Thursday, January 28, 2010

Sheriff Strikes Back At CBS 5 News

In two separate incidents this past week, Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his office have railed against CBS 5 News.

On Monday, Arpaio tweeted a response to past coverage of his activities:

ch 5 news dir & reporter run same story over & over about MCSO..getting a little silly...hoping for an emmy at my expense?? Good Luck Ch 5

And on Thursday, the Sheriff's Office produced a video response to a story about animal remains found in a Phoenix home. CBS 5 News reporter Jose Miguel says he e-mailed MCSO twice for comment; the Sheriff's Office says it never received the e-mails:

KPHO-TV News Director Michelle Donaldson posted the following response on the video's YouTube page:

CBS 5 News tried twice to get a response from MCSO, beginning at 1:47pm that day. Detectives said they never got our messages. However, they insist that we continue to use the designated phone lines for media and not contact them directly.

This is a public agency serving the public.

We will continue to direct appropriate scrutiny toward MCSO and all agencies that serve our viewers.

-Michelle Donaldson
-KPHO News Director

Labels: truth behind the headlines, Twitter

327 Comments:

Mark Gasser said...: Channel 5
Your point here exactly? Are you saying you can badger Joe with bull crap surveys and many other attacks, and Joe can not use his freedom of speech? My God, what is our media comeing to?; January 28, 2010 at 7:18 AM
Mark Gasser said...: Here is the truth about channel 5 and the survey they posted in a previous blog.

I Goggled “Behavior Research Center”

This is their definition;
Founded in 1965, the Behavior Research Center is an independent Phoenix-based firm providing marketing and public opinion research to public and private sector clients. The company designs and conducts projects on all levels, from local to international.

Two key word in their own words, MARKETING and PRIVATE. It is clear to me, who their client is for this survey, the SYSTEM, that’s who. The same system that loves the modern day slaves and the same system that wants Joe gone. This survey saying Joe’s approval rating has fallen, is a complete joke. End of argument.

To channel 5
Since you posted the results of this survey, please tell us who hired them to take this survey. Also tell us what special instructions were they given when it came to the ones that should be surveyed. I’ll take a stab at the first part, it was you that hired them? Please, correct me if I am wrong.; January 28, 2010 at 7:22 AM
Anonymous said...: what I would like to see, is news 5's opening page without having to look at that mans picture.; January 28, 2010 at 7:25 AM
Mark Gasser said...: Can you believe 5?

I can not believe this blog. Now channel 5 is badgering Joe for talking about channel 5! Excuse me, this is a free country. If Joe didn't say anything, it would mean he agrees with what 5 says about him. Of course, any real man would stand up to the one slandering them. Joe is the man in all this, 5 is acting like a baby. Mommy, Joe is talking about me.

Yes this is a free country and yes 5 can say what they want, so can Joe. But now 5 is more than acting the fool child with such a report lol, but all to true!; January 28, 2010 at 7:27 AM
Mark Gasser said...: To Anonymous,

A typical blind sheep, judging a book by it's cover. I think Joe looks great and pretty dang good for his age. I wonder what you will look like at Joe's age. a shriveled jalapeno?; January 28, 2010 at 7:33 AM
KPHO.com News Editor said...: Hi Mark,

You can read the Behavioral Research Center's news release at http://www.brcpolls.com/10/RMP%202010-I-01.pdf. They explain their methodology at the end. I do not know who hired them; however, it appears this is a yearly survey.; January 28, 2010 at 7:45 AM
Mark Gasser said...: Hey thanks KPHO.com News Editor,

Hey thanks, I will visit the site. I know you don't know if your boss hired them or not, you are an editor with a boss that has a boss I am sure. I wonder though, if they will tell what special instructions they were given as far as who is to be surveyed? Even if they are given special instruction, they won't tell at that site. Thanks again.; January 28, 2010 at 7:53 AM
www.myspace.com/unitedmajorityofamerica said...: The site has answered most of my questions. No, it was not your boss that hired them, the center chose to take it upon them selves to do these polls? I find that very interesting to say the least. Still, in all the things they say, they never really prove how they pick the ones polled. Other than they were impartial. They only interviewed 800 in this poll as well. A far cry from the millions here. Polls are very misleading, only polling 800, is one reason why. I believe there is other reasons as well.

They say they are impartial. However, we know in our society, most have motives for what they do, money. For them to take it upon them selves with no other motive, is hard for me to buy. I believe there is lobbyist involved in getting the center to take this poll. That is what I think and I guess we will never know for sure. Lobbyist and the ones that they buy are very quiet about what happens behind closed doors.

Thanks for the link, even though I am convinced my first thoughts are right, it is the system that is responsible for this poll.
The same system that loves the modern day slave and wants Joe out of their way.
Thanks again,
Mark; January 28, 2010 at 8:20 AM
Mark Gasser said...: To KPHO.com News Editor,

Sorry, the above post got a bit messed up, and I didn't address it to you. I also typed my web link instead of my name. Here it is again, the way I meant it to be posted.

The site has answered most of my questions. No, it was not your boss that hired them, the center chose to take it upon them selves to do these polls? I find that very interesting to say the least. Still, in all the things they say, they never really prove how they pick the ones polled. Other than they were impartial. They only interviewed 800 in this poll as well. A far cry from the millions here. Polls are very misleading, only polling 800, is one reason why. I believe there is other reasons as well.

They say they are impartial. However, we know in our society, most have motives for what they do, money. For them to take it upon them selves with no other motive, is hard for me to buy. I believe there is lobbyist involved in getting the center to take this poll. That is what I think and I guess we will never know for sure. Lobbyist and the ones that they buy are very quiet about what happens behind closed doors.

Thanks for the link, even though I am convinced my first thoughts are right, it is the system that is responsible for this poll.
The same system that loves the modern day slave and wants Joe out of their way.

Thanks again,
Mark; January 28, 2010 at 8:25 AM
Anonymous said...: I hope the MCSO people are stupid enough to start harassing the people @ KPHO. Imagine the cool lawsuits that could be started! :)

Oh and of course Mark Gasser works for the MCSO. I have proof.; January 28, 2010 at 9:13 AM
Mark Gasser said...: You have proof lol,

Proof you are a complete moron and an idiot to say such a retarded thing. No I don't work for Joe, I appose the system that owns all our politicians except Joe.

So you are saying Joe can not speak up against someone that slanders him? I'm sorry, we have the freedom of speech here in America. Go back to your third world country. It is clear you lack American mentality.; January 28, 2010 at 9:38 AM
Anonymous said...: Mark wants everyone out- start packing. lol indeed. I think, despite appearances Joe only hires people who can pass a written exam. I think that excludes Mark- but I could be mistaken.

8 of the 11 posts before this are from him. Do you really think he cares what anyone else has to say?

If you know of any verifiable facts about Arpaio or MCSO, please post them along with your source(s).; January 28, 2010 at 11:32 AM
Anonymous said...: I think every county needs a Joe Arpaio!!; January 28, 2010 at 11:48 AM
Anonymous said...: "Oh and of course Mark Gasser works for the MCSO. I have proof."

Nobody would be surprised. Can you prove it here? Mark says he doesn't- now lets see, how much of a truth-teller has he proven to be? One positive sign is that he immediately started calling you names- so he's squirming. Maybe he thinks that if he can get everyone (else) to leave the country, Joe's job will be easier and he'll be able to do it.

I still have trouble believing that MCSO would hire someone with Mark's lack of intelligence. But look who's da' Sheruf.

The old "attack the media" ploy has never worked- am I mistaken about that?; January 28, 2010 at 11:49 AM
Anonymous said...: "I think every county needs a Joe Arpaio!!" So- are you saying you think inbreeding is a good thing? Hi Mark.; January 28, 2010 at 11:50 AM
Anonymous said...: We need fewer people like Joe the tyrant in politcs. One man's ambitions should not dictate what laws that one man chooses to follow or disobey especially when that guy is a law enforcement officer.; January 28, 2010 at 12:08 PM
Anonymous said...: Don't give up Joe!!! You will come out of this on top, and even stronger.; January 28, 2010 at 12:22 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To Channel 5,

Your reporter Jose Miguel, says he tried to contact Joe's office twice with emails., even though this is against the normal means of contact for all news stations other than yours apparently, your own words told.

The sheriff's office, according to the video link you provided, has yet to here back, when Jose Miguel was asked to provide proof that he even sent these emails to Joe’s office. Again, allegedly sent, against normal prodigal for all other news media.

How come your reporter won‘t respond? How hard is it for Jose to copy the email from his sent email file, if he did indeed send the emails like you all are claiming he did? The sent file will provide the time and day he sent them. How hard is that to do? Why won’t you provided the sheriff's office with simple proof they have requested? The sheriff’s office made valuable time for you, are you to valuable to make time for them?

It is clear to me why he has not responded, he never sent these 2 emails, that is why. Are you people making up slanderous lies now? I know I know, if any part of what you say is true, you can say anything right? That is how our system ran media works. Even if something is not true, they can still say it.

Here is some great proof of that if you need more. Yes it is off the subject at hand.

(Another great example of how our media lies. channel 5, aired the story about China drilling for oil, fifty miles off American shore and America couldn’t, because of the conservationist? You aired this story multiple times, saying how unfair it is. Many agree it was unfair and believe you. But it was a complete lie, China was not doing anything of the sort. No one else was either! I know, you were only telling it like it was. That’s how the system ran media works. First the politician tells the lie, then the media airs it and then the majority believes it. Making the majority completely blind sheep. Politician and the media, only told it like the oil lobbyist said to tell it.)

No, you are not more valuable than Joe and the majority. Not when we know the truth. Next time follow the procedures all the other stations do. You are not the only public Joe‘s office serves. In fact, you are nothing without the public. So you better start serving it your self. Joe is doing his job by the books, better than any other sheriff in America. Maybe it’s time you start? Remember who your true boss is, us!

If I am wrong, and the emails were indeed sent to Joe‘s office., then please provide the proof to these 2 sent emails. All on here are more than anxious to see as well.; January 28, 2010 at 12:46 PM
Anonymous said...: The Majority dislike Joe. Accept that FACT and get on with your pathetic cheer leading live loser.; January 28, 2010 at 2:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Mark Gasser: If I am not mistaken- then VP Cheney made that claim and it was very widely reported based on his stature (certainly arguable). Do you know how many other news outlets reported it? Please share your amazing stores of knowledge!

They are reporting what they consider to be fact. I do not watch channel 5 news, as I consider it to be too glitzy, and generally lacking substance. There are really no very good local TV news stations, in my opinion. However what they report- if you can get past the slogans, sound effects, odd camera angles, and dramatic lighting- is in keeping with the ever declining standards of journalism. That is- they try to verify the information before airing it, except in cases like emergencies (or celebrity gossip) that have to be aired immediately. At least that's the impression I get from reading on their website and occasional viewing of their newscasts.

Now, what about you, Mark? Who verifies your "facts"? Nobody. And hardly anyone believes you based on what I see here.; January 28, 2010 at 2:38 PM
Anonymous said...: Good work Joe to you and all at the MCSO.
You have a lot of supporters out here.; January 28, 2010 at 2:44 PM
JW Simms said...: Arizona transfers dozens of 'criminal aliens' to ICE custody
by Catherine Holland
Posted on January 28, 2010 at 8:24 AM
Updated today at 10:28 AM
******ch-3 ktvk

BUCKEYE -- With prison costs at more than $1 billion per year, Arizona is making some big changes in how it houses criminals.
On Thursday morning, Arizona began transferring illegal immigrants who have been convicted of nonviolent crimes from the Arizona State Prison Complex in Buckeye to federal custody to serve out the last three months of their sentences.
Fifty-one prisoners were transferred Thursday morning. After being taken off the Arizona Department of Corrections but, each inmate was processed, searched and then restrained with zip ties before being loaded on to an ICE bus.
According to the Arizona Department of Corrections, more than 1,200 prisoners will be moved over the next two fiscal years.
The savings to Arizona is expected to be about $5.7 million.
The cost of feeding and housing the 51 prisoners transferred today totals about $3,000 per day.
Charles Ryan, Director of the Arizona Department of Corrections, said transferring these prisoners to ICE will open up some bed space in Arizona's prison system.
"We are returning to federal custody those inmates that otherwise should, in fact, be in their control," Ryan explained. "These inmates are going to be transferred to ICE custody within 90 days of their end-of-sentence dates. We're we're transferring these people prior to the end of sentence, but they're going from our custody to ICE custody. They are not going to the street."
The 51 inmates transferred today are the first of about 400 who will be moved this fiscal year. Next year, that number could be as high as 800.
"This will, we believe, help reduce the operating cost of our prison system," Ryan said. "These people belong in the custody of the federal system."
About 15 percent of Arizona's prison population is in this country illegally.
"The largest contributor are inmates from South America and Mexico," Ryan said. "We have more than 6,300 criminal aliens that need to be deported and returned their countries of origin after they've finished their sentences."
Ryan said the inmates have been warned that they are not to come back, and they will face prosecution and longer incarceration if they do.
"That is the message from the governor and our Legislature," Ryan said.
In addition to the transfer of criminal aliens, some nonviolent offenders who are U.S. citizens could be eligible for temporary release to the community based on approved service programs. Ryan said that happens routinely.

"" Where is this story on KPHO, KPHO not biased? Yeah Right!!

And to know that the Good sheriff Joe Arpaio is the one that got this ball rolling does my heart good. J.W. Simms.; January 28, 2010 at 4:16 PM
JW Simms said...: Send them all back to Mexico in a box, with the backs of their heads missing and make their illegal brats carry the box across the border. I for one am sick to death of these illegal scum and the infection they've spread across the United States. J.W. Simms; January 28, 2010 at 4:23 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To Anonymous.
My facts are easy to verify, the power lies right below your finger tips.

As far as what the media considers news, are you to say no businesses, lobbyist, and advertisers, don't affect what is reported on in our media? Do you think there is benefits for the media to report on certain issues? Did you ever wonder why all the news stations air the same news stories? Do think this is just a coincidence, with all the hundreds of news stories going on? Like how the money spent on the court house getting built right now, is costing four hundred million. How that money could of kept a lot of police men employed. Instead they have to lay police officers off, because of budget cuts.

The media will blame Joe for the rise in crime because of less police officers, even though Joe opposed this courthouse. How come this outrage is not in our headline news media coverage? Less police will affect all the majority. We pay for the cost of crime. Yet this is not a huge story. I guess the media doesn’t realize who their real boss is, until we say so.

Instead the media makes HEADLINE news with such a silly thing as, what they call news, dog poop? Then blame Joe for not cleaning it up? It is not Joe‘s job to clean up dog poop, only humans. And there‘s plenty of that to clean up here. They make big news out of the ones for the courthouse instead. How they are accusing Joe’s office for harassment. Saying he used wrongful tactics to debate the spending of money on the new courthouse. Had Joe succeeded in stopping this unneeded new court house, NO police would be getting laid off in any of Joe’s cities.

Do you believe the politicians and media are not controlled by the same system that hates Joe? Please, think about it for a bit, and get back to me.; January 28, 2010 at 4:30 PM
Anonymous said...: Thanks for posting some news, J.W. Simms. AZ needs to save the money. None of the credit goes to Joe Arpaio.

We know how you feel about people who don't match your white skin (which you did not choose, but you seem to think is somehow superior). There aren't that many people, I don't think, in favor of illegal immigration.

But think of this, you want the illegals out of the country because you are (presumably) a US citizen. We'll set aside for now your unfounded prejudices. A very small proportion of what you allege is backed up by economists and other scholars who study the issues. They refrain from the disgusting name calling, viewing these people as human beings and according them commensurate dignity. However, think about all of the US citizens who want people with racist views like yours out of the country. How many of the illegals can say the same of their countrymen? One wonders.

And one wonders how you know that channel 5 will not air this story? The day isn't over, and they could air it another day just the same- after they confirm it.; January 28, 2010 at 4:39 PM
JW Simms said...: The great Nation of "IRAN" could teach the United States Government, a thing or two about illegal immigration policy, just ask the three American hikers who were caught sneaking across the border into Iran, to do who knows what. Those three are now stuck in an Iranian prison in solitary confinement facing a trial and possible execution. Now!!! that's my idea of immigration law. J.W. Simms.; January 28, 2010 at 4:41 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: You'll have to excuse Mark's obsessive posting. He truly does believe that people are reading his posts.; January 28, 2010 at 4:45 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To Liz f

"You can lead a blind sheep to the truth, but you can't make them swallow it." I know you read it, but in one and out the other.; January 28, 2010 at 4:59 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Yes, Mark - I read your posts because everybody needs a good laugh once in a while!

Are you really a person or are you a bot that lives on KPHO. You seem to be here 24/7 and reply to me within a few minutes no matter what time of day or night it is.

I'm sorry your life is so dull. I would have been out here baiting you more since last weekend, but, unlike you, I have more going on in my life than blogging - things like family, a job, a home to take care of, friends to meet, places to go, things to do ... I'm sure you might not grasp the concept, but I have "a life".

Now, on to discussion with people with intellect - don't you think that KPHO's next interview/article should address how Arpaio will serve the citizens of Phoenix, which is a part of Maricopa County, by diverting the time and money he currently wastes pursuing his personal vendettas against other politicians to actually help to keep the streets of Phoenix safe now that, barring some miracle, more than 300 police officers will be laid off? If he can conduct his "crime suppression sweeps" at 32nd Street and Bell, he should be able to provide MCSO officers to the same general area to back up Phoenix PD in going after criminals of any race. That is, IF (and it's a BIG IF) his goal REALLY is to make the Phoenix metro area a safe place to live.; January 28, 2010 at 5:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Some idiot can call the "flat earth" belief the truth but that doesn't make it so.

Your version of the truth, Mark Gasser, is just that- your version- it really has ZERO to do with the truth. That's why you provide no sourcing for you purported facts. And I do read your posts. I can't speak for everyone who does, but I'm sure that those who know anything either feel sorry for you because you're delusional, or feel as though you are trying to make fools of them so you have some company.

FACT
Mark Gasser makes up names for those who disagree with him

FACT
Mark Gasser accuses those who disagree with him of being criminals, illegal aliens, stupid, on someone's payroll or a combination thereof

FACT
Mark Gasser uses the word FACT to refer to anything he chooses, whether he has made it up or repeated something he's heard, or a non-statistic that seems obvious to him

FACT
Mark Gasser claims to speak for the "United Majority of America"

FACT
Mark Gasser is not willing to provide any specific information about the "United Majority of America", except a link to his website (which nobody except him considers legitimate information)

FACT
I could go on and on like this

Source: Mark Gasser's posts in these threads

You're a legend in your own mind, Mark. While I could go on, I have better things to do with my time. If anyone is interested all they need to do is read your posts. If someone has strong malware protection- they can go to Mark Gasser's website, that he misrepresents as that of a majority of Americans. He won't say who appointed or elected him to mis-speak, but it's obvious he's deluded himself into believing that he represents someone other than Mark Gasser. But the only one who really cares is, you guessed it, Mark Gasser.

Liz reports news and typically cites the source(s) of her information. She seems to know something of psychology, since she has labeled your posts as obsessive. She's being very mild in my view.; January 28, 2010 at 5:27 PM
Anonymous said...: I like your post, Mark: "It is not Joe‘s job to clean up dog poop, only humans." Joe's not human, right? Does he own any dogs? I could insert an insult here, but you don't need any help with that.; January 28, 2010 at 5:54 PM
Mark Gasser said...: .Hey thanks Liz,
for proving you are a liar. I thought you first said no one reads my comments? What is it, now you say you do read them? Like I said, "You can lead a blind sheep to the truth, but you can't make them swallow it."

Have you been watching channel 5 news? They were talking about the over three hundred police employees and police officers in Phoenix alone, that are losing their jobs.

Who was right and who was wrong? I was right, the court house Joe apposed is causing the lost of these police workers. I know, it will be Joe's fault when crime goes up. You will agree it is Joe's fault too. That is how much of a blind sheep you are; January 28, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Anonymous said...: J.W. Simms: In what way do you mean "The great Nation of "IRAN". What do you think is great about it? Ever been there? Want to go?

I think we could get together some donations to get you a one-way ticket.; January 28, 2010 at 5:57 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Liz, you are too much,
you are already blaming Joe for the officers and police workers being laid off? You are a truly brain washed fool! It is the four hundred million on the court horse casing this you idiot. Get your head out of you meme rear end and face the facts fool. Instead of changing them. Just like I predicted a blind dumb sheep like you would do. Too much you are Liz, way too much. I'm glad I read the last part of your wine. Thanks for showing ALL here what a brain dead you truly are.; January 28, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Mark - I should have known you would reply within the hour.

I mispoke. I should have said "no one really cares what you think" rather than "no one reads your posts".

Umm, about the Phoenix PD officers losing their jobs, I think I was the first to post about that, so don't go there with me. I asked how Joe Arpaio will re-delegate his resources to help keep the Phoenix Metro Area safe in light of these lay-offs, or will he simply keep wasting our tax dollars on his personal vendettas.

You are real piece of work Mark. When do you sleep?; January 28, 2010 at 6:10 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Mark -

No, YOU are 'too much'.

"Liz, you are too much,
you are already blaming Joe for the officers and police workers being laid off? You are a truly brain washed fool!"

Show me where I said that the lay-off's are Joe's fault.; January 28, 2010 at 6:12 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Liz,
Oh and thanks for explaining where you were. I was afraid yout husband ended his misery and ended you. Oh well, maybe next time.; January 28, 2010 at 6:12 PM
Anonymous said...: "the court house Joe apposed is causing the lost of these police workers." Really? That's quite a leap! Your whole post is quite comical.

Are you trying to be funny?; January 28, 2010 at 6:13 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Another misconception by Mark -

"You are a truly brain washed fool! It is the four hundred million on the court horse casing this you idiot."

The Phoenix PD is because of CITY budget cuts. The Court House is COUNTY budget.

The 2 have nothing to do with each other.

My question was whether or not Joe Arpaio will transfer resources from his pursuit of personal vendettas to the job of backing up Phoenix PD in their efforts to control crime.

You need to think before you post, Mark.

XXX
OOO; January 28, 2010 at 6:16 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To Liz,
no matter how you say it, you are blaming Joe already. Yes you posted that before me, but I didn't read it until I posted the first comment after your fact twisting post When I saw your post, I saw the proof for what I predicted.

Joe makes his county billions, it is people like the ones Channel 5 idolizes that is wasting four hundred thousand. Get your figures straight and quit wasting our time with your brain dead wonders.; January 28, 2010 at 6:18 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Mark -

"Liz,
Oh and thanks for explaining where you were. I was afraid yout husband ended his misery and ended you. Oh well, maybe next time"

Ummm ... as I said before, my EX is sitting in a recliner in Minnesota where I left his "lazy collect disability because I can while I drink beer and watch football all day" Azz back in 1994. He's probably in front of the computer as much as you are, blogging and blogging and blogging... thinking anyone cares what he has to say. LOL!; January 28, 2010 at 6:21 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Sorry Liz, that last part was meant to say four hundred million, not thousand. Here is what is looks like in number form
$400,000,000.00 That is enough to hire more police, not lay them off. Don't blame Joe, blame the system for this lay off. Tell the system you love so much to do something, Joe tried.; January 28, 2010 at 6:23 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Stupidest post of the day goes to:

"To Liz,
no matter how you say it, you are blaming Joe already. Yes you posted that before me, but I didn't read it until I posted the first comment after your fact twisting post When I saw your post, I saw the proof for what I predicted."

WTF Mark! Read and think before you post!
ROTFLMFAO!!!!!

And I rest my case - you CANNOT point to anything I said that implies I blame Joe Arpaio for the lay-offs in the Phoenix PD.

Gotcha Again Markie Markie!; January 28, 2010 at 6:24 PM
Mark Gasser said...: lol, you are too funny Liz. Ok, when crime goes up and Joe keeps arresting illegals in his sweeps, then you are going to blame him right?; January 28, 2010 at 6:27 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Joe,
Thanks for trying to save that $400,000,000.00. I know you tried to do what was best for the majority. I'm sorry you will lose law enforcement officers on your streets. This money would of hired more law enforcement, like you knew it would. You knew we couldn't afford these nice pretty offices for the ones harassing you now in Federal court. No one listened to you Joe. Sorry the system won. At least you tried to help us the majority.
Thanks again Joe.; January 28, 2010 at 6:36 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Mark,

Read and think before you post:

"This money would of hired more law enforcement, like you knew it would."

You meant "This money would HAVE hired...."

You are mistaking would've with would of. They are not the same thing.

I thought those of you who work for Joke needed to pass some sort of basic skills exam??? Why I thought that, I'm not sure, because looking at Joe on many of the videos that exist, he clearly couldn't pass them...; January 28, 2010 at 6:58 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Mark -

"lol, you are too funny Liz. Ok, when crime goes up and Joe keeps arresting illegals in his sweeps, then you are going to blame him right?"

No, not necesssarily. When crime goes up because of the economic necessity of laying off police officers and Joe continues to waste thousands upon thousands of dollars pursuing a case against Don Stapley for some private board campaign spending issue (while ignoring the SCA - SHERIFFS COMMAND ASSOCIATION - FRAUD) instead of spending those resources on fighting crime in Phoenix, then I'll have more of an issue with his antics than I already have. Although I'm not sure how I can be more than 100% P*ss'd off!; January 28, 2010 at 7:02 PM
Anonymous said...: Sounds like Mark has everything figured out. He is a born leader. How do I know this? Because all born leaders spend 24/7 posting to a blog from their mom's basement, right? They don't spend their days RUNNING THINGS or making IMPORTANT DECISIONS for the rest of us, right?

L O S E R; January 28, 2010 at 7:06 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Hey Anonymous -

I LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK! ROTFL!; January 28, 2010 at 7:11 PM
JW Simms said...: To the person who started their post with this, ( Thanks for posting some news, J.W. Simms. AZ needs to save the money. None of the credit goes to Joe Arpaio. ) You are full of crap!!! The sheriff started all!! of the ( illegal alien ) arrest and incarceration of said vermin, because no other law enforcement agency in the state would. And now that the sheriff and MCSO has gotten the ball rolling for the good of the "legal" citizens of Maricopa county, and the state, everybody else wants to jump in the wagon for a free ride and take credit for the sheriffs hard work. Until the other law enforcement agencies pull their own weight, the SHERIFF" and MCSO" get all!! of the credit.

Now then on to some of your other (BS) that you have poster here. Just how much dignity and respect would you afford an ( illegal Mexican ) who would dig in the dirt with his bare hands to crawl on his belly under a fence designed to keep him out, by a country that does not! Want him here? An ( illegal Mexican ) who would lead his fat pregnant wife and two-three snotty nose kids across a hundred miles of desert in 110 plus degree heat, with a gallon of water between them and less than a 50/50% chance of getting where he thinks” he is going? The border patrol pick up these not so “dignified bodies” every day in the summer here and still they keep on coming!. How dignified do you think ( 30-40 illegal Mexicans ) crammed into a two room house, held by human smugglers look! when the sheriff kicks in the door to save their butts? DIGNITY!! I think not.

As far as disgusting name calling goes, people that disgust me deserve to be called disgusting names, so be careful pal you’re due for an earful. As for my white skin? Of course that makes me superior to other races as it is for all whites, of that there can be no doubt. In the beginning, this country was fought for and won by the whites for the whites, all other races remain here by our good graces.

You keep calling me a racist. Am I a racist? In all honesty? I suppose so, but I like to refer to myself as a selective racist, which means my racism is not completely limited so much as to skin color it’s self, as to what is hidden beneath that skin. Now then I have to tell you this, all people have a racist attitude of one form or another, no matter what color they are. The only difference between them and me, is that they will not admit it in public. If you try to tell me that you have never had a racist thought or called another race a derogatory or disgusting name, then I’ll have to call you a liar. If they eradicated this country of all people such as myself with a racist attitude, then I can assure you this entire country would be people less! J.W. Simms.; January 28, 2010 at 7:16 PM
Anonymous said...: Joe and his fat cronies should remember than, an enemy created is an enemy for life and they have made a lot of very powerful enemies. This is far from over and the worst is yet to come fat ass!; January 28, 2010 at 7:21 PM
Anonymous said...: Liz: "You need to think before you post, Mark." It's scary, but that's what he's doing. Imagine if he posted without thinking beforehand! Thinking people, of course, couldn't tell the difference. It explains why his posts are so amazing and faultless (in his mind).

Since you have some understanding of math, Liz, and Mark must struggle and re-think the numerical concepts - he felt the need to explain that $400M, looks like this "...." in number form; it's "numeral, or numeric", Mark (compare number and numeral in a dictionary). Since "majority" is a math-related construct, it explains that delusion of his too. He doesn't understand that different governments have their own budgets.

Speaking of math, Mark, how many illegals has MCSO arrested within the past two months? Surely you know. And how many have been arrested in the same period by other law enforcement agencies in Maricopa County? Otherwise your statement is meaningless to all except you. The only point it makes is your lack of information and your eagerness to talk about that of which you know nothing. For example, you accuse Liz of murder- based on what? Solely on your desire to obscure the facts and promote your utterly ignorant (or more probably delusional) point of view.

How did MCSO determine the immigration status of the individual prior to the arrest? Important, since they're taking credit for immigration enforcement.

Are you trying to prevent yourself from having a shred of credibility (let alone decency), or can you just not help yourself, Mark?

It would not surprise the well-informed that criminals think that they can get away with a lot in Arpaio's jurisdiction. The numerals prove it.; January 28, 2010 at 7:24 PM
Anonymous said...: J.W. Simms- I will leave it to others to determine what I am full of. Your judgment of this issue is far from accurate. In my judgment, however, you are a racist. That means that your judgment is skewed- hence the term "prejudice", or pre-judging.; January 28, 2010 at 7:30 PM
Anonymous said...: What is J. W. Simms problem?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/wittmann-az/TMI6ME6QMOC2GOKTG; January 28, 2010 at 7:36 PM
Anonymous said...: LOL, like the selections;

Click on an option to vote

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He's an idiot.
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Mother weaned him too soon.
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He's a loner.
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He's a mental midget.
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All of the above

What is J. W. Simms problem?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/wittmann-az/TMI6ME6QMOC2GOKTG; January 28, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Anonymous said...: When a fool calls me a name- do you really think I give it a second thought- J.W. Simms? Since you are quite adept at jumping to the wrong conclusion- I don't.

You're desperate. I feel disgusted that illegal immigrants die in the desert- but for humanitarian reasons. I don't think you can relate to that based on your posts. They shouldn't be trying to enter illegally, but they are human beings and nobody, not even an animal should suffer like that.

Joe, come to think of it, brags that animals live in better conditions than many of his inmates. That speak volumes about him.; January 28, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Anonymous said...: JW Slimes out making new friends on the internetssssss.... :); January 28, 2010 at 7:47 PM
Anonymous said...: "Today, he (Chief deputy Hendershott) is the highest-paid Sheriff's Office employee, with a $177,486 salary. He receives a $63,366 state police pension for a combined annual income of $240,852. Arpaio, whose salary is set by state law, makes $100,824 a year."

Please read the whole article- it is a disgusting expose of a little slice of how Arpaio runs MCSO. You can find it here:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2009/10/25/20091025hendershott1025.html; January 28, 2010 at 7:49 PM
Anonymous said...: He and his drones claim to be saving taxpayer money. LIE!; January 28, 2010 at 7:51 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Anonymous 2 posts above gave a link to an article about how Joe runs MCSO. Click on it. It's good reading material!

And has nothing to do with whatever Mark Gasser and JW Simms are blah blah blah-ing about!

Everyone have a great night. I'm out of here for now.; January 28, 2010 at 8:10 PM
Anonymous said...: Think this current debacle won't take down fatty along with Arpaio? You're wrong. I am sure fat ass is the 2nd most desired target by the FEDS.; January 28, 2010 at 8:32 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Just had to share this about Blimpie:

"Hendershott always has been determined to get what he wanted.

While working at U-Haul International before becoming a deputy, he said he spotted "the most beautiful woman" in the break room and got the word out that he was her boyfriend - even though they weren't dating.

He said the move "took care of any intrusion," and he had a buddy pull her personnel file. Hendershott found out she spoke Spanish, and he asked her out in that language. Within a few years, he and Lorraine were married."

And this is Joe's "right hand man". Are you F-ing kidding??? He spread false rumors about his relationship with this woman and, trust me, my boss graduated with David and says he was a slob even back in high school. He had a "buddy pull her file" and then "found out she spoke Spanish" and now persecutes Hispanic persons.

What a charmer you are, Blimpie! The only persons I know of that LOVE you are Arapio, Thomas, Hendershot, Gasser and Simms.

What a pathetic life you live!; January 28, 2010 at 8:35 PM
Anonymous said...: I wouldn't be surprised, Liz. Thanks for the post! Is there a link for that info? And do you know whether they're still married?; January 28, 2010 at 8:39 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Hey Mark!

Where are you, buddy?

You haven't posted anything for an hour or so now.

Is that because you finally got your warm milk and cookies and got tucked in by your mommy? Or is it because you have no reply to my posts that insist that you point out where I am accused (by you) of saying that Shurff Joe is responsible (at fault) for 300 plus Phoenix PD officers being laid off?

What's going on, Markie Markie? Where are you? Why do you suddenly have no comment? Yes, son, I'm egging you on. I need another laugh before I go to bed and your posts are always good for a heart felt hardee har har.; January 28, 2010 at 8:47 PM
Anonymous said...: Sorry, Liz- I should've read the article first. Never mind the question.; January 28, 2010 at 8:51 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Anonymous who said:

"I wouldn't be surprised, Liz. Thanks for the post! Is there a link for that info? And do you know whether they're still married?"

I don't know whether or not they are still married. And I really don't care, other than that I hope She has found someone attractive. Blimpie sure isn't.

The link is above like 7 posts above this one. Put on your seat belt and crack open a beer....; January 28, 2010 at 8:52 PM
JW Simms said...: Hey!! Liz F, oh by the way, I definitely know what the "F" stands for. Well!! you two bit old divorced Mexican hack how's it going, still looking for love down in the black part of south Phoenix? J.W. Simms.; January 28, 2010 at 9:17 PM
Anonymous said...: This is not the first board where people have grown to hate JW Slimes,

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/wittmann-az/TMI6ME6QMOC2GOKTG; January 28, 2010 at 9:22 PM
Anonymous said...: Mark Gasser, and J.W. Simms are very particular about their idols. Very few can meet their utterly low standards. Who in their right mind would want their approval?; January 28, 2010 at 9:24 PM
Anonymous said...: J.W. Simms- your comments about Liz say much more about you than her. She invokes facts, you invoke invective. You lack wit, and wisdom. I felt I had to explain or you'd never understand. You two enjoy your little world while you can!

Nobody would ever confuse either of you with gentlemen!; January 28, 2010 at 9:28 PM
JW Simms said...: Anonymous said...

What is J. W. Simms problem?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/wittmann-az/TMI6ME6QMOC2GOKTG

Well I'll be damn!! If I had to guess, I would guess this post is from ( Elliot ass ) Well, posting as Anonymous now ( Elliot ass?) you always were a coward. J.W. Simms.; January 28, 2010 at 9:31 PM
Anonymous said...: From the aforementioned article- another example of productive use of taxpayer funds. I suggest that Joe's supporters stop whining about the budget. They obviously make up their own facts. It's no wonder they call people names instead of addressing the issues.

"Michael Manning, a private attorney who has won five wrongful death suits against the Sheriff's Office, said Hendershott is "at the epicenter of everything that office initiates."; January 28, 2010 at 9:32 PM
Anonymous said...: I'll bet they spend at least a couple grand a month just for catering to feed the Henderblimp.; January 28, 2010 at 9:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Hendershott- Arapio's right-hand man is hard on those who break the law, except when it's him (from the link above):

Hendershott, meanwhile, has had his own financial problems.

Public records show he and his wife filed for bankruptcy protection
in 1986 and 1997, and they had tens of thousands of dollars in debt discharged. The couple also owed at least $69,766 in unpaid state and federal income taxes from 1986 to 1992, documents filed with the Maricopa County Recorder's Office show. Hendershott blamed his tax problems on bad financial advice, and he said he eventually paid the debt.

J.W. Simms- you have nothing but name calling. So in your mind you must be right. Grow up.; January 28, 2010 at 9:47 PM
Anonymous said...: With the logic of the pro Arpaio people here, we got surefire proof to the AZ School system being in trouble!

If Joe was found with his pants down behind a goat, would Simms and Gasser blame the goat or the media first?; January 28, 2010 at 9:50 PM
JW Simms said...: J.W. Simms- your comments about Liz say much more about you than her. She invokes facts, you invoke invective. You lack wit, and wisdom. I felt I had to explain or you'd never understand. You two enjoy your little world while you can!

Nobody would ever confuse either of you with gentlemen!: Well Liz (F) I can't figure out here, if Mr./Mrs. anonymous is trying to get into your pants or mine but it's quite obvious neither of us are gentlemen. Although I would guess, if he/she is trying to get into yours he/she is not a racist, but! if he/she is trying to get into mine then he/she is definitely "pro white American male" J.W. Simms.; January 28, 2010 at 9:55 PM
JW Simms said...: It is a bit surprising how many anonymous Mexican, anti Arpaio blogers are here tonight. Oh well, think I'll go to bed and eat some taco, errr eat a taco and go to bed. Good night Liz(F) you little burrito chomper. J.W. Simms.; January 28, 2010 at 10:16 PM
Anonymous said...: Simms, you are a bigoted moron.

Anti-Arpaio IS NOT the same as pro-illegal. I know people with immigration agencies (law enforcement, that want to see even illgal handled, but think the Bozo Joke of a sheriff is an idiot.; January 28, 2010 at 10:19 PM
Anonymous said...: "(law enforcement, that want to see even illgal handled"

make that (law enforcement), that want to see every illegal handled; January 28, 2010 at 10:21 PM
Anonymous said...: JW Simms- you are desperate. Setting aside the FACT that I have been happily married to my one and only wife (who is a total babe, by the way) for many years- to stoop (well in your case you don't need to change position) to your pathetic invective just shows what a shell of a human you are. It also convincingly demonstrates that you have no reasonable basis for your support of the current Sheriff, and that logic is a concept you simply cannot understand. I respect Liz's posts on the topic of Arpaio. Period. Sad you can't wrap your damaged head around that. It's sadder still that you cannot manage civility.

I am sure Liz is a delightful person, but I am interested in her opinions and insights about the subject of this thread. She has made the effort to make use of her resources to inform herself- why don't you try that? Whoever, said "Simms, you are a bigoted moron" covered it, though much more succinctly.

Please share with us how you know the ethnicity of those who post and add meaningful discourse (unlike yourself)? You don't, but you don't have anything else. You would like to impose your obvious ignorance on anyone that dares question the competence of an elected official of whom you approve. Your approval is evidently based on a single criterion. You are unintentionally self-effacing, and a waste of time. You are also evidently a very lonely pervert.

When you have a single fact that is sourced from someone with credibility, we'd love to hear from you. It seems that the only people interested in you (despite your desperate solicitations) are you and Mark Gasser. When you say you're not a gentleman, it goes without saying. But don't presume to speak for me- you have a long way to go to rise to my level of civil discourse and courtesy. No time to start working on it is better than now.

But I am not sure better could be expected from someone who idolizes Arpaio and puts others down based on skin color. You take credit for being white, but you had no choice in the matter. So being an egomaniac- you feel that white must be superior. Would that your were born of another ethnicity. You evidently have nothing else to hang your hat on. To simplify into terms you can easily understand- you have accomplished nothing noteworthy yourself.

Your ramblings are often sick, but sadly you can't recognize your own illness.

By the way- I have no doubt your ego will convince you that I care what you think. Not correct. I care what decent people who might read your drivel think. It's not a positive thing as regards productive discussion of an issue that affects the citizens of Maricopa County that those of your ilk are allowed a soapbox to express your twisted views.

There's always room for civilized political disagreement. However many of your posts have nothing to do with that. Were I not anonymous, your post would be slanderous. However, others you slimed are not anonymous. How they respond is up to them.; January 28, 2010 at 11:09 PM
Anonymous said...: This Simms joke is a little man with no understanding of the world. He's like a TV channel that was noting more than JD Blowhard, Joke OurPiehole, Beck and Rush....; January 29, 2010 at 12:05 AM
Anonymous said...: Watching the Joe career death spiral is going to be epic! Go Joe! Straight to hell!; January 29, 2010 at 2:33 AM
Mark Gasser said...: About the Lawyer who gets rich from dead inmate,

Inmates die in every county jail in America. In Joe’s jails, less inmates die per capita of inmates than most other county jails. Most inmate die from suicide. Still, these attorneys get rich and blame the jails for suicide in mate deaths.

Jail is a four letter word, no matter where you end up in one. Most inmates in tent city say, “it is much nicer being outside with the sky above and the breeze blowing, compared to locked behind cement walls and bars with no sky or breeze.”

Yes Joe saves billions with his tent city and meal program. No, Joe’s jails are not any worse than the next counties, most inmates prefer tent city. No, they don’t council inmates that are stressed in jail. If they did, all the inmates would be seeing the councilor. Who here is willing to pay for counseling for all inmates? That’s what I thought, NO one. I’m not saying it wouldn’t be a good idea. It might be the only time some of these people would get some good influence in their life. Jail is one place, people would be willing to listen to some good words.

Jail is for punishment, not a chance to be counseled or rehabilitated. We the tax payers choose to make it that way.

Thanks Joe, for jails that save us billions. To bad you couldn’t take the sky and the breeze out of tent city. Most there don’t disserve it.; January 29, 2010 at 5:10 AM
Mark Gasser said...: To anonymous who wrote,
Watching the Joe career death spiral is going to be epic! Go Joe! Straight to hell!

Aww, did Joe wack your pee pee when you broke his lasw? Don't break the law, then you don't have to fear Joe. It's that simple! Joe is powerless tell you break the law. But once you do, Joe is all power. Don't unleash the power.; January 29, 2010 at 5:22 AM
Anonymous said...: I never break that law. I just enjoy watch deserving folks fall especially mean people.; January 29, 2010 at 8:53 AM
Anonymous said...: "Inmates die in every county jail in America. In Joe’s jails, less inmates die per capita of inmates than most other county jails." Do you have any FACTS backing that up- or is it just GAS?; January 29, 2010 at 9:35 AM
Anonymous said...: Joe (MCSO) was sued and lost for inmates who were mistreated and died in his jails. Read the news, Junior!; January 29, 2010 at 9:39 AM
Mark Gasser said...: To Anonymous,

Do you think Joe's jail is the only one being sued for this wide reason, mistreated? Every county jail in Amrica has been, or is being sued for this very same reason. Joe's jails see millions of in mates. What do you expect, Joe's jails to be better than everyone else's? Jail is a 4 letter word. There is many many many worse jails than Joe's. PROOF the proof is right below your fingure tips. It's called Googgle.; January 29, 2010 at 10:42 AM
Mark Gasser said...: Joe’s Pink underwear and socks,

Some say this is inhumane, when it’s really the most humane thing Joe could give his in mates, with the resources he has. No one wants to pay to council these inmates. In mates never forget their stay in jail. They remember it as if it were yesterday, for life sometimes. Most of what they remember is bitter sadness. Joe does them all a great deed. Joe gives them something to smile about, in their memories of jail. Pink socks and underwear are as humane as you can get.; January 29, 2010 at 10:43 AM
Anonymous said...: Mark Gasser, it's possible for someone to die in custody due to natural causes such as heart attack, etc. It happens every day- BUT Joe (MCSO) lost the lawsuits because the court was convinced of abuse and/or neglect on the part of his jail system.

Since you didn't back up your claims with facts (because the facts don't support your positing)- here are the facts. Disprove them if you can:

According to Phoenix New Times, the New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago,
and Houston court systems together housed more than 61,000 inmates per day
last year, and had a combined 43 federal prison-condition lawsuits fi led against
them from 2004-07. MCSO, which houses 9,200 prisoners per day, was the target
of 2,150 federal court lawsuits during the same period. That amounts to roughly
one-sixth the number of prisoners but over 40 times the number of lawsuits filed.
The payouts have resulted in an increase in MCSO’s insurance deductible from
$1 million to $5 million and a quadrupling of the insurance premium in recent
years.; January 29, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Anonymous said...: Here's another fact- posted on the website on the law firm of Michael Manning, the attorney who has sued Arpaio, MCSO:

"In 2000, Manning achieved an $8.25 million settlement against Joe Arpaio and the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office (MCSO) - the largest-ever wrongful death and civil rights settlement in the history of Arizona. In early 2006, Manning and his trial team achieved a $9 million federal court verdict against the MCSO and Maricopa County in another wrongful death case."

Joe doesn't pay these verdicts out of his own pocket- the taxpayer foots the bills.; January 29, 2010 at 11:06 AM
Mark Gasser said...: To anonymous

Every county jail in America has lost to the same kind of law suite. What is your point? Are you willing to spend the money it will take to change every country jail in America? Until you are, don't expect Joe's jails to be any different than the rest of the jails our there. Open your eye's blind sheep, see the whole picture. In mates die in ever jail and lawyers get rich from every jail, not just Joe’s.; January 29, 2010 at 11:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Sorry the point is lost on you, Mark. So do you think that since all jail systems are involved in lawsuits it's fine for Maricopa County taxpayers to pay out many times the amount of taxpayers in other jurisdictions for the incompetence of the jailers. Here are more facts (I see why you never post any that can be substantiated):

Maricopa county is spending MUCH MORE on lawsuits than other jail systems spend: From 2004 through November 2007, Arpaio was the target of 2,150 lawsuits in U.S. District Court and hundreds more in Maricopa County courts, with more than $50 million in claims being filed, 50 TIMES AS MANY prison-conditions LAWSUITS as the New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston jail systems COMBINED. - from Wikipedia, see the "Arpaio" article for references

Here's another fact: In September 2008, the
National Commission on Correctional Health Care revoked its accreditation of
MCSO’s jails for failure to provide adequate health care to inmates. Accreditation
is an important defense against lawsuits by inmates challenging prison conditions.

Do you need me to explain why that matters, Mark?; January 29, 2010 at 11:38 AM
Anonymous said...: "Every county jail in America has lost to the same kind of law suite." So do you think that maybe Maricopa County should improve to the frequency of lawsuits brought against comparable jail systems. Or is it better to just keep abusing those in custody so that taxpayers can underwrite a self-styled tough guy's ego? That's what he's been found guilty of, you know. And that's why these big penalties have been payed by the County's taxpayers.; January 29, 2010 at 11:47 AM
Anonymous said...: Not all county jails are run by bigots who believe they can harass whomever they feel, unless you go to a third world contry. How ironic that our sheriff believes he should act this way and yet scrons people who are from third world countries.; January 29, 2010 at 11:53 AM
Anonymous said...: By the way, I and most people, definitely wish that Arpaio lived up to his hype by being competent, and acting in the public's best interest instead of his own political interests. The facts don't support that he has/is, a small sample of which is evident above.

There's more.

Mark, maybe you wouldn't mind telling the readers here why MCSO's large expenditures in Honduras are important to the taxpayers in Maricopa County who footed the bill. These monies were spent by MCSO at a time that they had a $1M budget shortfall, and Joe was complaining about funding. Please, Mark, tell us why this was a worthy priority for those dollars in short supply.; January 29, 2010 at 12:00 PM
JW Simms said...: For all of you cowardly people whom post to this blog anonymously, let me tell you something!! Now is the time to pull your dead head out of your big fat Anonymous Ass!! and wake up. The state of Arizona as a whole, is about one half step out the door of the court of bankruptcies. The state is not only flat broke, it is in the hole by one billion” dollars or more. Where did all of our ( taxpayer ) money go? This is a question I have not heard one person ask, except sheriff “ Joe Arpaio” and he asked this question through investigation‘s” of the people who were in control of the money. These were all righteous investigation’s of state, city, and county politicians who had control of the money ( taxpayer ) money. I personally find nothing wrong with investigating politicians whom you suspect may be stealing from the public coffers. As far as I know, politicians do not have any special immunity from prosecution for theft of public funds (taxpayer) funds, your money! There are many, many, ways to steal from hard working people, without the use of a gun or other weapon and believe me Arizona politicians know them all.

I can still remember when “lizzy the lez” Napolitano was Governor of this state, as worthless as she was! The state was still in the black and as I recall, she was ever bragging about the ample supply of money in the rainy day fund. I believe as soon as the lez left Arizona, out the back door I might add, the politicians went into a frenzy of stuffing their pockets with (taxpayer) money from kick backs for their support of pet projects such as a stupid hundreds of millions of dollars (light rail system) that can’t even support it’s self. A hundreds of millions of dollars for a new courthouse nobody needs and few people want, except! The politicians who stand to profit from it. There are many, many, more pet projects these people drain money from, and it’s “our” money.

Now, there are other righteous investigations the sheriff is evolved in, such as the pro ( illegal immigration groups ) and there are several of them, you know! who they are. Let us not forget the investigations of the ( illegal Alien) employers, who can hire two Mexicans for less than the price of one American employee and pocket the difference, greed at it’s finest. And finally the greatest investigation in the state of Arizona, since the “Keating five” investigation, The investigation of the ( illegal Mexican Alien ) himself , the biggest drain on our financial resources yet! And also supported by many of our (sic) prominent politicians, why? Because these politicians, at least in a round about way have a relationship to the companies that hire the ( illegal Mexicans ) and therefore stand to profit from their existence here. These are all warranted investigations conducted on behalf of the ( taxpayer ) to determine where the hell the ( taxpayers ) money is going and to whom. The sheriff is already a wealthy man and has nothing to gain by these investigations except” the satisfaction of knowing he is doing the job he has sworn to do when he accepted the office of the sheriff.

So Mr. /Mrs. Anonymous poster” and the news media, how the hell you can persecute the sheriff for doing the job that we the ( taxpayer ) elected him to do and! Demand that he do, is well beyond my scope of understanding. It makes me wonder, are you all! Really that stupid or are you all, just plain NUT’S? J.W. Simms.; January 29, 2010 at 1:24 PM
Anonymous said...: Mark Gasser said: "Every county jail in America has lost to the same kind of law suite. What is your point? Are you willing to spend the money it will take to change every country jail in America? Until you are, don't expect Joe's jails to be any different than the rest of the jails our there." Then Mark, as usual, went on to call names. He doesn't have facts to back his point of view, so that's how he vents his frustration. Why don't you just change your opinion, Mark- so you can back it up with proven facts?

We're not talking about every jail system in the country here. Our money goes for our jails, and other counties pay for theirs. Does that make sense to you? So I don't know why you say "Are you willing to spend the money it will take to change every country jail in America"? This is about the jails in Maricopa County- so don't try to change the subject. Seems like you'd rather spend your taxes on lawsuits and insurance for poorly run jails. And by the way, what would be wrong with expecting them to be better than other jails in the country, since we have a Sheriff who claims to be better than any other? Lets hold him to his own standard.

Another point is that Joe's jails (as you put it) are obviously inferior to those in the rest of the country. So expecting them to be different is not the point. THEY ARE DIFFERENT- IN A WAY THAT'S VERY BAD FOR TAXPAYERS. That means that they need to be fixed. Or are those charged with keeping track of how our money is spent bad people for not letting Joe Arpaio do whatever he wants, however he wants to do it?; January 29, 2010 at 1:33 PM
Anonymous said...: SOUNDS LIKE THE CORRUPT FEDS/GOV., LIBRIAL MEDIA WANT TO DO THE SAME TO OUR JOE, LIKE PALIN, MOB STYLE!; January 29, 2010 at 1:42 PM
Anonymous said...: JW Simms- you have proven that you can't argue the facts. You call people names and change the subject numerous times. Facts are facts, no matter whose name, or none, is given. Aren't we all anonymous here really, since we have no way of confirming the identity of anyone posting?

When you have pertinent information, reliably sourced, feel free to respond to the facts of how badly Joe Arpaio is treating the taxpayers, not to mention those in his custody. The state budget issues, I am sure, are addressed elsewhere, if that's where your interests lie.; January 29, 2010 at 1:44 PM
Anonymous said...: Seems like just about all politicians are corrupt and Joe Arpaio is not an exception. He should be prosecuted just like the other bums.

Someone said he's wealthy-- where'd he get it in his "public service" career?; January 29, 2010 at 2:08 PM
Anonymous said...: Mark:

Watch out for that milk truck. I asked the guards if you came by and they said no, but the invitation still stands. Maybe I can teach you some real facts about the illegal immigration flood with real time maps and operations, but I doubt you would listen anyway. I have a feeling that you have a loop button that plays the same tape over and over.. go joe, Blah Blah Blan go joe, blah blah, blah Blow Joe...; January 29, 2010 at 2:14 PM
Anonymous said...: Sorry, looks like Mark Gasser has gone home, and JW Simms' shift has begun.

Neither has refuted the numerous facts posted above, about how Arpaio does his job.

Aside from the posts trying to change the subject to the many others who've wasted tax dollars (the courthouse is a favorite)-- We've seen posts to the effect of: "Why don't you people leave Joe alone to do the job he was elected to do"? Well, he's been left alone, and look what he's done.

Now it's time for people to be informed and hold him responsible for doing his job very badly and wasting the taxpayer's money. Read the facts above, and deal with reality.; January 29, 2010 at 2:52 PM
Anonymous said...: JW Simms here is a fact for you. I spent a 24 hr period in tent city and I can assure you we treated Taliban prisoners better than Joe treats our own citizens. How do I know, because I have been over there and in there. So, there is a fact for you.; January 29, 2010 at 3:08 PM
Anonymous said...: Now, that's an interesting fact. There are valid arguments on both sides of the treatment of detainees at Gitmo. But there's are standards for treatment of prisoners in the US. Of note above is this:

In September 2008, the National Commission on Correctional Health Care revoked its accreditation of MCSO’s jails for failure to provide adequate health care to inmates. Accreditation is an important defense against lawsuits by inmates challenging prison conditions.

Gitmo detainees can't sue, but MCSO has paid out tens of millions for mistreating inmates, sometimes leading to the death of someone in the custody of Sheriff Arpaio. Even if the person was a rotten scoundrel, he/she was a human being, and their grieving families were not convicted of anything. Those are facts.; January 29, 2010 at 3:17 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Do you think Joe's jail is the only one being sued for this wide reason, mistreated? Every county jail in Amrica has been, or is being sued for this very same reason. Joe's jails see millions of in mates. What do you expect, Joe's jails to be better than everyone else's? Jail is a 4 letter word. There is many many many worse jails than Joe's. PROOF the proof is right below your fingure tips. It's called Googgle.

To anonymous who wrote,
Watching the Joe career death spiral is going to be epic! Go Joe! Straight to hell!

Aww, did Joe wack your pee pee when you broke his lasw? Don't break the law, then you don't have to fear Joe. It's that simple! Joe is powerless tell you break the law. But once you do, Joe is all power.
"Don't unleash the power"; January 29, 2010 at 3:27 PM
Anonymous said...: No, Mark- the point for the FINAL time is that he's sued much more based on the number of inmates in his custody. It is not that no other jail system is ever sued. But when the number of lawsuits is so much higher than comparable jails, it's time to get some answers and a new Sheriff.

If a Doctor lost most of his patients when he did hip replacements, you would argue that all doctors lose some patients, so the fact that he loses most of his patients should be ignored?

So Maricopa County taxpayers are being reamed for the egomaniacal way in which Joseph Arpaio runs his jails. That indicates that his job performance is sub-standard. It's pretty obvious, but you are quite obviously looking for idiots who will look no further than your silly nonsense, and not try to dig beyond it to find the facts.

READ CAREFULLY: Maricopa county is spending MUCH MORE on lawsuits than other jail systems spend: From 2004 through November 2007, Arpaio was the target of 2,150 lawsuits in U.S. District Court and hundreds more in Maricopa County courts, with more than $50 million in claims being filed, 50 TIMES AS MANY prison-conditions LAWSUITS as the New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston jail systems COMBINED. - from Wikipedia, see the "Arpaio" article for references

There are plenty of other examples of his incompetence. Are you complacent because he's not the only incompetent Sheriff? The citizens of Maricopa County are watching. It is, after all, their money he's wasting.

How do you defend the above mentioned information about his dealings with Honduras? Do you care to answer the questions asked above regarding this subject? Additionally can you name another Sheriff in the USA who spends taxpayer money to assist another country? Who? When? Why? How much, and for what purpose?; January 29, 2010 at 4:11 PM
Anonymous said...: Sheriff joe is like the Sheriff of nottingham.He thinks and belives he is above the law and needs to go down for Racial profiling and put in his own pink underwear.He is a fat jerk and I know god has a place for him along side of the Devil himself.Next election I have a slogan. "SAY NO TO RE-ELECT FAT JOE" if he is not in prison getting buttraped.; January 29, 2010 at 4:32 PM
Anonymous said...: There are a number of differences between being a fool, and acting like one to deliberately mislead people to their detriment.

Rather than call Mark Gasser and JW Simms childish names, I will simply ask which of these options applies.

Before either of you calls another a blind sheep, a tactic we've seen many times before- remember who is failing to post any substantive facts. Those are not opinions- even though you might assert that they are obvious, which you have both also done many times. The published reports belie your claims.

Since you impuugn any publication that doesn't accord with your prejudice and pro-Joe bias; may I ask, which publications do you think are reliable and factual?; January 29, 2010 at 4:36 PM
Anonymous said...: SHERIFF JOE DESERVES A RESPECTABLE POLITITION AWARD, HE'S DEFINITLY ONE OF THE FEW YOU CAN BE SURE HE HAS CARED & DONE FOR THE PEOPLE OF AZ.!!!!; January 29, 2010 at 5:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Not to change subject, just heard of a place in ca. where there's an abundance of cleft lips happening to kids due to supposedly toxic area...they don't speak english, wonder if they're all illegals?; January 29, 2010 at 5:11 PM
Anonymous said...: Try a media that tells/shows the true facts unlike most of the libral media....; January 29, 2010 at 5:54 PM
Anonymous said...: Name some media in which you have confidence. It seems like the only information that some care to hear is what accords with their prejudice. They will fault accurate reporting from any source, if the report challenges their preconceptions.

So name some media outlets of which you approve, Mark Gasser and JW Simms. Be specific.; January 29, 2010 at 5:58 PM
Anonymous said...: If you had any common sense you would know; January 29, 2010 at 6:06 PM
Anonymous said...: "Try a media that tells/shows the true facts unlike most of the libral media."

Really? And how does one divine that the facts are true, if one can't believe the media? Are you promoting some sort of supernatural means of just "knowing". Read some of these posts and you'll see that doesn't work. But those who believe in it, believing that they are some sort of chosen repository of truth, often resort to name calling and other childish methods in an attempt to make themselves and their information appear to be infallible. This prompts much laughter on the part of those capable of reason.; January 29, 2010 at 6:23 PM
Anonymous said...: "If you had any common sense you would know" Laughable. I don't know how you define "common sense". Come to think of it- I don't want to know. You answer specific questions with childish insults.

I don't know how to read the minds of those who will find fault with the truth. Sorry.

Your refusal to name any news sources is not cagey. It's very telling.; January 29, 2010 at 6:28 PM
Anonymous said...: Next time you criticize, or call someone names for posting anonymously- this will be remembered:

Anonymous said...

If you had any common sense you would know; January 29, 2010 at 6:34 PM
JW Simms said...: Anonymous said...

JW Simms here is a fact for you. I spent a 24 hr period in tent city and I can assure you we treated Taliban prisoners better than Joe treats our own citizens. How do I know, because I have been over there and in there. So, there is a fact for you.

Here is a fact for you pal. you are not only a criminal, you are also a freaking liar J.W. Simms.; January 29, 2010 at 7:08 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: JW Simms said:

"Well I'll be damn!! If I had to guess, I would guess this post is from ( Elliot ass ) Well, posting as Anonymous now ( Elliot ass?) you always were a coward. J.W. Simms."

ROTFL! Well, let's just say I know "JW Simms" from "elsewhere" where his account keeps getting deleted because he is vulgar and inappropriate.

I will re-post this idiot's post to reflect me speaking to him:

Well I'll be damn!! If I had to guess, I would guess this post is from ( BioHazard - azcentral ) Well, posting as JW Simms now ( BioHazard ass?) you always were a coward. Liz F - North Phoenix

Yes, I have had hours of fun getting this idiot to make a fool of himself on this and another board. Hey JW Simms - I mean "BioHazard" or a miriad of other "names" - I do know who you are and you got served, loser. You played right into it. LOL.

As far as Markie Markie goes,

Mark, at first I read your posts and thought you were ignorant: intelligent enough, but uneducated about the subject - Arpaio.

After I read more of your rambling rants and raves, I decided that it was more accurate to say you are a bull headed, arrogant, attention-craving control freak like your idol Joke Ourpiehole.

After reading your most recent selections, I have drawn a final conclusion:

YOU ARE NUCKING FUTS!; January 29, 2010 at 7:25 PM
Anonymous said...: More name calling. That's all there is when people have no facts. It's childish and doesn't reflect favorably upon those who need to resort to it. Do you have any proof to back your claims? I don't want to be a babysitter, but it's turning out that way,. Just because he was in a tent does not invalidate his information, does it?

Congratulations on not resorting to profanity. That's improvement.

"you are not only a criminal, you are also a freaking liar J.W. Simms" Yes, I understand that Joe claims that only those who have been convicted spend time in the tents.; January 29, 2010 at 7:36 PM
Anonymous said...: You people are nuts, alot of different people comment under anonymous; January 29, 2010 at 7:39 PM
Anonymous said...: The government is'nt working for us. I don't agree with top priorty giving illegals, animals, terrorists, criminals RIGHTS!!!; January 29, 2010 at 7:45 PM
Anonymous said...: The people have the right to be on joe's side because he's provided/proved he's definitly an asset to our society.; January 29, 2010 at 7:49 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: For those of you who post as "Anonymous" here, you know, you can 'pick a name' and use that name so that we can tell who is who, even if we don't know who 'who' is. Select a profile and chose Name/URL. Use a name that identifies you as someone other than Anonymous. Maybe it's BBQ1 - whatever. The board will say your post isn't accepted - do you want to try again. Try again and type in the 'bot code' word there and you will be BBQ1. At least when we see posts from BBQ1, we can relate that to other posts. When 90% post as Anonymous, we don't know who is responding to who. It gets really confusing.; January 29, 2010 at 7:59 PM
Anonymous said...: The simple and rather obvious answer is that JW Simms and Mark Gasser are xenophobes and racists. They perceive Arpaio as the greatest hope who will further their aims. Since their mindset is purely emotional and utterly un-related to reality and the facts of which reality is made, so is their argumentation.

Present a fact that doesn't support Arpaio and you will get a rabid reply. It often has no bearing on the issue raised. However in the twisted minds of these white supremacists, nothing more is needed. The superiority of their race and thus their arguments is as obvious as the color of their skin regardless of logical merit or reason.

Dare to disagree and you are the enemy. Cite a source of journalism that exposes their hero for what he is and what he does, and that source is the enemy. That's why one day they'll cite an article from a certain publication supporting their view of "the problem", the next day that publication is part of the "system [ran] media" when it publishes matters of record about him, exposing his criminality.

In their perverse minds, the only reliable sources are the ones that comport with their world view. These can change by the article- hence their refusal to say which publications are honest reporters of fact. This view shifts responsibility for their misery from themselves to a sub-human species that inflicts hardship upon them.

Unfortunately for us all, they feel that labeling someone is just as valid as reporting fact. If someone can be discredited with such a label, anything that person says is false.

Sadly, not much can be done about that. What can be done is to prosecute their "great white hope" for the crimes he has committed. They will have to deal with it.; January 29, 2010 at 8:04 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Ummmmm...

Yes, I agree with all that you just said.

Awesome post, Anonymous!

Liz F; January 29, 2010 at 8:10 PM
Anonymous said...: Not to worry! Any other white supremacist assholes who believe they can remain hidden at the local levels of government will quickly be drawn out and quartered. Little freckled faced Andy and his buddy Joe are just a couple of several potential scumbags that need to be outed. For those of you out there who believe your new little Aryan nation tactics are going to work, you are being watched, closely.; January 29, 2010 at 8:19 PM
Mark Gasser said...: You can run but you can't hide from the truth blind sheep. I know, "you can lead a blind sheep to the truth, but you can't make thes swallow it." It's time to take a drink, here are the facts.

Fact
Joe is more humane than any other sheriff when it comes to his jails.(read my comment titled “Pink under wear and socks “ and the other comment before it for an explanation of this and proof to this.)
Fact
Joe saves/make this county billions with his humane jails.
Fact
Joe tried to stop the waste of four hundred million. The ones for the system that won the spending of this money are the ONLY reason police are getting laid off in ALL our cities. Less police so these so called officials could have a nice new pretty unneeded office in an unneeded new court house.
Fact
Joe bashers blame Joe for the crime rate going up, as if it is Joe’s fault Phoenix it number one for kidnappings. Women are being kidnapped and taken to Mexico and raped. Joe is trying to change this and does sweeps. Yet the bashers say this is a waste of money! Open your eyes people, Joe is going to keep doing his sweeps, lucky for us too.
Fact
The people that talk crap about me, are just that, crap with over baked brains from Mexico.
Fact
Goldwater is an extremist, an embarrassment to the Republican party. Goldwater piss blames Joe for rising crime here, when in fact it would be much worse without Joe here.
Fact
Joes jails have less wrongful death law suites filed, than the average of most other county jails, per capita of inmates.
Fact
The same system that runs our media and politicians, wants Joe out of their way. The only news on our local media worth watching is the PBS News Hour. They tell the truth like it really is. They’re not telling it like it is for the system that runs the other media here.
Fact
The Federal government and the slave masters love and support the modern day slaves. Both have made HUGE profits from their slaves at the majorities expense. That is why both have Joe in court on bogus charges, that Joe will prove are bogus. No WE ARE NOT losing Joe to the meme slime.
Fact
This is not a college paper this is a blog comment. So no, I don’t list all the sources to these obvious facts. The power to find the proof you want to anything I say, lies right below your fingertips, it’s called googgle.
Fact
Our streets are filled with law breakers and we need a tough sheriff. Sheriff Joe is doing a better job than any sheriff before and better than any one now could do.
Fact
Joe arrest all the law breakers. If you don't like the 4 letter word jail, "don't unleash the power of the MCSO."; January 30, 2010 at 4:40 AM
Anonymous said...: The only blind sheep here is you. You choose to worship your hero no matter what evil things he does or whose innocent life he ruins. He is scum (arpaio) and so are you. Go crawl back into your hole and die!; January 30, 2010 at 5:37 AM
Mark Gasser said...: To the media brain washed that posted this lol.

READ CAREFULLY: Maricopa county is spending MUCH MORE on lawsuits than other jail systems spend: From 2004 through November 2007, Arpaio was the target of 2,150 lawsuits in U.S. District Court and hundreds more in Maricopa County courts, with more than $50 million in claims being filed, 50 TIMES AS MANY prison-conditions LAWSUITS as the New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston jail systems COMBINED. - from Wikipedia, see the "Arpaio" article for references

Man you are washed. Lets break down your so called PFOOF about Joe’s jails.

Yes, more law suites are filed and more law suite are thrown out against Joe than any “other jail systems.” No kidding. His jails are twenty times bigger than any other county jail in AZ. NOTICE your proof never said the key words. “per capita of inmates.” As far as the inmate starting law suite against Joe more than in other jails, 90 of which are thrown out of court, I believe that part of your proof. Why is this? Thirty percent of his inmates are illegal. YES illegals can file suites with attorneys sponsored by illegal activist. Once they are in custody, they can file a suite. They won’t until they are in custody, else they risk the chance of being arrested. Once arrested, they file suite, against Joe for racial profiling, abuse of rights(you have no right is any jail, not just Joe’s) and what ever other bull crap reason they can come up with. Not to mention the hundreds over pink socks and underwear. I explain why Joe does this in a previous post, proving he’s more human than most other sheriffs out there. How many of these law suites are filed by illegals, and how many are filed over pink underwear? You say I don’t have facts, look at yours, completely miss guiding. You could multiply the amount of money being spent on the already employed county attorneys to throw these suites out of court by ten times or even a hundred times. And it still would be less than the billions Joe saves us with his jails.

Your facts and reasons to hate Joe, are the facts you get from system ran media. Your all a bunch of ban wagoners too when it comes to the media. Oh, it’s cool to hate Joe, so lets bash him. It’s call mob mentality. Liz is a great example of that.

Aww I know, did you end up in one of Joe’s jail. For one, Joe didn’t write the law that got you arrested. For two, I don’t care what jail you go to, it SUCKS… It’s suppose to suck. That is the whole idea, make jail a four letter word. We have more crime here than we can afford. Joe HAS TO make his jails suck just like all the other county jails. They all have to as a crime deterrent.

Yes, I agree inmates should be getting counseling in a one on one setting, and in group therapies the rest of the day. But the tax payers refuse to pay for such programs. They can’t even afford the system we use now on inmates. We make jail a four letter word, it’s all we can afford. Joe’s jail won’t be a problem, just “don’t unleash the power of the MCSO.”; January 30, 2010 at 6:09 AM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Wrong again, Mark:

"Oh, it’s cool to hate Joe, so lets bash him. It’s call mob mentality. Liz is a great example of that."

I don't hate Joe. I wish him no ill will. I just believe that he is a corrupt politician who is abusing the powers of his office and hiding behind his fake "tough stance on illegals" to continue to take advantage of his title for his own personal gain. Furthermore, he seems to be losing touch with reality - perhaps Alzheimers - if you watch some of the video you can clearly see that he is not "sharp as a tack".

I just think he needs to be out of office and hanging out on the golf course for his golden years, with Eva serving him up as many of his favorite 'beanie weenies' as he can eat.

It's not "mob mentality". It's my right to have an opinion as an American born and raised voting citizen of Maricopa County.

Also, with regard to this comment of yours:

"The power to find the proof you want to anything I say, lies right below your fingertips"

Ummm.... thanks but no thanks. I don't think I want to be sticking my fingers up your backside, which is where you pull a lot of your "facts" and "statistics" from.; January 30, 2010 at 8:26 AM
JW Simms said...: Liz F - North Phoenix. It's time to pack up your burro, and head south you dumb stinking "WET BACK BITCH" I'm tired of your ( Liz the scuze, Guzman )attitude. J.W. Simms.; January 30, 2010 at 8:56 AM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: You're tired of me Biohazard? All the more reason for me to keep posting and pushing your buttons. The main reason I post about Arpaio is to get you and Mark to make fools of yourselves. It sure isn't hard.; January 30, 2010 at 9:19 AM
Anonymous said...: JOE. KEEP ON TRUCKING. WE ARE BEHIND YOU ALL THE WAY.; January 30, 2010 at 9:21 AM
Anonymous said...: The time is about to come when the Federal Goverment will have to stand up and take care of this problem. They have let it slip by to long, we now have a 15 million + problem and growing every day.; January 30, 2010 at 9:35 AM
Anonymous said...: About the lawsuits- give us some numbers, Gasser. These suits all have to be defended, which costs money anywhere.

The numbers speak for themselves. You're full of GAS! Just because you use the word: "Fact", means nothing- you have to then provide facts. Which you do not!

Don't think that everyone's as stupid as you guys.; January 30, 2010 at 10:37 AM
Anonymous said...: When Mark Gasser prefaces something with "Fact", it means: "Take Mark Gasser's word for this." This is in keeping with MCSO policy, as stated in the Goldwater Report:

"It is difficult to track even basic MCSO crime statistics. Local police departments, including Phoenix and Tempe, make crime rate statistics available on their websites. By contrast, MCSO’s website appears to contain no crime statistics or budget figures, except for an occasional news release."

Mark Gasser, JW Simms- do you have any countervailing information (that can be verified)? Let's see it.

You don't know what you're talking about or you'd have some fact, some convincing evidence, some reputable sources- none of which you have provided. I don't know if Mark Gasser is stupid just because his posts are, but the people reading them don't seem to be.

Now about those trips and expenditures for Honduras- when MCSO had a budget shortfall of $1M. Explain why the taxpayers should feel good about that, Mark- why was it worth it for them?; January 30, 2010 at 10:46 AM
Anonymous said...: Hmmm... I wonder why MCSO wouldn't want to do what other departments do when it comes to making crime statistics available? Could it be that they don't want people to see what a lousy job they're really doing? Why do they rely on PR, JW Simms, Mark Gasser to sway public opinion. It's because Joe Arpaio is no better at his job than Mark Gasser is at making a good impression. It would be funny if so many victims and their families were not denied adequate police work.; January 30, 2010 at 10:54 AM
Anonymous said...: Hmmmm... what's that odor? Those are facts Mark GASSER pulled out of his butt.; January 30, 2010 at 11:10 AM
Anonymous said...: JW Simms - calling Liz names isn't going to make her facts go away. She has more, remember. It just makes you look like a desperate racist child trying to defend you comic book superhero.

And no, I am white, and happily married to a beautiful woman for many years, so you can't just give me a racist label and dismiss me.

And nobody gives a kitten if you are tired of anyone's postings. It's not your board so deal with it like a... like a... like a... whatever.; January 30, 2010 at 11:16 AM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: If my posting here does absolutely nothing but annoy Mark Gasser and J.W. Simms, then it's worth my time to do it.

Oh Simms, by the way, I think you mistook me for your sister...

XXX
OOO; January 30, 2010 at 12:49 PM
Anonymous said...: Liz, with all due respect- I don't think he made that mistake. She looks just like him, same haircut, same temporal forceps indentations, and everything. In fact, she did his time in the tents. That's one reason why he thinks they're so great, and never questions the guy who runs them.; January 30, 2010 at 1:11 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Anonymous - LOL!

"She looks just like him, same haircut, same temporal forceps indentations..." Oh SNAP! Does she have to shave her face every day too?; January 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM
Anonymous said...: No, they also have the same hormones. Presumably that's why we see so much sexual rage coming from him.; January 30, 2010 at 1:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Liz- when you find time, would you post some more reporting on MCSO, and Arpaio? Some are interested in researched facts (as opposed to biased opinion posted as facts). Please reference the publication or source when you post.

Joe's worst enemy is Joseph M. Arpaio, and the best way to educate people about the truth is to publish facts.; January 30, 2010 at 2:24 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Ok, we'll start with one of the more humorous stories of the MCSO abuse of power and the violation of peoples rights. On 10-31-2002, (Halloween) Nick Tarr, the now famous "Joe Arizona" was in downtown Phoenix handing out literature in support of Prop 201, a race track gambling initiative (slots at the track)that Arpaio was against. This was a job that he was HIRED by the Prop's supporters, to do. Nick was wearing a T shirt with I (Heart) Arizona, a pair of 'souvenier' pink boxers (sold to the public) a khaki shirt with a coupld of fake badges and a "Smokey" hat. Henderschot spotted him and called DPS officers twice to arrest him. When they refused to do so, sighting Nick having 'no criminal intent', Blimpie had his own deputies arrest him for 'impersonating an officer'. Tarr was cited, but the citation later dropped. A judge hearing his lawsuit regarding the violation of his First, Fourth and Fourteenth amendments rights ruled that "a prudent would not have concluded that Tarr had committed the crime for which he was charged." Nick was awared $125,000 for the abusive arrest. You can go to any local newspaper website (AZCentral, New Times, East Valley Trib, etc) and do an archive search for Nick Tarr and find details. Here are links to a couple such articles.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2007/11/sheriff_joes_nick_tarrbaby_joe.php

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1120joe-arizona1120-ON.html?&wired

I'll post more later.; January 30, 2010 at 3:26 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: By the way, if you click on the New Times link there are a couple of photos of 'Joe Arizona'. This is why the judge ruled that "no prudent person would conclude that he was committing the crime that he was charged with". This is why DPS twice declined to intervene at Blimpie's request. Clearly, the only people who are twisted enough to think that Nick was committing a crime are Arapio, Henderschot, Candy Andy, Mark Gasser and JW Simms.

Noteworthy points are that Nick Tarr was hired by the Prop 201 sponsors to do this campaign stint on their behalf. Joe Arpaio was AGAINST 201, but FOR a competing proposition. Joe used his media PR people to aggressively inform people that Joe was for the competing initiative. Prop 201 sponsors logically decided on a more "humble" figure as their icon. This is why Nick was cited: he was representing something that Arpaio was against, and his Halloween costume poked fun at Joe's support of the competing initiative.

NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT ANY OF THIS. Except, of course, Nick's being charged.

In fact, Arpaio's attitude about anything that he doesn't support or endorse is rather humorous, in a sorry, sick way. Here's what he had to say about numerous Arizona sheriffs' endorsement of McCain's re-election to the Senate. Mind you, Joe is endorsing Hayworth.

""When you go out for endorsements with some sheriffs, so early, come on," Arpaio told AZ/DC in an interview. "What, is he worried that I'm going to be supporting J.D.? What does that mean? Why sheriffs? Where's all the chiefs of police and all that? I think we know why."

What a silly little man Arpaio is!

Read the whole story here:

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/azdc/71390; January 30, 2010 at 3:56 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: And then there is "Dog Day Afternoon".

(Sigh)

Every time I read this, I am heart broken for that poor puppy, and the family and neighborhood who had to live through this attack from MCSO and The Tank.

This is where Joe's "my officers did nothing wrong" BS started, as far as I know, and it has never changed. Joe's officers NEVER do anything wrong (eeeehhhm eeeehhmmm - excuse me while I clear my throat). Which will lead on to my next post. This is a lengthy story and I won't post the whole text here, but for those of you who are 'on the fence' about Joe Arpaio and are not familiar with this story that took place in Ahwatukee in 2004, this is a MUST READ article, regardless of whether or not you respect the New Times. This will show you the TRUE COLORS of the MCSO and their fearless leader, Joseph M. Arpaio.

I want you to ask yourselves why he could let this behavior go unpunished, resulting in the death of a puppy, and then turn around and file felony charges against Tom Lovejoy. I want you to ask yourself why these people lost their home and their pet over an unanswered traffic violation. I want you to ask yourself why this man keeps getting voted into office and the power to do these things. I want you to ask yourself "why the hell does Joe need a tank?"

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2004-08-05/news/dog-day-afternoon/full

For those of you who really want to understand this Sheriff who keeps getting voted in, please, at least 'skim' if not actually READ, this article. You will be sickened by this.; January 30, 2010 at 5:30 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Yeah. Sickening. In case you didn't read the article, here is the "highlight", if you can call it that.

"Within minutes, the upstairs of the house was engulfed in flames. Kush, Barker says, could hear Dre, his prized pit-bull puppy, yelping, and he jumped from the attic to try to save the dog.

As black smoke billowed from the house, Barker says, Kush frantically tried to get Dre to run outside, the puppy yelping "like a baby."

At one point, Dre ran from the master bedroom and bolted down the stairs toward the front door, where it came face to face with a SWAT team member. Instead of letting the dog run outside, the SWAT member reportedly launched a counterattack.

"They shot the dog in the face with a fire extinguisher when he tried to come out of the fire," says Trisha Golden, Gabrial's younger sister, who helped raise the dog and was outside the burning home calling for it to come out. She did not live at the house, but hung out there frequently, she says. She heard about the fire and came immediately. "He turned and ran back into the master bedroom and burned [to death]."

Delfino says he asked one of the SWAT officers what happened to Dre and was told that the dog had been "neutralized" with the fire extinguisher. He asked the officer if the dog had attacked anybody, and the cop said no."

...and

Joe, of course, said his officers did nothing wrong.

Shameful.

I think we should, as a community, insist that the deputy or deputies involved in this horrendous abuse of power and CRIMINAL FELONY ANIMAL ABUSE be charged and prosecuted as such.

This is the moral standard that Joseph M. Arpaio condones amongst his deputies. It is sick and depraved. Which leads me next to the Tom Lovejoy story, which I may or may not get to tonight.; January 30, 2010 at 5:54 PM
Anonymous said...: I read the article carefully, and found it disgusting. If you can get past the shameless opining in this "news" story, there are ample indications that Joe Arpaio has chosen show business over law enforcement. However, he didn't inform the people who voted him into office of it. "Jail Idol" was unprofessional, but relatively harmless. This is at the other end of the spectrum. If I were a law enforcement officer, I would be ashamed to have someone of his caliber and dubious character counted among the ranks.

People need to be informed, if only so that they know better than to rely on his office for professional quality law enforcement. I pity the MCSO deputies and other professionals who are sickened by such shenanigans on the part of Arpaio. When there's a professional Sheriff, it will be a great day for those individuals.; January 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: I agree 100%. I wish I had the power to incarcerate the deputy or deputies who did this, and Joe Arpaio and David Henderschot for standing by and letting it happen. But, at least, the DOJ is looking into these types of stories, which are, sadly, all too common. Maybe the ax is falling. We can only hope. More to come and thanks for your interest and support. Together we can rid ourselves of this cancerous, corrupt politician.; January 30, 2010 at 6:10 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Liz,
See, you are brain washed. Now because 5 Bashes Joe, your going to blame Joe for a puppy’s death? Why, most likely it was the fire fighter who shot the dog, but even is Joe's deputy did, it wasn't the deputies fault. Why? In the time that officer had to react to that dog, was under a few seconds. Who knows if or why a cop would pull the trigger on a fire extinguisher. If the dog was running at him, instinct is to defend your self. That’s all the deputy had time to do. If Joe says the officer did nothing wrong, it's because it is the truth. See how that mob mentality works now?; January 30, 2010 at 6:12 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; January 30, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Mark Gasser said...: (This is a repeat but a great example of brain washed by the media blind sheep. The puppy that the fire fighter most likely shot, is not under Joe’s authority. It is not real news either. Not when an average of one person a day is being kidnapped and taken to Mexico raped and murdered. It is sad the puppy died, Joe wasn’t there to stop it. You weren‘t in the door of a burning building either.)

To the media brain washed that posted this lol.

READ CAREFULLY: Maricopa county is spending MUCH MORE on lawsuits than other jail systems spend: From 2004 through November 2007, Arpaio was the target of 2,150 lawsuits in U.S. District Court and hundreds more in Maricopa County courts, with more than $50 million in claims being filed, 50 TIMES AS MANY prison-conditions LAWSUITS as the New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston jail systems COMBINED. - from Wikipedia, see the "Arpaio" article for references

Man you are washed. Lets break down your so called PFOOF about Joe’s jails.

Yes, more law suites are filed and more law suite are thrown out against Joe than any “other jail systems.” No kidding. His jails are twenty times bigger than any other county jail in AZ. NOTICE your proof never said the key words. “per capita of inmates.” As far as the inmate starting law suite against Joe more than in other jails, 90 of which are thrown out of court, I believe that part of your proof. Why is this? Thirty percent of his inmates are illegal. YES illegals can file suites with attorneys sponsored by illegal activist. Once they are in custody, they can file a suite. They won’t until they are in custody, else they risk the chance of being arrested. Once arrested, they file suite, against Joe for racial profiling, abuse of rights(you have no right is any jail, not just Joe’s) and what ever other bull crap reason they can come up with. Not to mention the hundreds over pink socks and underwear. I explain why Joe does this in a previous post, proving he’s more human than most other sheriffs out there. How many of these law suites are filed by illegals, and how many are filed over pink underwear? You say I don’t have facts, look at yours, completely miss guiding. You could multiply the amount of money being spent on the already employed county attorneys to throw these suites out of court by ten times or even a hundred times. And it still would be less than the billions Joe saves us with his jails.

Your facts and reasons to hate Joe, are the facts you get from system ran media. Your all a bunch of ban Wagoner’s too when it comes to the media. Oh, it’s cool to hate Joe, so lets bash him. It’s call mob mentality. Liz is a great example of that.

Aww I know, did you end up in one of Joe’s jail. For one, Joe didn’t write the law that got you arrested. For two, I don’t care what jail you go to, it SUCKS… It’s suppose to suck. That is the whole idea, make jail a four letter word. We have more crime here than we can afford. Joe HAS TO make his jails suck just like all the other county jails. They all have to as a crime deterrent.

Yes, I agree inmates should be getting counseling in a one on one setting, and in group therapies the rest of the day. But the tax payers refuse to pay for such programs. They can’t even afford the system we use now on inmates. We make jail a four letter word, it’s all we can afford. Joe’s jail won’t be a problem, just “don’t unleash the power of the MCSO.; January 30, 2010 at 6:30 PM
Anonymous said...: "most likely it was the fire fighter who shot the dog" This statement is unquestionably the product of a brilliant mind. So firefighters in your fantasy world respond to fires with firearms? Maybe that should be investigated.

No doubt your ego will force you to interpret this as a signal of capitulation. However, it's meant just like it reads: Trying to reason with you is like trying to reason with a garbage can. It's pointless. So I won't bother trying.; January 30, 2010 at 6:32 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: What about Joe saying, when being deposed, that "it's this civil rights stuff. All of that crap". The man is a freakin moron. Like you, Gasser.

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/2009/12/31/20091231arpaio-deposition-12312009-CR.html; January 30, 2010 at 6:34 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: From your 6:30 pm post, "Mark" -

" Oh, it’s cool to hate Joe, so lets bash him. It’s call mob mentality. Liz is a great example of that."

I already replied to that at your 6:09 am post. Quit repeating yourself. It's unbecoming to a gentleman such as yourself to have no brain syntax that keep him on the straight and narrow.

Find NEW stuff to harrass me with, you idiot. Don't recycle... I'll call you on the carpet every time, fool.; January 30, 2010 at 6:39 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Mark -

"At one point, Dre ran from the master bedroom and bolted down the stairs toward the front door, where it came face to face with a SWAT team member. Instead of letting the dog run outside, the SWAT member reportedly launched a counterattack."

Tell me where in there it suggests that it was a fire fighter who killed this puppy. Don't like my link? Give me one - just one - that says something else.

You are a friggin idiotic fool, Mark.

I will now spend every free MINUTE I have disputing your vomit on these boards.; January 30, 2010 at 6:45 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Liz,

Police do not qualify with a fire extinguisher, they have to qualify with other real weapons. Yes the office had baixic instruction on how to use a fire extingusher, but it isn't someithing he has strapped to his side. Maybe the dog leaping from a burning door way, did startel the office.? Maybe not being used to firing a fire extingisher, he pulled the lever with his hand. Something an officer will do right before demending his self, he will squeze hard on the handle of his pistol. If he did this extingtive action, it caused the fire extingusher to off, yet that same crip is not what fires his side arm, it is a finger, not a grip like the fire extingusher. If Joe says this deputy did nothing wrong, it is because it is the truth.; January 30, 2010 at 6:50 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Liz,

dispute all you want Liz, I could care less if you want to keep making a complete fool out of yourself. How long do you thing your comment with the F word in it, is going to last on here? It is clear you are stressed out. Have a shot or something.; January 30, 2010 at 6:59 PM
Anonymous said...: Mark- here's a question: You seem to know something about police procedure regarding firearms. Where (specifically) did you get that information?; January 30, 2010 at 7:03 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Markie -

I am not the one making a fool of myself. That would be you. Clearly, the SWAT team from Joe's TANK were the people who ran this puppy back into the inferno. I have posted my sources.

Post yours who say it isn't true, and don't reach up your rectum to do so, please.

You DO understand that most of the respondents on this board favor my posts over yours, don't you? What is your issue?; January 30, 2010 at 7:05 PM
JW Simms said...: Liz F - North Phoenix, once again brings us, all the honest to God true facts about Joe Arpaio and MCSO. Yes Sir!!! straight out of her blood, sweat and tears in depth research, of copying and pasting articles from (sic) the Phoenix New-times, not to mention her painstaking personal interview's with the "New Times" Top two reporters, the columnist who write ( savage love ) and the ( love Goddess.) Thank God, we now know the truth.

Poor, stupid, stupid Liz F, don't you know that the New-times has a bone to pick with MCSO and will write any kind of bullshit to get even with them? Since you think you're so big on facts Liz-ard, or would that be water-dog? here's a fact for you. The "Phoenix New Times" is Arizona,s own ( NATIONAL ENQUIRER!!!)Do you suppose the sheriff is going after aliens,little green ones, in conjunction with the illegal little brown bastards that hang around your house?

I tell ya Liz, you should really change your name from Liz F---s to Liz sucks. J.W. Simms.; January 30, 2010 at 7:10 PM
Mark Gasser said...: I don't live in wonder land, that's my issue. YOU nor the MEDIA was there. YOU nor the MEDIA talked to this officer about what happened and why, Joe did. Joe says he did nothing wrong, beacause that is the TRUTH!! Not the media twisted to make you hate Joe version. Get your head screwed on, and thank God we got Joe.; January 30, 2010 at 7:14 PM
Anonymous said...: I know Joe is pretty tough on animal abuse- was it his office that investigated this incident? If not, which agency did that?; January 30, 2010 at 7:30 PM
Anonymous said...: Instead of attacking Liz (in a very inept manner, I might add), how about posting some facts with your credible sources?

As far as who is favored here- I can only speak for myself (and I assume that many others share my motivations). We just want to know what's going on with MCSO. Those who post information citing credible sources are appreciated. Those who post junk (and don't cite their sources) are not.

The facts I am able to find thus far don't shed a favorable light on Joe Arpaio or the way he runs the MCSO. Those who support him are not doing him nor the readers here any favors with their childish name calling, and made-up facts. There has been some name-calling from those who don't seem to support the Sheriff, but they also posts credible information. They don't seem to try to support their viewpoints by name calling.; January 30, 2010 at 7:38 PM
Anonymous said...: "YOU nor the MEDIA talked to this officer about what happened and why, Joe did." Did not Joe have a vested interest in the outcome of whatever investigation was conducted? Was it not, in fact, someone in his employ that was implicated, and that he "cleared of wrongdoing"?; January 30, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To Anonymous, who wrote

Did not Joe have a vested interest in the outcome of whatever investigation was conducted? Was it not, in fact, someone in his employ that was implicated, and that he "cleared of wrongdoing"?

January 30, 2010 7:42 PM

So what, what is your point? If the deputy would of done something wrong, Joe would of said so.

So now you are admitting to making up evidence and calling Joe a liar. SEE, you are brain washed by the media to hate Joe, admit it.; January 30, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Mark Gasser said...: NO ONE here has yet stated their sources. Other than system ran media sources.

YOU people keep saying my facts are not facts. That is a lie, in order for you to say that, you have to prove it. So far, NO one has proven any of my facts wrong. So quit lying! The power to my facts lies right below your finger tips. Use it. Oh, I see, you did. That really makes you a liar.; January 30, 2010 at 8:06 PM
Anonymous said...: Oh yes, I admit it. 2 + 2 = 7. It's obvious, and requires no proof. Joe would've admitted it, huh? Who again, is the brainwashed blind sheep?

If he told you that you were your own mother, you'd believe him, right?

You made up a couple of facts there, Mark. I don't hate Joe (and don't really trust the media- that's why I do so much research), but I love the truth. And just what evidence did I supposedly make up?

While you're at it please name us some media sources that can be trusted in your mind. Other than Joe. My bad: I am trying to reason with a garbage can.

You are self-ridiculing.; January 30, 2010 at 8:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Mark- When you say: "NO ONE here has yet stated their sources." You are referring to yourself, right?; January 30, 2010 at 8:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Mark - You know this stuff is in publicly available police reports, right? Maybe you don't- again- trying to reason....; January 30, 2010 at 8:23 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: ROTFLMFAO at JW Simms.

I got under your skin again with my posting of FACTS, didn't I. LOL!

You made a fool or yourself AGAIN with your post.

I will sleep well tonight. Will you?; January 30, 2010 at 8:55 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Mark,

Prove me WRONG:

NO ONE here has yet stated their sources. Other than system ran media sources.

"YOU people keep saying my facts are not facts. That is a lie, in order for you to say that, you have to prove it. So far, NO one has proven any of my facts wrong. So quit lying! The power to my facts lies right below your finger tips. Use it. Oh, I see, you did. That really makes you a liar."

Site ANY source that denies what REALLY happened. Please, Mark. Don't say it's right under our fingertips if we just bother to google it. I have, and I've posted what google showed me.

SITE SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT WHAT I POSTED WAS INCORRECT,

You friggin moron.

More stories to come....; January 30, 2010 at 9:00 PM
Anonymous said...: That's right, Mark- Liz nailed it- the facts are right under YOUR fingertips- what's wrong with you?; January 30, 2010 at 9:05 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Joe Arpaio doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground. Here is a video that proves it.
Dispute your hero is senile, Markie and JW!

Give the site a minute to load and then click on the video in the upper right corner.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2010/01/04/20100104arpaio-deposition0104-ON.html; January 30, 2010 at 9:17 PM
JW Simms said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; January 30, 2010 at 9:29 PM
Anonymous said...: Simms- you appear to be a very lonely and frustrated misogynist. You seem to only be able to think about Liz in a single dimension. Maybe you're only 17 and haven't learned to control your hormones and the urges they prompt. Odd that you should make fun of her, then express nothing but prurient interest in her.

There are other places for this. This thread is about how Arapio can't control his use of power. Do you have anything worthwhile to add? And no, I don't condone some of the ribald things that Liz has expressed here. However, she seems to know more about Arpaio than most, and usually expresses it well.

Mark has always appeared to be hypocritical in his criticisms, unable to reason or recognize a fact; and sometimes frustration surfaces when trying to deal with such people.; January 30, 2010 at 9:52 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To Above Anonymous talking crap again,

Your same dry writing blah blah again. No proof against Joe, so you and Liz in mob mentality mode, attack Joe for a puppies death. ACCIDENTAL DEATH that is. Blah Blah dry words evry time. Get a drink.; January 31, 2010 at 4:37 AM
Mark Gasser said...: lAST TIME I EXPLAIN THIS Liz,

Police do not qualify with a fire extinguisher, they have to qualify with other real weapons. Yes the office had basic instruction on how to use a fire extinguisher, but it isn't something he has strapped to his side. Maybe the dog leaping from a burning door way, did startle the office? Maybe the officer, not being used to firing a fire extinguisher, squeezed the lever with his hand? That is something all officer will do right before defending themselves, they will squeeze hard on the handle of their pistol. If the officer did this instinctive action, it caused the fire extinguisher to go off. That same grip would not of fired his side arm. You weren’t there and you don’t know what happens in front of a burning door. The media doesn’t tell that either. Maybe the officer did squeeze the handle, in an instinctive reaction. If Joe says this deputy did nothing wrong, it is because it is the truth!

Liz, you are a media washed flipping broken record. Poor puppy boo hoo. “Joe must hang” lol, that's how stupid you sound. “Leave the illegals alone.” Over and over like a broken record. Quit repeating your lie story, it is sickening already. GET a real life. It was an accident this puppy died. It is not an accident one kidnapping a day goes on in Phoenix. Yes, Joe is going to do his sweeps, no matter how long you cry for that puppies death.

Got no evidence against Joe, except the poor puppy story the media twist the truth to. You got way to much time on your hands. Both Liz and the media.; January 31, 2010 at 4:38 AM
Mark Gasser said...: Liz,
What media do you work for, or paper I mean? You posted so many twisted facts stories by different News Papers, word for word, it’s hard to guess which is your boss. You know you could get in trouble for this if you didn’t work for them. You can’t take a reporters words and pretend you wrote them, unless you had the paper’s permission to steel their twisted facts.

Go ahead and try to defend your media boss. They have no defense. It is more than clear they twist facts about Joe. Why? The system that runs the media and loves the modern day slaves, hate Joe, they have proven this with their own words. Yes the media will twist facts and make news out of bull crap, to get Joe out of their bosses way.

Or maybe Liz, you work for one of those human rights money taking organizations? That says Joe is racial profiling for going after illegal Mexicans? Sorry, no racial profiling there. Every illegal Mexican is Mexican. You don’t chase raccoons if a skunk raids and invades your camp site right? Why would Joe not chase illegal Mexicans? Liz, come back when you got some real facts about Joe. You won’t be back to bash him when you do.

Yes, Joe will arrest all who break the law. You don’t have to fear Joe. Just “don’t unleash the power of the MCSO.” Then Joe will be your friend and protector.; January 31, 2010 at 5:08 AM
Mark Gasser said...: Source of facts lol,

You people are like to funny.. Dah, no I'm not listing sources to the hundreds of facts I posted. Why? One, most of my facts are obvious, even a blind sheep can understand them. Second, this is not a college paper, it is a blog comment. Third, if indeed you are not sure of one of my many facts. The power to prove it fact lies right below your fingers. Don't be so dang lazy and googgle my facts. I'm not your mommy and I'm not doing your home work like mommy did for you. It really is pretty simple to prove my facts your self if you are unsure, quit being a spoiled brat.; January 31, 2010 at 5:54 AM
Anonymous said...: CHANNEL 5 NEEDS TO DELETE THIS BLOG; January 31, 2010 at 7:46 AM
Mark Gasser said...: You have to remember who is in charge at 5, tell we say different, and prove it.; January 31, 2010 at 8:11 AM
Mark Gasser said...: The majority supports the powers of the MCSO. Don't unleash the powers; January 31, 2010 at 8:28 AM
JW Simms said...: Anonymous said...

Simms- you appear to be a very lonely and frustrated misogynist. You seem to only be able to think about Liz in a single dimension. Maybe you're only 17 and haven't learned to control your hormones and the urges they prompt. Odd that you should make fun of her, then express nothing but prurient interest in her.

There are other places for this. This thread is about how Arapio can't control his use of power. Do you have anything worthwhile to add? And no, I don't condone some of the ribald things that Liz has expressed here. However, she seems to know more about Arpaio than most, and usually expresses it well.

Mark has always appeared to be hypocritical in his criticisms, unable to reason or recognize a fact; and sometimes frustration surfaces when trying to deal with such people.

Oh gee Dr. Phil, you sure got me pegged right. You're so good at analyzing me, I could just PUKE!!! J.W. Simms.; January 31, 2010 at 8:37 AM
JW Simms said...: I have a strong feeling that "Liz F" is in actuality ( Lydia "the Scuze" Guzman ) I am also of the opinion that ( the "scuze" Guzman ) may be the person who posted the address and map of the sheriffs house, on that creep Fleenors, facebook website. If it is her, she broke the law and they will !!! be coming for her, as well they should. J.W. Simms.; January 31, 2010 at 9:06 AM
Anonymous said...: Liz, I think these are 12-year olds we're dealing with.

They just call names, and try to push buttons. Only they post so-called facts with nothing to back them up. They're just like 12-year old boys, but I don't think they'd admit it.; January 31, 2010 at 9:21 AM
Anonymous said...: Plus they don't seem to be able to comprehend a lot of what the adults write. Mark GASSER thinks he should just post umpteen times in a row and people will assume he knows something.; January 31, 2010 at 9:23 AM
Anonymous said...: GASSER thinks my writing is dry. I guess facts don't do anything for him.

After many questions: He and SIMMS refuse to name what sources of news they consider reliable. So they confirm that they don't know what they're talking about. Mom and Dad might not let them watch the news. Instead they spend their time playing with their Arpaio superhero dolls, I'd imagine. At lease I don't state is as fact, as obvious as it might seem.; January 31, 2010 at 9:43 AM
Anonymous said...: YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET A L I F E !!!!!!!!!!!; January 31, 2010 at 2:08 PM
Anonymous said...: I would be willing to bet my 401k that they are just MCSO employees posting pro Joe crap or at the very least sheriffs posse. That is how they roll. I will be so glad when the feds remove this renegade sheriff. He is a danger to the public image of all American law enforcement officers. Imagine the loss of trust that would happen if all law enforcement agencies acted like the MCSO.; January 31, 2010 at 2:11 PM
Anonymous said...: "YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET A L I F E" Well, you have a point.; January 31, 2010 at 2:35 PM
Anonymous said...: "I would be willing to bet my 401k that they are just MCSO employees posting pro Joe crap or at the very least sheriffs posse." Is Joe hiring 12-year olds? Read their garbage- that's what they sound like to me.

They want an "A" on their book reports without reading the book. I agree that their posts are propaganda with no relation to the facts, which they refuse to acknowledge. Nuts!; January 31, 2010 at 2:44 PM
Anonymous said...: What do you mean "no relation to the facts"? Joe Arpaio is the Sheriff (but not Sheriff of America)- that's a fact. You have to give Gasser and Simms that one.; January 31, 2010 at 2:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Mark Gasser said: "I'm not listing sources to the hundreds of facts I posted. Why? One, most of my facts are obvious, even a blind sheep can understand them. Second, this is not a college paper, it is a blog comment. Third, if indeed you are not sure of one of my many facts. The power to prove it fact lies right below your fingers."

I haven't been able to verify a single thing of substance you've posted. I know all about Google. It looks like others have tried too. It looks to me like there are some people posting who know what they're talking about (and maybe use Google), and a few who do not. You solidly are in the second category- which I guess is why you make lame excuses that might appease fools, instead of providing proof.

One lie is that you've posted hundreds of facts. Even if we accepted your pro-Joe propagada as facts there are about 20, not hundreds. If you can't count (or worse, you are a blatant liar), who do you think is going to believe you instead of respected publications and newscasts who research their stories? If you can't count, maybe that's the reason you think you're the majority. Are you looking to build a following of idiots?

It looks like a lot of people think that you and Simms are on his payroll. I can see how they would draw that conclusion. Given your dearth of thinking ability it stands to reason why you'd take Arpaio's word no matter what he says.; January 31, 2010 at 3:20 PM
Anonymous said...: Go Joe Go! You are doing a great job!; January 31, 2010 at 4:24 PM
Anonymous said...: Joe for shriff for ever we wish.; January 31, 2010 at 4:26 PM
Anonymous said...: Go Joe Go! You are doing a great job!; January 31, 2010 at 4:27 PM
Anonymous said...: Joe is doing a better job than any sheriff.; January 31, 2010 at 4:28 PM

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