillon. :)

Yeah, Poncetti are you admitting to the invasion. Although no one really needs you to admit it!; January 18, 2010 at 5:16 PM
Anonymous said...: "I'm not afraid of being stopped and questioned. It seems you are." Not really- I support the police when they are doing their jobs.

It seems like your assumptions are leading you to all the wrong conclusions. Martial law is a case in point. I am quite sure you don't know what you're talking about. You have quite artfully (and unintentionally I am sure) demonstrated that beyond reasonable doubt. I have shown you how to spell it, but I can't think for you. Maybe it's better if you do some studying and refuse jury duty until you can comprehend some simple concepts.; January 18, 2010 at 5:25 PM
JW Simms said...: Anonymous said...

J.W. Simms you sure know how to make a girl throw up. Or, are you trying to make Joe jealous? " You're not going to throw up!! you're just gagging a little, don't go so far down and it'll be easier. J.W. Simms.; January 18, 2010 at 6:04 PM
Anonymous said...: So you're an Arpaio supporter? This represents him very well. I'm sure he's proud of you and your ilk. No matter what your position- your posts are disgusting. Not that anyone took your posts seriously or gave them any weight, but you have destroyed any credibility you might've enjoyed apart from your cult members. They may well share your perverse views. They and you don't seem to be in touch with reality.

Perhaps one of them will muster the courage to offer you some correction. I am not too confident that will happen.; January 18, 2010 at 6:22 PM
Anonymous said...: Ya' know, J.W. Simms, since you obviously can't tell right from wrong- it makes more sense why Arpaio can do no wrong in your eyes. Thanks for the insights into your personality cult. I'm sure we're all impressed.; January 18, 2010 at 6:27 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: JW Simms is only upset because he can't get me riled up. He is confused about which "head" he should be thinking with. Let him talk about his 'male part' all he wants. Doestn't bother me. It is only himself that he is making a fool of.

Stay tuned for more of WHY JOE ARPAIO IS HISTORY... By a normal, average citizen who did not vote for Joe or Andy.; January 18, 2010 at 6:41 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: I admit to copying and pasting with some alterations. I'm sure Coz won't be upset with me. (Coz - if you are, please forgive me for getting the message out on your behalf):

"Another example would also be the arrest of Nick Tarr, otherwise known as "Joe Arizona". In 2002 there were three hot propositions involving Indian gaming in Arizona, Nick's "Joe Arizona" character supported racetracks having slot machines, Sheriff Joe was supporting a proposition that kept Indian gaming on Indian land. For Halloween Nick decided to campaign in downtown Phoenix dressed as an officer. He went into his prop closet can came out with an old uniform shirt from DPS, his trademark "I Love Arizona" t-shirt, and a pair of Arpaio's pink boxer shorts.

Dave Hendersott, chief Deputy of the Sheriff's Office spotted Nick and he called DPS twice to have them come out and give Nick a citation. DPS officers came out and decided there was no crime. Undaunted, Hendershott then ordered his own deputies to arrest Tarr of impersonating an officer.

The charges against Tarr we later dropped and Tarr now has won a lawsuit against the Sheriff's Office.

Sorry Joe and David. Better luck next lawsuit...; January 18, 2010 at 6:57 PM
Anonymous said...: Seems that by the FBI reports from data submitted by MCSO, MCSO closes 79% of their cases "by exception" - they just give up and mark the case as closed. Usually used by LE where they know who did it, but that person can't be arrest (for example, the person is dead)

Phoenix PD closes less than 1% of their cases this way.

Again, that's what MCSO does 79% of the time.

So MCSO is only doing their job 21% of the time.

Who whould suport anyone who fails at their job 79% of the time?; January 18, 2010 at 7:12 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: What am I angry about?

Here's a sample:

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2004-08-05/news/dog-day-afternoon/

For those of you too lazy to research your HERO, let me make it easy for you. This dog that was chased back into an inferno leads into my NEXT story. I'm sure you'll be familiar with it.

Dog Day Afternoon
Sheriff Joe's goons launched an assault to make a misdemeanor arrest. The Raid left a burned house, a terrified neighborhood and a dead dog.

By John Dougherty
Published on August 05, 2004Jackie Mercandetti
An Ahwatukee residence looked more like a war zone, following a MCSO strike.
Fire ripped through the Ahwatukee home, leaving it a complete loss.
Subject(s):
Arpaio Justin Delfino looked out the window of his Ahwatukee home and couldn't believe what he was seeing.

It was shortly after noon on July 23 (2004) and several men dressed in black jeans and green shirts were getting out of an unmarked white Suburban, casually putting on flak jackets and helmets.

Soon the men were lingering in front of his neighbor's house in the upscale gated subdivision of quarter-million-dollar homes.

Delfino never would have guessed that he was witnessing the final preparations by the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office SWAT team moments before it unleashed a barrage of tear gas grenades into his neighbor's home.

"They looked unprofessional. They were getting dressed on the scene. They weren't organized," Delfino, 22, says.

From his vantage point inside his home, Delfino couldn't see that deputies had rolled an armored personnel carrier into the neighbor's front yard as they prepared to storm the house.

Delfino could see no readily visible insignia on any of the men, so he figured the scene must be a prelude to a prank on the two men and a woman with a toddler who lived in the two-story stucco house across the street.

"I thought, these must be their friends and they are going to try and shoot paint balls at them," Delfino says.

But soon he knew that what he first thought was a gag must be about something deadly serious.

"I saw one of the guys was perched and aiming a gun at the window," he says. "All of a sudden, he fires off a tear gas round into the upstairs window.

"I immediately called 911. I didn't know what was going on."

Delfino says the men -- who he next thought must be members of a gang -- continued firing tear gas canisters through three upstairs windows in the front of the house. He saw others wearing flak jackets go around to the back of the house, where he heard them fire two more rounds at the upstairs windows of a back bedroom.

I will go out on a limb to say that this dog perished for no good reason. Joe's men assaulted the wrong home, but yet "his officers did nothing wrong". Keep this point in mind.

The home owners were not reimbursed for their losses, even though it was proven that tthe MCSO deputies attacked the wrong house.

The family pet died as a direct result of the MCSO. Which leads me to another story...; January 18, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Anonymous said...: The evil Sheriffs List:

Bull Connor - Opposed Civil Rights

The Sheriff of Nottingham - Robin Hoods enemy

Sheriff Joe Arpaio - Abuser of Power; January 18, 2010 at 8:05 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: The bottom line is, come 2007, the Joe Arpaio regime has set roots. If you go to www.arpaio.com you will find many stories that led voters to question why Joe's officer's never "did anything wrong". People were dying in his jails. He was abusing his powers in the streets of Phoenix. He was looking to be re-elected and his popularity was declining.

Brainstorm! I will suddenly decide that illegal Mexicam immigrants are a BAD thing. And

On August 11, 2007, Joe Arpaio awoke to some very good news. A Chandler K9 Police Officer, Tom Lovejoy, had left his dog in a car in hot weather and the dog passed away.

The Chandler PD did an internal investigation and found that Officer Lovejoy was 'negligent' in Bandit's death. They demoted him from the head of the K9 unit, reassigned him to beat cop and took a deep breath.

Joe Arpaio, on the other hand, saw an opportunity. He has for years been accused of finding that "his officers have done nothing wrong" (see www.arpaio.com)

At last, a chance to prosecute a law enforcement officer. Joe's prayers have been answered. He will no longer be accused of being "soft" when it come to disciplining his officers. Problem: Lovejoy is Chandler PD, not MCSO. Chandler has already conducted their own internal investigation an dealt with the situation.

But NO. Joe has to file criminal animal abuse charges against Officer Lovejoy. He sends MCSO deputies into the Chandler Police Department to arrest Tom on CRIMINAL ANIMAL ABUSE charges in front of his coworkers.

The MCSO calls a news conference where the Joke cries alligator tears to talk about the investigation into Lovejoy's history and sadly (right!) explains that he has no choice but to charge Tom with felony animal abuse. He claimed that he had looked at all that had occured and sadly found that he must, against his heart, indict Officer Lovejoy.

Fast forward - the Lovejoy's attorney wants to depo Joe about his investigation. Joe swears up and down that he had "nothing to do with it" and that his employees were in charge and he had 'nothing of value' to say in a deposition. Huh?

Thomas Lovejoy was, thankfully, found not guilty of feloney animal cruelty charges. He and his family have had to pay thousands of dollars for his defense.

They have filed a civil suit against Arpaio. I do not at this time know the status of that legal action, but I say "Go Tom and Carolyn!!"; January 18, 2010 at 8:13 PM
JW Simms said...: Liz F - North Phoenix Hahahahahahah I knew it! I knew there was something about you that wasn't right. You nut case, you base all the crap! you post here on article's you plagiarize from that " RAG " the ( Phoenix new times? ) and then try to have us believe you actually did in depth research on the issues presented in this blog? You're sick!! I'll bet you even base your sex life on the New Times column ( savage love ) hahaha!! and your love life on their column ( the advice Goddess ) Damn lady and I use that term very loosely, get a thought of your own! and then come back and let us laugh at some more of your dribble. At least then we can assume it's honest dribble. J.W. Simms.; January 18, 2010 at 8:55 PM
Anonymous said...: Arpaio is a wimp, a pimp and a moron. Corruption has NEVER been so evident than in the MCSO. Arpaio's a tough guy alright...as long as he has that fat slob following him around with a gun on his ankle and a shoulder holster. To top that off, he's "tough" because he has approxmately 6 security goons to "protect" him against threats. The only THREAT he really has is called father time. His age is his biggest threat. Hopefully, the federal prison will give him some time to think about how he has raped and stolen from the taxpayers in the 16 years as Sheriff - and there are MANY voters who will work HARD to be sure he's never elected to ANY office again - unless of course, he ends up getting elected to the debate team at the federal prison.; January 18, 2010 at 9:02 PM
Anonymous said...: JW Simms. The NT has some of the best investigative reporters in AZ. They've won a number of awards in fact.

Do you recall the debale with the Babtist Foundation? Guess who broke that one!

You seem to want to go through life with your head in the sand - or Joe's butt!; January 18, 2010 at 9:02 PM
Anonymous said...: JW Simms.

79% of the cases by MCSO closed "by exception".

They FAIL 79% of the time.

Phx PD closes less than 1% of their cases the same way.; January 18, 2010 at 9:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Hendershott -there's a pig roast in the making. All we need is a big fire pit and a shiny apple.
That fat slob has been helping himself to taxpayer paid vacations for he and the Mrs. to a number of destinations, all hidden from taxpayer view. That is, until now.
STATE GRAND JURY awaits Hendershott
FEDERAL GRAND JURY awaits Arpaio and Hendershott.
Can't come soon enough.; January 18, 2010 at 9:06 PM
Anonymous said...: JW Simms- and the factual error in anything she said was what, exactly. Or is Liz wrong because you don't like one of her sources? You don't like one single source, that is. The word is "drivel", "dribble" refers to the game of basketball. "Dribble" also refers to what you do when you drink. However, Liz's posts contain no drivel- they are facts. If you disagree- why don't you show us some facts to refute hers. We know why.

If you're going to need constant help from those you impugn, you might as well just give up. Keep the scatological references to yourself. I know you're desperate, and getting more so, but at least you can fail with a little bit of class. Of course, I don't know you- maybe I'm giving credit where it isn't due.; January 18, 2010 at 9:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Is Jim Simms the guy also called "Angry Jim"? The cranky old guy that hits people with "Go Joe" signs at protests?; January 18, 2010 at 9:25 PM
Anonymous said...: illegal means illegal, that means zero rights, it's better to be a criminal than a victim with this assinine agenda from our corrupt administration.; January 18, 2010 at 9:55 PM
Anonymous said...: I will wait to hear from the Grand Jury whether or not the complaints have any merit. However, just ask yourself one question. We have immigration laws that are there to protect all American Citizens no matter what their race or color. Why is it we are only now discussing enforcement of immigration laws when there are over 40 million illegals in this country? This didn't happen overnight. Democratic presidents and Republican presidents have failed all American Citizens because they did not enforce the laws of our country. It has nothing to do with racism. You are either an American Citizen of this country or you are not. This is why people like Joe Arpaio. He seems to be the only person in this country enforcing our immigration laws. Illegals are bankrupting our social security system and social programs, flooding our schools and hospitals and our government is paying the bill with our tax dollars.; January 18, 2010 at 10:22 PM
Anonymous said...: "You are either an American Citizen of this country or you are not. This is why people like Joe Arpaio. He seems to be the only person in this country enforcing our immigration laws". Since you're so concerned with this issue- please tell us how many MCSO arrests for illegal immigration versus the number arrested by other agencies within Maricopa County. Even is this really were the only issue you care about, versus a transparent effort to change the subject, Arpaio still looks bad. Show us the numbers! I don't think you even know them!

And if those numbers were favorable (which they are far from), would his law-breaking not matter? Get real!!!; January 18, 2010 at 10:36 PM
Anonymous said...: "illegal means illegal, that means zero rights"

No it doesn't. You clearly don't understand US laws, the US Consitition, or the rulings of the US Supreme court.

Many rights apply to ANYONE on US soil. Why do you think Bush put people in Gitmo? It wasn't US soil, as that land is actually leased from Cuba. Unlike many military bases, that are considered US soil.; January 18, 2010 at 10:38 PM
Anonymous said...: "You are either an American Citizen of this country or you are not"

You never heard of a legal US resident, I guess. A green card or a Visa.

There are people in the US that are not citizens but are legal just the same.

20% of the illegals didn't sneak in, but entered legally, and just didn't leave when their visas expired.; January 18, 2010 at 10:41 PM
Anonymous said...: Good old MCSO, by their own numbers, fail at soling crimes (and close the cases) 79% of the time.

While for Phoenix PD, it's less than 1%.

That's reality. MCSO fails at their job 79% of the time. Why do people support and chear that?

They themselves would get fired if they only did their job 21% of the time!; January 18, 2010 at 10:44 PM
Jane Marshall - Gilbert AZ said...: I am against illegal immigration. There are three problems I have with Joe.

1) He is mean. It is enough to arrest someone and put them in jail as punishment for a crime. I am not interested in a publicity stunt where you show me how mean you are to convicts. I am tired of this.

2) He abuses his power. He intimidates other public officials. That would be fine if we lived in some third world shit hole but we don't.

3) He uses racial profiling in the sweeps. I am all for getting illegal aliens out of the country as long as it is done per proper departmental procedures. Aprpaio has always seemed very unconcerned about the idea of civil rights violations. This bothers me a lot.; January 18, 2010 at 11:04 PM
Trish said...: Thanks Sheriff Joe for doing what others are scared to do. I was raised being taught that right is right and wrong is wrong. Thanks for standing up for what is right despite the negative press and the harassment you have to put up with. I admire you and wish there were more in office like you who would do the Right thing, even when it's difficult. Thanks.; January 18, 2010 at 11:13 PM
Anonymous said...: Trish -
"Thanks Sheriff Joe for doing what others are scared to do"

You do know that only 1 of 10 illegals in MCSO jails was arrested by MCSO, right?

The data is on the main page of mcso.org. 3k busts by MCSO, and 30k turned over to ICE.

You bought into the MCSO media circus! Not only that but DPS VCAT and their illegals squad (IIMPACT) go after DANGEROUS illegals. Joe goes after people with broken tail lights.

MCSO closes 79% of their cases "by exception" (they give up). Phx PD on the other hand only closes less than 1% of their cases that way. This is based on FBI stats, with the data provided by MCSO and Phx PD.

There was a story on the EV Trib the other day, again with real numbers, about how the local PDs were VERY effective at going after illegals, when comapred to MCSO.

You been had...; January 18, 2010 at 11:22 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: To those of you who spoke in on my behalf against JW Simms - thank you, your support is appreciated.

JW Simms is making a fool of himself with his idiotic postings, so I am happy to let him "post away". It's not me or you that he is proving a moron.; January 18, 2010 at 11:32 PM
Anonymous said...: Liz.. JW Simms is an idiot. He's uninformed and myopic when it comes to what he wants. He's pushing for the longest and hardest path to get where he thinks he wants to be with his blind support of Arpaio and the Keystone Kops actions of MCSO.; January 18, 2010 at 11:43 PM
Anonymous said...: "Being illegal is not a serious crime. You can't go to jail for being an illegal alien."

"Even law enforcement has to have probable cause before taking people out of their cars and telling them to lie on the ground. . . . He threatened to kill them," Arpaio said. "He did not have the right to do what he did. How did he know they were illegal aliens?"

-Joe Arpaio, April 2005.

From:

www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/0413detain13.html

Oh, how the times have changed....; January 18, 2010 at 11:52 PM
Anonymous said...: How inconsiderate, classless and heartless of
Linda Ronstadt and ALL who participated in
the rally when thousands of people in Haiti
were suffering, dying or wondering where
their family members were.

That rally could - and should - have been
postphoned for another day in a few months...
but they HAD to make their rantings and
hard feelings known even in the wake of a
DISASTER.

I personally feel that they KNOW this state
is SICK of them and that is all they can
do....(rant and rally).

WE people speak -with election
results -and there WILL be Sheriff Joe and
there WILL be penalties for companies that
hire illegals...so either DEAL with it...
or move back to Mexico....

we're tired of you....you're loud in stores..
you walk in public when you're coughing and
should've stayed at home....your children
are misbehaved (what a surprise considering
their role models), and just generally not
conforming to the rest of us....is it any
wonder you still marched in the FIRST week
of one of the worst natural disasters in
the entire WORLD ?

You just don't -and never will - get IT !

It's called MANNERS and Good Etiquette -
get a book...read all about it !

PLEASE ! Leave already....we're tired of
you....and KPHO, I'm surprised you still
have advertisers...I won't watch you anymore !; January 18, 2010 at 11:57 PM
Anonymous said...: My favorite Arpaio quote, from 1985, when the DEA forced him to take an early retirement, and he and Ava were running a travel agency:

"If you can afford a Mercedes, you can afford to go into space," Arpaio said.

From:

www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/09/03/20090903spacetravel-ON.html; January 19, 2010 at 12:03 AM
Anonymous said...: "there WILL be Sheriff Joe and there WILL be penalties for companies that hire illegals"

So, tell me about Turf Paridise, where the owners maxed out their donations to ARpaio's re-election, and even though the racing commision fould thay had 100 illegals, Arpaio went after the racing commision, and not the illegals!

And then, tell me about the ONE employer bused under the employer sanctions law, in 2 years, that got a suspended business licence for 10 days, even though they were no longer in business.

You need to do your homework on the Joker...; January 19, 2010 at 12:07 AM
Mark Gasser said...: Way to go JOE

No we don't need any workers from Mexico. The number of Americans without jobs is higher than the number of Americans without jobs during the last great depression. Why would we want legal immigrants from Mexico when we don't have enough jobs for the Americans citizens in this country?

Other than the third world workers from Mexico, the only ones who want the modern day slaves to come here is the rich who don't want to pay a fare wage. No American compete with the wages these immigrants are willing to work for. Why? Because most Americans don't have twenty of their friends and distant family members living in one three bed room house, that's why. STOP all immigrant workers legal or not, is what Washington should be doing. But until the majority takes control of our rich controlled government, we will have legal and allowed illegal immigration. If Washington allows immigration to continue here, when there is not enough work here for Americans, maybe then the majority will realize who really runs this country.

This is America and the American’s country, not Mexico’s or the Mexicans that come here expecting free food, medical care and housing. No, they have no rights or nothing coming.

TO ALL OF MEXICO’S MAJORITY
Stay home and fix your corrupt government. WE DON’T WANT OR NEED YOU!!!!; January 19, 2010 at 12:25 AM
Anonymous said...: Mark, haven't we seen this post from you half a dozen times? It's been pointed out here and documented that other angencies arrest illegals at a much higher rate in Maricopa County than MCSO? It's a documented fact. So why are you so pro-Joe when he's not doing his job? You've read the Goldwater Report and have yet to point out a single factual error in it. Based on the well researched information it contains he is breaking the law himself. So why are you so pro-Joe?

He "exceptionally clears" cases at a rate more than 80 times Phoenix PD (to mention one agency operating here). So families of crime victims are denied justice and criminals walk the streets with impunity from MCSO (good thing other agencies are there). So why are you so pro-Joe?

Your ramblings aren't backed by fact- so what's your agenda, Mark? Don't you want effective law enforcement from MCSO?

People don't need you to point out that government is corrupt and illegal immigration is a problem (or several problems, actually). Those who watch or read the news can see that for themselves. Do you feel the need to worship Joe? You should look into that.; January 19, 2010 at 1:59 AM
Mark Gasser said...: The other agencies you refer to out number Joe's deputies ten to one. Yes they arrest illegals, but for breaking our laws, not for being here illegally. Joe and his deputies because of Joe, are the only deputies and sheriff in this country that has Federal Law enforcement rights, when it comes to the illegals. So the things you bashers like to twist and turn the truth to, is just that, twisted and turned facts.

Fact:
Only Joe and his deputies arrest illegals for being illegal, no other sheriff prior to Joe has this authority. Meaning, the next sheriff will lose this power and the writers of the Goldwater report will have what they want. A sheriff that doesn't buck the system that loves the modern day slave.; January 19, 2010 at 6:11 AM
Mark Gasser said...: To Liz F. Martinez - North Phoenix said...

Go back to Mexico. I know they don't have welfare there and free food and free medical care. But if you want a Mexico you and your relatives can live and be safe in, change the corrupt Mexican government and stop blaming us for your third world living conditions. I know, people take the easy way out. But Joe isn’t going to make it easy for you here. Go to Texas then, if you are to big of a coward to stand up for your rights in Mexico. We don’t want or need you and the rest of the modern day slaves. Go march in Mexico city, or are you to big of a coward or to lazy to do what is right?; January 19, 2010 at 6:31 AM
Anonymous said...: Being illegal is'nt a serious crime comment...it is still a crime, at least you finally realized that!; January 19, 2010 at 8:34 AM
Anonymous said...: Who was the idiot at the MCSO who hired this PR puppet loser Mark Gasser to post this crap? You should have interviewed other more competent people or a chimp.; January 19, 2010 at 9:17 AM
Anonymous said...: I do think he needs to be investigated and this will clear up any understanding!
If he's doing his job correctly we will know or if he is corrupt we will know that also!; January 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM
Anonymous said...: The bottom line is that illegals should go back to mexico, and i think that being tough on crime works better because sometimes we are too leniant with criminals. Sheriff Joe has to deal with some really bad people and is doing the best that he can.; January 19, 2010 at 10:37 AM
Anonymous said...: If you want verifyable information just look at the Bus procurement.. He sidestepped the approved process for Joes process and wonders why they won't register and insure it. If you want more, just hang out in AJ for a few days and I am sure you will see it first hand.; January 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM
Anonymous said...: Mark Gasser, writer, politician, nazi, idiot...; January 19, 2010 at 11:06 AM
Anonymous said...: To above anonymous,
Lol and thanks once again for proving you illegals don't have a clue as to what goes on in your own government much less what goes on in ours. I know, you Joe bashers have no real evidence nor do the ones trying to prosecute him. Go back to Mexico and use your time to fight for you own country, leave us and our country be. We are just fine without the modern day slave here thank you.; January 19, 2010 at 11:22 AM
Anonymous said...: Joe has no federal illegal immigration enforcement authority. They took it away because he abused it. Fact.

It was reported in the news- but since you make yours up, you must've missed it. Ever heard of Google? Seriously- are you even trying, or do just sit down at the keyboard after the Ambien kicks in? You should work at the Improv- since you're so used to being laughed at- you might as well get paid for it. Didn't you ice fishing friend tell you that you're making a fool of yourself?

"you Joe bashers have no real evidence nor do the ones trying to prosecute him." Then you have nothing to say, do you? Funny how you haven't addressed one criticism (what narcissistic types call bashing) except by changing the subject or attacking the person who posted it. If you have some facts to disprove anything in the Goldwater Report or anything posted here- let's see them.

I have a feeling it will go that way in court. There will be laughter all over the country, but some will be standing there with stupid looks wondering what just happened. We'll want to see that picture of you.; January 19, 2010 at 11:42 AM
Anonymous said...: To the Mark G. and Joe bashers,

You people have no clue as to who these people really are. You call names like a bunch of spoiled babies and you write with your anger/hatred more than obvious. You are only proving to the educated ones on this site your ignorance. Because Joe is known through out the world, you people hate him for that ? Or is it because you are illegal you hate him? Face the facts, Joe is going to arrest anyone he can that breaks the laws period. This means all the laws period. As far as Gasser goes, if you ever did click on his name, you would see he is nothing what you claimed. Grow up babies and leave this country if you are illegal. Keep your emotions to your self, no one here cares about your feeling that you express in your writing.

Keep up the good work you 2.; January 19, 2010 at 11:44 AM
Anonymous said...: "Because Joe is known through out the world, you people hate him for that ?" Think about it, Junior, all dictators have been known (and are known) around the world. Do you not find it strange that you're saying this of a county Sheriff. Without checking, just off the top of your head- name the Sheriff of LA county (bigger), Houston (bigger), or any other large metro area. He's known for his outlandish publicity stunts, more like a clown than a cop.

He's made quite a reputation for himself as a nut, a dictator, a faux law enforcer, a legend- it depends who you ask. But if you ask crime victims who depend on MCSO for protection and to have the perpetrators of the crimes against them brought to justice, many will tell you that Joe's a buffoon with a badge- or worse. They've paid out lots of lawsuits (in the Goldwater Report), and increased insurance premiums (in the Goldwater Report) because of his stubborn incompetence.

Most of us who read these posts and reply seem to think he's paying someone(s) to post here. Name another sheriff anywhere that anyone suspects (or would think of suspecting) of that kind of shenanigans? Is that okay with you? Well, it isn't with most people. That's the kind of garbage Joe Arpaio is known for. Look it up, Junior.; January 19, 2010 at 11:56 AM
Mark Gasser said...: Evidence from Goldwater Institute

Here is a fact from the Goldwater Institute. This is why Joe is against building a four hundred million dollar unneeded new court house. Yes his departments needs and should receive more money to fight this invasion.

Goldwater Institute says,

When two Phoenix police officers stopped a man and two women for jay walking in September 2007, a confrontation ensued and Officer Nick Erfle was shot and killed. Erfle was 33 years old, the father of two young children, and had just overcome a battle with cancer. The man suspected of killing him, Erik Martinez, was an illegal immigrant who had previously been deported. Notably, he was the subject of an outstanding felony warrant for aggravated assault.

Can you Joe bashers understand why Joe arrests and deports any illegal he can? If only the Federal government would keep it’s end of the bargain up and stop the illegals that freely walk across our boarders. You go Joe, save as many lives as you can, even though you can’t save them all.

May God bless Officer Nick Erfle and his family. And give Joe the power and money it will take to stop these law breakers and killers.

source of facts: Goldwater Institute

YES JOE HAS FERDERAL IMMAGRATION AUTHORITY. HE DID NOT LOSE THIS RIGHT LIKE SOME HERE LIE ABOUT. GOOGGLE THIS IF YOU ARE UNSURE; January 19, 2010 at 11:58 AM
Anonymous said...: "How inconsiderate, classless and heartless of
Linda Ronstadt and ALL who participated in
the rally when thousands of people in Haiti
were suffering, dying or wondering where
their family members were."

Let's first ask what you did to help them, or anyone- even your neighbors? Oh- you posted a message on the internet to share the truth about Arpaio that only you and a few select others know. All I can say on behalf of those who participated in the rally is: One disaster at a time- Joe was here first. It's a scheduling thing.

Haiti does need lots of help, and there are quite a few organizations attempting to do that. Maybe you should watch or read the news and see what you can do, then come back and post here.; January 19, 2010 at 12:06 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To Anonymous who barks of Goldwater

I don't listen to cry baby name callers such as you self. Who is the junior here? I think you have more than proved it is you with your immature name calling.

As far as the Goldberg report. Eat the words from it. Most here won’t listen to right wing propaganda that twist the truth and facts. The whole report is grafts and twisted facts proving they love and protect the modern day slaves so their masters can get rich.

Don't you have anything of merit and new to say? Your getting old with your repeated bull crap.; January 19, 2010 at 12:13 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To anonymous above,

No I don't have a story about Joe on my site, what are you talking about? Yes I did post a blog about the preacher on TV that said God was punishing Haiti, yes I proved he is full of it and not a man of God. If you are going to click on my name and read my blogs, don't think you are the only one that here that will. Yes they will see you are full of it too.; January 19, 2010 at 12:19 PM
Anonymous said...: I take it from your fanciful posting that you can't disprove anything in that report. Had you addressed it when I first asked there would have been no repeated requests. But I can't say the same for your repeated postings, which I brought up before. So now you're copying my methods. I will take that as a complement of dubious quality. And now that we know that you are "Junior" there's no need to post both as Mark Gasser, and anonymously- okay? The tenor and content of the postings was so similar that there was little doubt- but you just shined the light on yourself.

I refer to the Goldwater Report often, because it is a compilation of researched facts, with references so we can check their accuracy. You don't have anything like that, do you? So far you haven't presented anything that has a factual ring to it. We're still waiting Mark Gasser, Junior- whoever you are.; January 19, 2010 at 12:36 PM
Anonymous said...: "Goldwater Institute says," - so now you agree with the report. Why do you still tell us Joe's doing a great job?

"In October 2009, the Department of Homeland Security removed the authority of Arpaio's 160 federally trained deputies to make immigration arrests in the field. Despite the actions of the Department of Homeland Security, Arpaio has maintained that he will still pursue illegal aliens under Arizona state law."

Source: "Tough sheriff's immigration duties face limits after complaints". CNN. October 8, 2009. http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/08/arizona.sheriff.immigration/#cnnSTCVideo.

Here's something from the East Valley Tribune for you to read; It's pretty involved, but if you need help understanding it- I'm sure there are kind-hearted people here willing to help.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/page/reasonable_doubt

See Mark, Junior- anyonymous - whoever you are- we can find facts if we try. I hope you find that encouraging and that you will make the effort yourself. It's not too hard. Then you will know what you're talking about, at least a little.

Officer Erfle should not have been killed- it was wrong- but please stop associating his good name with your garbage. Do you know how he felt about the Sheriff? It might be that the family would sue you for misusing his name in such a way. Ask your lawyer friend.

It's just another red herring- you're leaving out almost the whole rest of the report and excerpting that part out of context. It proves that despite his noises- the Sheriff isn't doing squat about having bad guys crossing the border- or the person who shot officer Erfle wouldn't have been on this side of the border. You've been duped into believing the Sheriff is tough on immigration. Do you comprehend that?; January 19, 2010 at 12:52 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To the name calling Goldwater worshiper,

The Goldwater report is a bunch of twisted facts, admit it. Didn’t you read the words from the Goldwater report I posted above? Are you trying to tell me that isn’t fact now?

Definition:
What is a fact? Something that can be proven or disprove Junior.

I will disprove one fact your Goldwater supports told. That turned out to be a lie as usual.

Remember when your buddies told America on the system ran media that China was drilling for oil fifty miles off our shores? LIE, it was an outright lie yet the Goldwater supporters said exactly that. Let me guess, you still believe that to be true lol. What a true junior you really are.; January 19, 2010 at 12:59 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To anonymous the Junior Goldwater worshiper,

You are the one saying what this dead officer felt, not me. No I don't need to talk to a lawyer, but yuu should. Yes if I was his family, I would sue you for sure.

Yes, Joe still arrest illegals for being illegal, no matter what rights you think he has or doesn't, doesn't matter. Ask his deputies if you need some proof ok. Until then, maybe you could pull your head out of you big political motivated rear end. Why don't you just admit you are a Republican that loves the modern day slaves. Not that we all don't know this already.; January 19, 2010 at 1:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Hmmm- so you think Joe Arpaio had something to do with that? The Goldwater Report referred to in this thread was about MCSO. Stay on the subject, Skippy.

Unlike you- they provide references as to where they got the information they included in the report. Since you haven't challenged a single fact it contains, are we to understand that you agree with it? Then why do you cheer-lead for Arpaio?; January 19, 2010 at 1:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Mark, didn't you post last week that you've never talked to a deputy? Now (again) you claim to know what they say or will say. That doesn't make sense, does it?; January 19, 2010 at 1:18 PM
Mark Gasser said...: No I never did talk to Joe or his deputies. What is your point here? I don't need the proof, it is you who is the uneducated blind sheep here, not me. If you really need proof of Joe arresting illegals for being here illegaly, I suggested you ask someone who can give you the facts you bagged for.; January 19, 2010 at 1:22 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To the junior goldwater worshipper,

Aren't you going to answer the question about China drilling fifty miles off our shores? Like your goldwater supporters claimed? What, cat got your tongue lol.; January 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM
Anonymous said...: "Why don't you just admit you are a Republican that loves the modern day slaves." You're shooting blanks, Lefty. Politics is part of the problem- not the solution.

But again- you're changing the subject away from Arpaio and MCSO- we all understand why. Ha!; January 19, 2010 at 1:35 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Sorry to all here,

Sorry this Junior goldwater worshiper has gotten me off the subject of the modern day slaves marching here instead of in Mexico city. But it is kind of fun proving what a junior uneducated blind sheep he really is. Try not to blame me, but it is because of juniors like him this country is in the mess it is.; January 19, 2010 at 1:35 PM
Anonymous said...: "I don't need the proof, it is you who is the uneducated blind sheep here, not me." I think that covers it nicely- thanks MG.; January 19, 2010 at 1:36 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Junior can make this about him and me and not the subject at hand, but look what he does when it's not going his way, falls back to the only arguement he's got and says I'm off subject lol. Then yells Ha! like the child he really is.; January 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM
Anonymous said...: "I don't need the proof, it is you who is the uneducated blind sheep here, not me." Yes, obviously it's best to read the newspaper before it's printed. Only fools, and idiots need to wait until after.

Mark, you should run for public office- er, I mean public restroom. Since it's hard, I'll explain- you're full of it! Ha!!!; January 19, 2010 at 1:42 PM
Anonymous said...: I think that Sheriff Arpaio is doing a great job, because he's just doing what he was told to do. It's not his fault that the majority of Illegal Immigrants come from Mexico and most Mexicans regardless of where they're from have dark skin. If he pulled over all the white people then they would be up in arms, the same could probably be said about the blacks.People seem to forget that Illegal Immigrants take Americam Jobs away from Americans because they will work for less money than most Americans. People complain about being out of work, yet some are not willing to take a minimum wage job until something else come along. They also beleive that their unemployment benefits pay more but what happens when they run out. As for Mary Rose Wilcox, she's been crooked all along. Why would someone shoot if she hadn't done something wrong. The County employees that lost there jobs as well as Wilcox and Stapley are trying to railroad the sheriff before he does find their indiscrepencies. I hope they all go down! It just shows how afraid they are about getting caught when they have to pull the Federal Government into it.; January 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Junior says, " I think that covers it nicely- thanks MG.

Yes, you have covered up answering the questions I used to prove your ignorance nicely. Cat still has your tongue I see lol.; January 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM
Anonymous said...: Mark, I for one think the world needs more people like you: People who are willing to go out in public with food on their faces. Ones who aren't afraid to stand up for Gumby and the tooth fairy. People that aren't afraid to swim upstream- in a sewer system, to find the source of their inspiration. Want more?

But I digress- this is about Arpaio and his press releases.; January 19, 2010 at 1:46 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Junior, I can’t wait tell Joe arrest your illegal butt. You can hide here behind anonymous and prove to us all your childish mentality by putting Ha!! After your childish words, but you can’t hide from Joe’s long arm of the law. Better start ducking lol.; January 19, 2010 at 1:50 PM
Anonymous said...: You can't even come up with an original nickname? Now you're calling me Junior- very cute (like a one legged cat wandering through a brier patch). Oh, Mark- what are we to do with you? Do you want me to come up with a new nickname that you can call me? Seriously it's obvious you need the help. I don't mind.

But I digress again- this is about Arpaio and his press releases.; January 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To no fact Junior,

Thank you once again for proving your true illegal colors with your name calling. No you have no facts, just a childs brain. Thanks again for proving it to all.; January 19, 2010 at 1:54 PM
Anonymous said...: "I can’t wait tell Joe arrest your illegal butt." I won't bother to correct your grammar. I think it would be funny if I were not born in the US- that an illegal immigrant would have to correct your grammar and spelling! Man, it doesn't get much better than that.

Does Joe arrest people for expressing themselves on the Internet now? Is that okay with you, Mark. I won't call you Junior anymore. You stole it, and obviously need it more than I do. Hey- maybe Joe will arrest you for stealing. No- he probably can't find the time what with all the press conferences, reality TV and lawsuits he's involved with.

Keep 'em coming Mark- we're turning out to be quite a comedy team.

But I digress yet again- this is about Arpaio.; January 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM
Anonymous said...: This for thise protesters that were pepper sprayed the other day. Are you poeplse stupid?Who in there right mind brings a baby or a child to a protest? If you had just stayed home and mined your own business then you wouldn't have gotten pepper sprayed in the first place. As for Mary Rose Wilcox corruption should be her middle name. LEAVE SHERIFF JOE ALONE! GET THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY! If I remember right There have been cases where an Illegal Immigrant have killed Law enforcement Officers in our State, someone should ask their families how they feel about Sheriff Arpaio's Immigrant Sweeps.; January 19, 2010 at 2:01 PM
Anonymous said...: "There have been cases where an Illegal Immigrant have killed Law enforcement Officers in our State" Not to make light of any of these tragedies- but there have been many more law enforcers killed by US citizens. Using your logic- why aren't you calling to get all the US citizens out of the country?

Yes, someone should ask their families- then they can tell you to sit down, listen and learn, and let someone deal with the problems that led to their individual tragedies. Lots of these happened in Maricopa County while Arpaio was on the watch. Think about it.; January 19, 2010 at 2:07 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Aw, my grammer isn't as perfect as yours. To bad, at least I don't hide like you. Why would anyone believe a word of yours, you are a coward who hides, nothing more. Why don't you tell all why I say Joe is going to arrest you? How do I know you are a law breaker you must be wondering? Well, you defend others who are breaking the law and you hide behind an Anonymous. Not to hard to figure out.

You love to attack me with your name calling and my grammer. I'm not the perfect moron here nor do I claim to be as do you.; January 19, 2010 at 2:10 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To anonymous who wrote,

"There have been cases where an Illegal Immigrant have killed Law enforcement Officers in our State" Not to make light of any of these tragedies- but there have been many more law enforcers killed by US citizens. Using your logic- why aren't you calling to get all the US citizens out of the country?

Why you have to ask? Because illegals are not the majority that's why. A lot of the ones who kill our officers are part of the Mexican drug war waged against America by Mexico. If you take into considerating these criminals too, they would be the majority of killers here. To date illegals aren't the majority. Thanks to Joe, they never will be.; January 19, 2010 at 2:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Hey Mark- this is not about me or you. Are the accusations against Joe related to his job performance true? That's the question of this thread.

I don't defend any illegal acts (including crossing the border illegally) and never have. Point out a single post where I did that. There are none.

I can't debate someone who makes up convenient facts- even less so when they are unrelated to the topic of the thread. As to originality- you can't even make up a nickname- you have to copy from others. It seems that anything you have to say has already been said by someone else. So have a nice day.; January 19, 2010 at 2:21 PM
Mark Gasser said...: No I will never blame Joe for the crime here that the goldwater report does. I only give Joe credit for it not being far worse if we didn't have a tough Sheriff who can't be bought by the system. You think there is crime now lol. Thank God we got Joe, God knows how bad it would be now without him, so do the rest of us that support Joe. We don't listen to the bull of system ran liars or illegal lovers.; January 19, 2010 at 2:25 PM
Mark Gasser said...: I thought you just said this wasn't about you and I. You want me to make up a name for you now? I try to avoid name calling and only repeated what you called me. But if you insist, how about this for a name for you?
"Media ran fact bending blind sheep." Is that more fitting?; January 19, 2010 at 2:31 PM
Anonymous said...: "Media ran fact bending blind sheep." Believe whatever you like, but that's not even a name. Again no proof, no evidence, no facts, and we've seen similar wording before- are you sure you don't work for Arpaio? Okay- you just use his tactics because that requires no originality, nor even any thought.; January 19, 2010 at 2:37 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Again I thought we were going to get off the subject of you and I? You know for a fact I have many many original ideas. Did you ever hear the word or definition "modern day slave" before? No and you know it. I know you read my blogs too and know they are not the words of others but original thoughs of my own. If you are going to cut me down, don't make it so obvious to me that you are making stuff up ok?; January 19, 2010 at 2:43 PM
Anonymous said...: MG: Arguing with you is like arguing with a hamster- a hamster named "Einstein"!; January 19, 2010 at 2:44 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To MG basher,

At least you got it half right. The hamster part though would make me an animal without thumbs. I can type see.; January 19, 2010 at 2:52 PM
Anonymous said...: I am sick & tired of channel 5 & there biased commentary of sheriff Joe.What part of illegal don't you understand.Sheriff Joe is the only law enforcement person to do his job.We the people voted him in & he is doing exactly what he was hired to do ,& one of those things is to get rid of illegals.Go Joe.
How about some fair & balanced reporting channel 5? Way to much of a liberal slant.; January 19, 2010 at 4:45 PM
Anonymous said...: You progressives make no sense at all, all these years corrupt gov. been makeing deals, that's why all illegals are here. so if your capable, try some honest to goodness facts...then you might know the difference between RIGHT AND WRONG.; January 19, 2010 at 5:58 PM
Anonymous said...: "What part of illegal don't you understand." Isn't this about the 900th time somebody has floated that canard? The facts show that he's doing a very poor job with illegal immigration, especially in comparison with other agencies.

"Sheriff Joe is the only law enforcement person to do his job." That's not a new one either- I'm sure that the many thousands of officers who risk their lives to serve the public every day would be quite surprised to hear this.

Propaganda is not the same as news, and those who buy it are making themselves uninformed- but why do they feel the need to foist it on thinking people?

The sheer idiocy of these sweeping lies, one would think, are enough to give the person posting pause. But nope. What does that say about their integrity, or Arpaio's?; January 19, 2010 at 5:58 PM
Anonymous said...: Are you sure you're not illegal?; January 19, 2010 at 6:47 PM
Anonymous said...: Way to underscore the point!!! Yes, I am sure.

Are you sure that Joe hasn't done anything illegal? I doubt that you're as sure as you'd like those who read your posts to believe. Arpaio will end up in court at the defendant's table, and I will not.

It's unlikely that many read this thread anymore. Arpaio's supporters (to put it charitably) keep coming up with the same green baloney. Those who want a Sheriff who enforces the whole law and doesn't break it keep presenting facts. I suspect it will work that way in court, too, except Joe won't be able to change the subject or accuse the prosecutor, judge or jury of illegality. He will have to face the music, assuming he doesn't move to Honduras first. He will have to answer the questions posed to him, and not those he wants to answer. He won't be able to make up his own facts.

Now, what about you? What's your agenda?; January 19, 2010 at 7:01 PM
JW Simms said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; January 19, 2010 at 7:51 PM
Anonymous said...: J.W. Simms. A white guy. - I congratulate you on your honesty in refraining from calling yourself a human being. And many of us thought that the worst damage to Arpaio's reputation was himself. Maybe it's that he's not denouncing his supporters like you. He apparently doesn't have the courage.

Or maybe you are trying to be sure that nobody will want to read this thread and see how your green baloney is laid bare. Pathetic.; January 19, 2010 at 8:41 PM
Anonymous said...: Sheriff Joe...I commend you for doing what is right.....illegal is ILLEGAL! Do any of you do-gooders have any idea of the strain that these illegals are putting on our health care here in Arizona and across the country. I wish I could walk in a hospital and be treated for nothing...but nooooooo.....I pay 500.00 a month for a 12,000.00 deductible that could ruin me if, heaven forbid, I were to become ill. I stay at home and suffer when I have a cold or a stubbed toe, I don't run to the hospital!
Do any of you bleeding hearts understand how the real world works? Guess what...this impacts you too.
"If you think health care costs alot now...wait until its FREE!"; January 19, 2010 at 9:38 PM
Anonymous said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; January 19, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Anonymous said...: Kindly explain what Arpaio is doing to lower healthcare costs. Man, you guys will change the subject to anything, and have superhuman flexibility when it comes to jumping to the wrong conclusion. What do you mean- the deductible could ruin you? Seems to me you've already ruined yourself. The grand jury and federal agencies won't be moved by these ridiculous arguments.

J.W. Simms has proved himself irrelevant- I thought he'd (or she or it) crawled back into its cave permanently last night, but I guess it got too gross in there, and it crawled out again to inflict upon the readers here its version of defending the deity that is da' Sheruf and his depadees. They are imitators or their god aren't they? Wouldn't it be funny if they were exposed as being on Joe's payroll? I dunno' it could happen.; January 19, 2010 at 10:03 PM
Anonymous said...: THE FEDS SHOULD BE DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING. AND AT THE END OF ALL OF THIS THEY WILL HAVE ADMIT IT.; January 19, 2010 at 10:07 PM
JW Simms said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; January 19, 2010 at 10:12 PM
JW Simms said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; January 19, 2010 at 10:42 PM
A white guy who hates bigots said...: JW Simms a white trash guy.; January 19, 2010 at 10:43 PM
Anonymous said...: From a couple or three days ago:

"J.W. Simms. said...

I feel at this time, that I must go on the record and attest to the fact that I fully support sheriff Joe Arpaio and his views on illegal immigration and political corruption in the state of Arizona. Also I fully support Mark Gasser and his views on the same issues. "

Well there ya' go...; January 19, 2010 at 10:58 PM
Anonymous said...: "J.W. Simms. A white guy. "Anonymous? is that your given name?" Sure- that's a rhetorical question right?

You brand me a coward because I choose to remain anonymous? Thank you!!!!! I appreciate that you didn't accuse me of being part of the MCSO.

Keep talkin' you're doing great! Don't blame anyone but yourself.; January 19, 2010 at 11:02 PM
The sad truth said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; January 19, 2010 at 11:12 PM
Anonymous said...: Well, I think Arpaio supporter is bad enough, regardless of his other problems.; January 19, 2010 at 11:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Did your Father name you "J.W. Simms"? I am sure he must be very proud. His son knows how to use the Internet! Whooeeee!

Even better, he wants the world to know: [He] "fully support sheriff Joe Arpaio and his views on illegal immigration and political corruption in the state of Arizona. Also I fully support Mark Gasser and his views on the same issues." Man, what a package!; January 19, 2010 at 11:35 PM

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