Monday, February 8, 2010

All Arpaio's Deputies To Get Immigration Training

Sheriff Joe Arpaio comes out swinging, saying his office's entire force needs to be trained in enforcing federal immigration law because he expects immigration-related problems to only worsen.

His announcement sparked immediate protests.

"He (Arpaio) is going to continue terrorizing the Latino community," said Alessandra Soler-Meetze, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona

Labels: department of justice, federal immigration law, illegal immigration

279 Comments:

The curtain call! said...: Just saw the Arpaio press conference. Man! The old guy looks like hell! Must be all of those sleepless nights waiting up late, thinking about the impending Federal indictment for abuse of power!; February 8, 2010 at 9:02 PM
Anonymous said...: Arpaio is just attempting to distract everyone from thinking about the federal grand jury. Typical Arpaio. I'll be glad to see this ass clown retire!; February 8, 2010 at 9:06 PM
Unknown said...: Arpaio is looking more and more like Hitler everyday. Just when you would think it can't get any worse and he pulls this one. He even said he doesn't care if VICTIMS of crime and witnesses get asked about their immigration status, that is it GOING TO HAPPEN if the deputies suspect them here undocumented...Doesn't he give a shit about rape and murder, not to mention many other crimes that can happen and victims WILL NOT report them...What a great community he is making for ALL of us, Criminals can do anything they want to brown people since they know Arpaio will only get rid of the victim...no witnesses to the crime. And we think Mr. Joseph (Mussilini) Arpaio is not an Italian mobster??? Mobsters love crime and intimidation of victims, right? Hitler had everyone on a hunt for the Jews, Arpaio has everyone on a hunt for the undocumented, thus suspecting every person with brown skin....
He is a white supremest KKK, this only confirms it more with his hiring of Mr. Kobach, straight from the bowels of the tea-bag, Neo-Nazi, John Tanton group FAIR.; February 8, 2010 at 9:49 PM
Anonymous said...: He may hire whomever he wishes. He is in such deep crap right now with the feds it won't matter. He is going to go the way of Evan Mecham soon. Goodbye and good riddance tyrant!; February 8, 2010 at 10:03 PM
Anonymous said...: I see he brought the Tea-bagger Chris with him to Phoenix to help out.

Watching his little ambitions get crushed out of existence by the federal government is going to be so sweet!; February 8, 2010 at 11:07 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To the idiot who wrote this!

"He (Arpaio) is going to continue terrorizing the Latino community," said Alessandra Soler-Meetze, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona

I guess that would mean the Latino population is illegal? What else can such words reflect? Maybe that is the same reason the Super Bowl was in Spanish too. ANY child here in America legally, who attended our public schools, knows English. No, America doesn't have an official language, however, I was required to take 4 years of English in High School. Spanish was not even required for one second.

What more proof does any blind sheep need, to know the system ran media is for the modern day slaves. The slave masters own our media too!

Sure we all should know a second language, but mine would not be Spanish. My blood is from Germany. Where all the greatest minds come
from.

The writer of the words above mine, would have nothing to worry about. As long as the ones he so loves, “don’t unleash the power of the MCSO.” Come here LEGALY and learn some English, or go back to the drug lord ran Mexico. Who would fly the flag of such a messed up country here? The meth backs would no problem, they are proud of a drug ran country they run from, instead of staying to fix. Hey you can’t blame them, our children are here to buy the Mexican meth. Which makes up for over 90 percent of all meth in America.

Do you blind sheep see why Joe is going to target Latinos? ALL illegals here from Mexico, are LATINO. You don’t chase raccoons if a group of skunks raids and invades your camp site. Neither will Joe.

Thank God we got Joe, the only honest politician this country has.; February 9, 2010 at 1:55 AM
Mark Gasser said...: To the blind sheep above my comment,

I won't even waste words on your ignorance directly, but indirectly, to all of the blind. OPEN YOUR EYES!!!! The Feds are going to lose.

Yes the Feds hate Joe, Joe arrests their slaves. He is going to get other Sheriffs to do the same. Mark my words. They won't have any choice either. WE legals are sick and tired of the modern day slaves and meth backs!!
The system owned lobbyist ran politicians are going to fall to a united majority. The sooner the better for all here legally. Mark my words AGAIN.; February 9, 2010 at 2:07 AM
Mark Gasser said...: arieladr, I can't help my self. Here are some direct words just for YOU!

Man are you a moron or what? Joe doesn't care about crime lol. YES he cares, that is why he is going to arrest all brown skin ILLEGALS. Boo woo, don't cry. You think 90 percent of the meth here is not a crime? Yes he is going to arrest your meth back buddies.

You are saying crimes of rape and murder will not be reported now? Are you insane or what? Hmm, the rapes and murders you must be referring to are being committed by the illegal Latinos right? What else can you mean? If a legal sees such a crime, it WILL be reported. If it happens by an illegal, and another illegal witnesses this, you are right, the illegals don't care about rape and murder and won't say a word. Being here illegally is more important to them than rape and murder, YOUR exact words by the way. Some selfish sons of bitches for sure.

Joe is Hitler and kkk? Lol. Joe has no problem with black in skin color legal Americans. Nor does he have a problem with brown legal Americans. Yes Hitler hated all Jews, no matter what color skin. Joe only hates the illegal BROWN skin here. Get your head out of your illegal loving butt and wake UP!!! There is a reason one third of all the inmates in Joe’s jail are here illegally. That us legals have to pay for. Useless eaters, paid for by hard working Americans. Go back to Mexico and fix the drug lord ran country who’s flag you fly here. How anyone can be proud of a country ran by drug lords, is ridiculous. Unless of course you are a meth back? Your country said France was repressive lol. Only to be ran by the drug lords now. You celebrate independence from what exactly? Pathetic, to say the least.; February 9, 2010 at 2:54 AM
Anonymous said...: The only abuse of power is the corrupt progressive government.; February 9, 2010 at 5:55 AM
Anonymous said...: Joe actually has cared for us citizens & has kept us safer, now on the other hand the so-called progressives don't care about citizens, only themselves. Now we're talking dictator, so let's get back to HONEST GOVERNING in 2010 & 2012. & try for zero tolerance on corruption. Joe would be one of the first to have my vote, just with his outstanding reputation, which he always backs himself up/so do common sense citizens!; February 9, 2010 at 8:05 AM
Anonymous said...: Way to go Joe! Keep up the good work. Wesupport you!; February 9, 2010 at 9:21 AM
Anonymous said...: Good for Joe. I support your work. If you are in the country illegally, you are a criminal. Joe is enforcing the laws that the people voted on. At least he is one government official that is working for the citizens of the United States and not the political party.; February 9, 2010 at 11:18 AM
Anonymous said...: AMEN!; February 9, 2010 at 11:46 AM
Anonymous said...: Once again, Arpaio supporters are laboring under the belief that illegal immigration is the only issue that is important. Once again, they show their shallowness.

They don't seem to appreciate the gravity of the situation when we have a sheriff who truly believes he can do anything to suppress those who do not support him, i.e., the county board of supervisors, judges and the press. He does not have either the right or the duty to bully his way through our county.

What you are seeing now in his rants is a sadistic, egocentric politition in the death throws of his political career and, possibly, the end of his days of freedom.

It is ironic to know that, in history, time and time again people like Arpaio do ultimately pay the price for their excesses of power. They learn that they are not untouchable and are held to account. Arpaio is no different. The day approaches quickly that Arpaio will be before a judge who cannot be intimidated and who doesn't care who Arpaio thinks he is.

He will be unmasked for all to see who this monster really is.; February 9, 2010 at 11:51 AM
JW Simms said...: The sic ( Latinos ) of Maricopa county are damn lucky to have such a fine man as sheriff Joe Arpaio, representing their interest in the matter of ( illegal Mexicans ) By the way, I have never seen this man looking " stronger " When it comes to the letter of the law, Joe Arpaio, is! a force to be reckoned with. Now!! were J.W. Simms, the sheriff, I would eradicate the whole damn state of Mexicans, without prejudice as to who has legality and who has not! ( If you're Brown you're going down ) That's my motto. J.W. " I wanna be the next sheriff of Maricopa county " Simms.; February 9, 2010 at 11:57 AM
Anonymous said...: These people who are against arpio are not UPSTANDING, LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. They believe in breaking the laws.; February 9, 2010 at 12:45 PM
Anonymous said...: I am a "LAW ABIDING CITIZEN". I don't approve of the sheriff's methods and his abuse of power. I don't believe in breaking the law. I especially don't like politicians like Joe who abuse their power and break the law.; February 9, 2010 at 2:18 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To brain dead who posted this,

(Once again, Arpaio supporters are laboring under the belief that illegal immigration is the only issue that is important. Once again, they show their shallowness.)

It is the Joe bashers that labor to find proof or evidence against Joe, not the supporters of Joe and ALL of America's laws.

Lets see what the bashers have, poor puppies, goldwater piss, women who act the fool when polled over, and of course, the above anonymous coward’s words. "He intimidates people who do things against the majorities wishes, we are a victim of an honest politician." Boo woo to the city officials who spent $400,000,000.00 on a new court house, who now claim Joe’s deputies came to their house at supper time, to debate the waste of this money. Lol but all to true. This is why Joe is in federal court, believe it or not, because of city officials saying Joe intimidated them!

What is really amazing about all this, is there is idiots who take the side of corrupt city officials, for spending this money? I will bet anything these so called officials got lased by the contractor, that is building the court house! Yes Joe is in court, for such bull crap. However, there will be no conviction, Mark my words!!!

YES, Joe was against spending this money. YES, Joe was RIGHT! Now police workers and fire fighters are losing their jobs! So corrupt officials can have a nice new unneeded shiny office! Twenty million is all it would of taken, to keep these officers and fire fighter. Not only keep, but to hire more!!

Maybe that is another reason these corrupt officials spent this $400,000,000.00 on an unneeded court house. To keep Joe and other law enforcement, from arresting their modern day slaves here? Ah, it all is beginning to make more sense for sure. Why else would in the red officials spend $400,000,000.00, on something unneeded.

Thanks Joe, at least we have 1 honest politician! Thanks for trying to save the majority by stopping this waste of money. It is clear you did all you could to help us. If only you could of used more persuasive tactics? I support you in any tactic you use for now on. I know who you are fighting for, US the majority!; February 9, 2010 at 2:41 PM
Anonymous said...: Mark Gasser we need to meet........and I'm a Latino that was born here.........; February 9, 2010 at 3:44 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To above anonymous, your point? I'm a German born here. The word German has been around for centuries. How long have you used your new name? What was wrong with the old one Mexican? Not proud of your home land? For sure I can't blame you, I understant the new name now.

Ah, you have a problem when someone really tells it like it is. Sorry if the truth hurts so bad for you.

Hey, I just posted a blog called "Mexico Bleeds." Just click on my name, if you want to hear more facts about your home land. Not to mention, I wrote a whole story titled "the Mexican American War." Give me your email, I'll send it to you.; February 9, 2010 at 4:01 PM
Anonymous said...: When you say you don't agree with Joe abusing power, as in the laws, you need to look into the abusive power of the polititions in charge in Washington. Now that's abusive, & you are breaking the laws stating Joe is'nt doing his job.; February 9, 2010 at 4:30 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Actually, I found THIS article to be much more interesting:

PHOENIX -- Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio takes credit for putting 37,000 illegal immigrants in jail but a closer look at the numbers reveals it's not his deputies who are making most of the arrests.

•Document: MCSO Immigration Statistics

•Also Read: Arpaio Asked To Vacate Headquarters

Arpaio held a press conference on Monday afternoon to announce he is in the process of training his nearly 900 deputies to enforce federal and state immigration laws.

During that same press conference, he also took credit for putting tens of thousands of illegal immigrants behind bars.

“We've been very, very successful… approximately 37,000 illegal aliens that this office has been responsible for investigating, arresting, detaining," said Arpaio.

Nevertheless, the sheriff’s own internal reports, obtained by CBS 5 News, show those numbers don’t tell the full story.

The sheriff’s internal statistics show his human smuggling unit made 3,671 arrests as of early February. The first 12 crime sweeps netted nearly 700 arrests -- about half of those arrested were for immigration related violations.

More than 31,000 of the 37,000 arrests were made by other police agencies. The arrestees were brought to the jail to be processed by sheriff’s detention officers.

“I'd hope they gave us credit for what we do in the jail," said Arpaio.

Arpaio said while other agencies made the initial arrest, his detention officers were the ones to question the suspects and tack on additional immigration violations.

Arpaio said his office is leading the charge in enforcing state human smuggling law, and that has helped reduce crime across the Valley.

"If it wasn't for us, those 31,000 would be roaming the streets again," said Arpaio.

Uhhhh ... correction, Joe. That would be 30,999. Adrian Cruz already IS roaming the streets again, thanks to MSCO.

It's a good thing that Joe is hiring somebody with knowledge of the issue to train his deputies. Joe's take on it (and I quote from his videotaped deposition):

"Ya know what it is? It's this civil rights stuff - all that crap!"

Sorry Mark. You and Joe are both still losers.; February 9, 2010 at 5:31 PM
Anonymous said...: Joe stands up for law obeying citizens. Here and for all of America, his voice must be heard.; February 9, 2010 at 5:44 PM
Anonymous said...: Again the legal citizens are entitiled to civil rights, not the illegals. You should be sorry for no common sense!; February 9, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Immigration issues are good

but he is too much into himself

A Jerk; February 9, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Liz,
are you still crying about the poor puppy? Trust me, no one with half a clue cares about what you say anymore. You lost all ears to the puppy whines. So stop yours too. You are so media brain washed, even the media can't stand your whines anymore.

Just because you copy words of the media, then pretend they are yours, you think all are blind sheep and will believe you? Sorry, the majority has their eye's wide open. WE all know the truth about the system ran media you worship. Find another god already.; February 9, 2010 at 5:53 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Yeah Mark, I could tell on the other board all of the OVERWHELMING responses you got! ROTFL!

I didn't bring up the puppy. I pointed out the printed media of what Joe talked about on camera, again mugging for his swooning public (that would be you and Simms and your anonymous identities.)

I don't have the time to sit here and verbally spar with you tonight though. Unlike you, I have a life that involves more than sitting at a keyboard blogging.

Back at ya later!; February 9, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Anonymous said...: You progressives need to stop acting like your victims of Joe's good work.; February 9, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Anonymous said...: KPHO asks Arpaio good questions (nobody else does), and it makes him uncomfortable. He is being revealed as a leader of a law enforcement unit that is under-achieving when you look at objective metrics compared to other similar urban areas. He excels at spin and public relations, which is what he should pursue if he is not sent to prison for abuse of power and malfeasance. It has nothing to do with his opinions on federal immigration etc.; February 9, 2010 at 7:03 PM
Beano Before said...: I am an anti Gasser.

WTF Gasser!

You don't like anything she says when she says things in her own words. If she copies and pastes something, you criticize her for believing the "system ran media". At least she points out sources for some of the facts she posts. But wait, sonny! Go to the home page and watch the VIDEO. You can see Joe's reports and hear Him (your idol) say the exact same words that you just criticized her for posting, and you'll wet yourself when Arpaio says it. You just blog yourself in a circle and get nowhere. I really wish you would copy and paste something other than your own posts. I want to see some of the sources for your so called facts.

The irony of it is that if Arpaio had done this training 2 years ago when people first started complaining about potential civil rights violations of US citizens, his deputies on the street would probably still have their 287g permissions. As it is, only the jails are accredited to investigate the immigration status of people that are arrested on other crimes. The local police departments are not authorized by Federal law which is why Joe wants to take credit for all 31,000. He neglects to mention that only the jail has the nod from the Feds to do it.; February 9, 2010 at 7:12 PM
Anonymous said...: Someone above said,

"You progressives need to stop acting like your victims of Joe's good work."

Getting rid of the Joe Arpaio circus will be progress enough for us progressives, thank you!

And take the fat Henderblimp with you fatty! (Door Hitting Joe in arse!); February 9, 2010 at 7:17 PM
Anonymous said...: You go Sheriff Joe. I would be asking all the picketers of mexican decent to show papers if they are legal. If you are a visitor, here on visa or going to school you don't have a say in what goes on in this country. This is our country. Since there are so many thousands or millions here illegally, mexico must be a pretty bad place to live. If you all got together and over threw the government and the drug lords you could have stayed in mexico and made it great. But no you came here illegally and want us to say nothing. Ha,like hell. Come to our country legally or stay the heck away. And that goes for all of the people who are here illegally from all over the world. We made a great place to live and now you guys are tearing it down. Go home before disaster hits you as no one is as safe as they think they are. We need more Joe's to straighten this country out.; February 9, 2010 at 7:40 PM
Anonymous said...: I am no fan of illegal immigration. I am not a fan of blind and dumb followers of a senile meddler either. You Sheriff Joe supporters need to read the constitution again, or for the first time.

This sheriff is a tyrant. He attacks the innocent to get his way. That is the only problem I have with him. He needs to go retire and play golf and leave the government to people who still have the wits about them.; February 9, 2010 at 7:50 PM
Anonymous said...: Like our corrupt progressive polititions. WHY GET RID OF SOMETHING THAT WORKS, THAT'S WHERE YOU PROGRESSIVES MAKE NO SENSE.; February 9, 2010 at 8:14 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To anonymous who wrote this,
(leave the government to people who still have the wits about them.)

What wits do you mean? The wits to fool the majority you mean? He is for us, why would he fool us like all other politicians do? Or like the wits of the city officials who spent $400,000,000.00 on an unneeded new court house?
Joe is doing just fine for the majority. It is a shame he didn’t have the power to stop this waste of money, that is now taking police off our streets. Now the majority will suffer from the officials with wits! Wits to line their pockets you mean. No thanks on your idea of wits.

Joe for sure needs much more power, so he can do more for the majority. Retire not. Run for governor, hell yes!; February 9, 2010 at 8:35 PM
Anonymous said...: Like our corrupt progressive polititions. WHY GET RID OF SOMETHING THAT WORKS, THAT'S WHERE YOU PROGRESSIVES MAKE NO SENSE.

You, as all right wing conservatives miss the point. You also don't understand Independents (the largest growing voter population in America). People like Joe are a part of the problem and gridlock that paralyzes government in this country. You talk about something that works? We have had 20 years of conservatives dominating government policies to prove that they do not work. Guys like Arpaio are more dangerous than the average politician because they don't value the very rules that make a Democracy work. There is accountability for abuse of power. Joe is about to find that out.

You keep talking about how you do not understand progressives. My pet dog does not understand how my computer works and never will. I don't expect ancient conservatives to understand progressives either.; February 9, 2010 at 8:45 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To Liz and brown noser,

No I didn’t read her comment. After seeing one hundred comments about a puppy that was killed in an accident, and her calling a swat team member and Joe numerous names over a poor puppy accident. That she turned into a murder investigation. I don’t need to hear another word from her media brain washed mine. Puppy or not!! Neither does the rest of us. She made a complete fool of her self to say the least. Yes I speak for the majority of legals.; February 9, 2010 at 8:46 PM
Mark Gasser said...: to anonymous who wrote,

You also don't understand Independents (the largest growing voter population in America).

What makes you think your independent politicians won't all be bought by the lobbyist too? Dem, Rep, Independents, all are ran by the color of green. Hate to burst your bubble, but all too true. Sorry. But don't worry, I have a plan that will take the power of the lobbyist away, and put it into the hands of the majority. No matter what party is in control. The majority will have the power, not he lobbyist. WE will have a government for the people by the people, for the first time in our country. Be patient, I am still working on it.; February 9, 2010 at 9:00 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: To the "Anonymous" who said:

"You keep talking about how you do not understand progressives. My pet dog does not understand how my computer works and never will. I don't expect ancient conservatives to understand progressives either."

ROTFLMAO! Thanks for the laugh! But you brought up the puppy...

To Mark:

Please point me to my "one hundred comments" about the SWAT officer that RAN A PUPPY back into a burning building. No accident, and you and I and everyone else (including your Hero Joe Arpaio) know it!

I turned into a murder investigation? No, I have not turned into anything. I am still just a woman with a brain. I have a media brain washed mine? Is it a gold mine? A diamond mine? Neither DOES the rest of us? It appears you were home-schooled by your aunt-sister-step mother. Any 5 year old has better grammer. "Yes I speak for the majority of legals" ... ummm, well, I just am at a loss of words in an attempt to quantify your stupidity. Which brings me back to 'anonymous' who says his dog doesn't understand how his computer works, and he doesn't expect the dog ever will understand.

But just to give you a project to focus on, please, Mark, show me my "one hundred comments" about the puppy that was abused by a MCSO SWAT officer.

Back at ya later.; February 9, 2010 at 9:26 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: BINGO! I've got it!

Mark learned math and statistics from Joe Arpaio!

Liz makes 5 or 6 posts about the puppy chased back into the fire by the MCSO SWAT and Mark "rounds it off" to 100.

Joe arrests a total of something under 3800 illegals and rounds it off to 31,000 that MCSO takes credit for.

Never mind the little project I gave you to focus on, Mark. I know it's beyond you. Mostly because there are only 5 or 6 posts, 2 that I started, and a handful of responses to your alledged 'rebuttals' but I keep forgetting that you suffered that brain injury in the milk truck crash.

So, you wrote a WHOLE ARTICLE on the Mexican American War, did you? Wow! Why am I not surprised? Are you starting your own news outlet? Would it be an "alternative" outlet, similar to the New Times but at the other end of the spectrum? Will you advertise for priests and nuns and negative reviews on restaraunts and what not to do in Phoenix? What will you call it? The Weekly Regressive?

Good night, Mark.

I'll be back to point out your intellectual shortcomings tomorrow.; February 9, 2010 at 9:40 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Just saw this. Now you're really SCARING us, Mark. Take your meds and go to sleep!

"Mark Gasser said...
to anonymous who wrote,

You also don't understand Independents (the largest growing voter population in America).

What makes you think your independent politicians won't all be bought by the lobbyist too? Dem, Rep, Independents, all are ran by the color of green. Hate to burst your bubble, but all too true. Sorry. But don't worry, I have a plan that will take the power of the lobbyist away, and put it into the hands of the majority. No matter what party is in control. The majority will have the power, not he lobbyist. WE will have a government for the people by the people, for the first time in our country. Be patient, I am still working on it."

Be patient?? I'm thinking of calling 911 on your crazy a$$!! You are either the best bullshiter on the internet or a really sick, deranged mad man!; February 9, 2010 at 9:46 PM
Anonymous said...: HeY, Hey, Sheriff Joe Arpaio doing a good job roundin' up them illegals....
Why do people call it racial profiling ? Just beacuse most are BROWN, you wont see illegal whites. Sure they have to look for brown skinned, as that just happens to be the color of the most popular illegal. Call me honky, but i'm not illegal :-} Grin; February 9, 2010 at 10:31 PM
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Beano Before said...: I am an anti Gasser.

JW Simms,

You are the sorriest excuse for a man that I have ever seen in my life. Why would any man address a woman that way? You're a disgrace to our gender, and you really need to chill. I think Liz is really a pretty decent person. Just becuase she doesn't agree with you about Arpaio is no reason for you to act like the kind of jerk that most women think we are.; February 9, 2010 at 10:47 PM
Anonymous said...: I posted this on another thread in response to a humaniod who, rather than posting a factual counterpoint with any sort of documentation, instead accused me of being afraid of Arpaio. Apologies to anyone who hates cross-posting:

Are you accusing me, the guy who posted (and posts) verifiable, documented facts of being afraid? Another lame attempt at diversion. I'm a white, law-abiding citizen. I try to help my neighbors.

Where are the (documented- look it up) facts supporting your support of Arpaio?

Some examples for you:

ExcerptedFrom The Arizona Republic Feb. 8, 2010 10:07 PM

A convicted child rapist who escaped from the Maricopa County Courthouse last year was reportedly captured Monday afternoon in Mexico, according to the U.S. Marshals Service.

....

The former ice-cream truck driver was convicted in 2005 of sexually assaulting his girlfriend's 9-year-old daughter and sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole for 35 years.

But last year he was back in court to stand trial for two unrelated rapes. On Feb. 17, he slipped out of handcuffs during a lunchtime break and evaded the Maricopa County Sheriff's deputies who were supposed to be guarding him. His escape was captured by cameras as he walked unchallenged out of the downtown Phoenix court complex.

Also you can look up the following:
The Wikipedia article on "Joe Arpiao"; the 5-part Pulitzer nominated East Valley Tribune series on MCSO; and the Goldwater Institute report on MCSO.

And rather than accusing those who post such facts of some sort of emotional, ethnic, or any other sort of bias: If your position in support of the (current) Sheriff is well-founded, post the documentation of that as I do. You are either tragically uninformed, or untruthful. In either case, your thinking is tragic. That's provable (and will be in court, by the way).

The ad hominem attacks, are transparently desperate! You can look that up on the fallacies web page I posted earlier (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/). But you won't, because the facts (what the dictionary defines those as) do not matter to idealogues, pedagogues, demagogues and hamsters. It matters not to me how you categorize yourself.; February 9, 2010 at 11:10 PM
Anonymous said...: Is this ugly mug "our" Mark Gasser?

http://www.facebook.com/gassman

He sure looks like an Arpaio fan!; February 9, 2010 at 11:12 PM
Anonymous said...: Video of white supremacist neo-nazis supporting Arpaio. Does anyone recognize Mark Gasser or JW Simms?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqH_unPs8SQ

And, no I am not pro-illegal anything, including immigration. So come up with something rational or just keep it zipped. Just thought some might be interested in seeing one of Arpaio's blocs of support. Does anyone know whether he's ever denounced this sort of thing? I do not- never heard he had. I hope that he has though.; February 9, 2010 at 11:12 PM
Anonymous said...: "He sure looks like an Arpaio fan!" Well intended, to be sure, but the same fallacious logic used by politcal hacks. If this isn't the Gasser, it's an unfair attack against an innocent bystander (and we know a Sheriff who likes to employ those tactics to stay in office).

It really doesn't matter what he looks like, does it? It's what he represents.; February 9, 2010 at 11:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Neo-Nazi, white supremacist, racist: Let's find an excuse to blame someone else for our own shortcomings. Let's not do anything to improve ourselves, we'll just call people names. If given an opportunity we'll commit murder as a means of self-satisfaction, until the chickens come home to roost anyway.

Louder, meaner, more militant = correct

This is also a description of insanity, or-- if calculated, of the most cynical variety of self-deception.; February 9, 2010 at 11:25 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Hey Liz,
I don't read a word you say anymore, not after your over one hundred comments about a poor puppy that was murdered in your media brain washed mind. Don't have the time to read childish opinions of yours. Not to mention, my mind is still recovering from the last hundred poor puppy murder investigation name calling comments from your brain washed mind. Just seeing the word Liz I get flash backs of your ignorance. Can you find a new word?; February 10, 2010 at 7:15 AM
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Anonymous said...: Mark is a total retard people and his second in command JW Simms is no better. I still give both of you an open invitation to actualy prove anything you blast out of your butts like it is some sort of facts. For all I know you are probably deputies paid to do nothing but call people names. You two fuktards could not find your way out of a bathroom yet alone make a order at a DQ drive in without help. Mark and his underlying support of Hitler and the SS and JW Simms who was obviously rejected by every woman he has ever come across..; February 10, 2010 at 11:31 AM
Mark Gasser said...: To above anonymous,

Boo hoo, get a life cry baby boo hoo hoo. Or better yet, go back to Mexico, we don't need modern day slaves or meth backs in America.; February 10, 2010 at 11:37 AM
A White Guy said...: Mark Gasser,

"Boo hoo, get a life cry baby boo hoo hoo. Or better yet, go back to Mexico, we don't need modern day slaves or meth backs in America"

We've seen that from you before, and some of us have memories. From whom did you plagiarize this? Allow me to inform you that if you were in charge of deciding what is needed in this or any county, nobody (you included) would survive very long. You can't even defend your assertions with logic.

November 15, 2007
Arpaio clarifies KKK remarks
By Dennis Welch
Tribune

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said on national television earlier this week that "it's an honor" to be compared to the Ku Klux Klan.

He later "clarified" his remarks- as anyone with a PR adviser would do.

*********

Police officers associations throughout the State of Arizona have voted "no confidence" in Joe Arpaio as Sheriff! These include; State of Arizona Fraternal Order of Police, Fraternal Order of Police Lodge Five, Maricopa County Deputies Association, Arizona Cops.

That's right, the Maricopa County Deputies Association has no confidence in their boss! Mark Gasser, and JW Simms do though? That's odd...well, not so odd.

These people make loud and obnoxious pronouncements without ever defending their position with a shred of documented evidence. Just like their leader.

And this was asked before but never answered:
Milk is white, very very white. Mark, is that the last thing you remember?; February 10, 2010 at 12:00 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To the above white Gay,

aw, did Joe hurt your feelings? Joe is sick of you sickos calling him the kkk. He made you swallow your words didn't he? lol, of course he did, you are still spitting them up.

As far as his deputies go, I thought you blame Joe for how terrible his deputies are? Now Joe is the terrible one? Make up your multi personality mind already.

As far as leading anything, I am not the majority, I am a one person moron.

Hey aren't you paid by the government right now? Perma farting government property while defending law breakers and bashing Joe, the only honest politician here? Sucking the governments nipple is all you know how to do I see.

Yes milk is white, just like the powder your buddies on the boarder allow into my country. I say you all need a boot off the nipples and into Joe‘s jail.; February 10, 2010 at 12:36 PM
Anonymous said...: There is no civil rights issue here, you would stop any race for a violation, so get over it!; February 10, 2010 at 12:39 PM
A White Guy said...: More name calling, Mark- the sure sign of a very well-founded opinion! You don't know anything about me and your pathetic guesses just expose your weakness. You talk about bodily functions instead of the issues. And you think that's not childish. There's no point in trying to reason with you or anyone like you.

The post wasn't actually intended for you, Brainerd! I just put your name on it to push your buttons. It's for people who want information.

Post away (far away?)! I don't care- Have a nice day.; February 10, 2010 at 12:48 PM
A White Guy said...: Mark, I have been kinda' hard on you, so I felt that maybe I should give you some commendation. I am a firm believer, that everyone has at least one good characteristic. I haven't had time to give that the weeks of perusal it requires in your case, but may I say this: Thanks for entertaining so many for so long with so little!

Have you considered taking your act on the road? May I suggest the middle of a busy highway? If you chose one near a large dairy facility, that would have a certain poetry, no?

Does it sound like I am crying? If you think so, may I suggest the Supersonic XL (Zounds is a little too classy, me thinks)?

Have a nice day.; February 10, 2010 at 1:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Just to let you know...it is'nt Mark!!!!!; February 10, 2010 at 2:32 PM
Anonymous said...: All of you so-called progressives need to wake up, get some real facts, not lies with no facts. FOX NEWS.COM will show both sides, with proof, so people can make their decision.; February 10, 2010 at 2:37 PM
A White Guy said...: "Just to let you know...it is'nt Mark!!!!!"

So- Mark Gasser isn't posting his own trash. Okay then. Thanks.; February 10, 2010 at 3:50 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To white Gay who posted these lines,

"More name calling, Mark- the sure sign of a very well-founded opinion!"
"The post wasn't actually intended for you, Brainerd!"

Hey thanks for proving the state of your own opinion lol. Thanks again lol again.

No, I didn't bother to read the second brilliant comment you posted. You said all I needed to see in the first one lol lol, I can't stop laughing lol lol lol lol lol lol
Thanks for proving you are nothing but a child.; February 10, 2010 at 3:51 PM
A White Guy said...: "FOX NEWS.COM will show both sides" - you left out (pun coincidental) "from their own extremely right bias".

I don't take sides (literally), but you can see their leanings, and MSNBC's just from reading their headlines on Google news.

If you were trying to cause a chortle- mission accomplished!; February 10, 2010 at 3:52 PM
Anonymous said...: Mark and JW Simms both go to the school of hitler youth here in Phoenix. Bozo the clown has more color than you Mark. You are some idiot computer slob who probably milks the Gov't for uneployment and food stamps while your "Life Partner" spends most of his days tied up in a closet. You are just a pathetic piece of garbage who probably fight pit bulls for fun. You and you Arian ways are done and so is Joe.

Fact: Joes is under investigation, not the rest of us...

Hhahahahahahahahahah The one true fact.

Later Douchebag; February 10, 2010 at 4:05 PM
Anonymous said...: I see know the progressive thug government is trying to do everything they can to bring our Joe down. They could'nt touch him when they started their agenda, they will go to political lengths to discredit him. Like mob, we'll get him one way or another, just like sarah palin.; February 10, 2010 at 4:27 PM
Anonymous said...: J.D.Hayward for instance, the corrupt polititions pushed him out of office, can't even rely on good voting practices.; February 10, 2010 at 4:30 PM
A White Guy said...: Sure you didn't read them- you can't help yourself. Please don't read this one either.

My wife doesn't think I'm gay, nor does any other human being. And really I care not what you think. Can you wrap your ego around that? Your slur is worthy of a 7th grade playground- is that where you got it?

Two concepts for ya': One (almost said "you") can be literate and heterosexual. I'm not suggesting you try either of those. The world has no need of more Gassers. It already seems to be full of politicians and radio personalities. And I don't care what you read- again my posts are intended for people who can understand them and reason for themselves. That, sadly, doesn't describe you, Mark.

When I tag myself "A White Guy", I am trying to imply "A guy who happened to be born white". Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just a paint job, and it's working as well as any.

It's a little complicated, but I wonder if Gasser is a white supremacist because he thinks if everyone were white more of the suns energy would be reflected back into space, thus alleviating the scourge of climate change?; February 10, 2010 at 4:37 PM
Anonymous said...: "J.D.Hayward for instance, the corrupt polititions pushed him out of office". Sorry- no such person.

From Wikipedia "J.D. Hayworth":
In 1998, Hayworth was voted the second biggest "windbag" in Congress in Washingtonian magazine's survey of 1,200 congressional staff members of both parties. "I was hoping to get the number one spot," Hayworth said. "I was last time."

About those voting practices now- blah blah blah?; February 10, 2010 at 4:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Arpaio has endorsed him- figures. I forgot to mention that.; February 10, 2010 at 4:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Gassers of a feather flatulate together? Arpaio, Hayworth, Gasser? blah blah blah; February 10, 2010 at 4:47 PM
Mark Gasser said...: White Gay Guy,
Get a life, no one is listening to your blah blah blah. You proved you are nothing but a child.

As far as the subject of Joe goes.

Latinos threatened to sue our school districts for not having enough teachers to teach English to non English speaking children, awhile back. These kids are the product of the modern day slaves. They are costing the tax payers millions. Our school districts don’t have enough money to teach children with legal parents. We can’t afford children with illegal parents, who have kids that can’t speak one word of English. We for sure can’t afford a law suite from the modern day slave lovers either.

When a child enters our school without knowing one ward of English, the police need to be notified! So they can check the legal status of the parents to these children. The parents should be deported at once. They can take their children with them too.

Our schools are going broke over this. We can’t afford illegals any more. NO, it is not racial profiling. Kids that don’t know English, means the parents are here ILLEGALY! WE can’t afford the money the modern day slave cost the majority, so the system can get richer, at the expense of the majority.; February 10, 2010 at 5:11 PM
A White Guy said...: Gasser- told ya' you couldn't resist. So sad for you!!!!

I read your posts- they're hilarious!!! You don't know "knowing one ward of English", do you?; February 10, 2010 at 5:14 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Lol, man you are an idiot. No, don't know a single word of English. You must be a rocket scientist I see.; February 10, 2010 at 5:24 PM
Anonymous said...: THERE ARE SO MANY IGNORANT PEOPLE IN OUR SOCIETY!; February 10, 2010 at 5:34 PM
Anonymous said...: I hope the Honorable Mr. Arpaio is awarded the
Congressional Medal of Honor for his work in
defending my birth right as a citizen of the United States and a 44 year resident of Phoenix, Arizona.

Good Work Joe and please keep it up!; February 10, 2010 at 6:16 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Mark,

I'm still waiting for you to point me to 100 posts that I made about the puppy that was driven back into a burning home by an MCSO SWAT officer. Having a tough time of it, aren't you?

You DO know, of course, that every time you criticize me for posting that story, you are encouraging every one who reads these blogs to read that story, right?

Your attempts to discredit me are working against you in so many ways that, if it weren't so funny, it wouldn't be funny.

So give us an inside scoop, Mark. Are you guys moving out of the Wells Fargo building or are you going to fight to retain your space? Inquiring minds want to know!; February 10, 2010 at 6:26 PM
Anonymous said...: It sure looks like the corrupt fed gov is quilty party of this agenda.; February 10, 2010 at 6:49 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Hi Liz,
No it wasn't a hundred times, but it sure felt like it. Do you really believe that swat member blasted that puppy on purpose? I think you are smarter than that, and just wanted something to rip on Joe about.

Not sure what you mean about moving out of the Wells Fargo building? I live in a house. I work out of my home when I am not on a job site. Please explain what you mean by this comment.; February 10, 2010 at 6:52 PM
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Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Hi Markie,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say at 7:15 this morning that you don't read my posts anymore?

Caught you in ANOTHER LIE.; February 10, 2010 at 6:55 PM
Mark Gasser said...: I didn't tell this one. It was short enough and I thought I would see what you had to say once again, since it was directed to me. Yes I was releaved it wasn't about that puppy again, well, not directly the story anyhow.
Still not sure what you mean about the Wells Fargo building? Are you going to explain this or what?; February 10, 2010 at 7:01 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: The Wells Fargo Building comment -

Hmmmmmmmm!

Well, you're the self proclaimed resident expert on Joseph Arpaio and the story is in the news.

Why don't you tell me what you THINK it means?; February 10, 2010 at 7:14 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Simms,

I am not worried about what people think of me based on the immature, vulgar and stupid things YOU say. Your comments are not a reflection of MY intelligence. They are a reflection of yours, Biohazard.; February 10, 2010 at 7:17 PM
Mark Gasser said...: If the sheriff's in WI, had the bulls Joe does, the family farmer wouldn't be history right now. I imagine the mega farms in CA are all ran by the modern day slaves too. Maybe it is time the majority sends a message to the dairy industry? Many doctors say, milk is good for one thing and one thing only, baby cows. I'm done buying milk that is produced by slaves. Just think what would happen, if we all felt this way?

Thanks Joe, wish there was thousands more like you. So do millions of LEGAL Americans, brown, black, red, yellow and white alike. No, the legal Mexicans have no use for the modern day slaves either. They give the law obeying Mexicans a bad name. Just ask one, if you don't believe me.; February 10, 2010 at 7:17 PM
Anonymous said...: So the sheriff is going to provide BULLS now? WTF are babbling about Mark? What Majority are you babbling about you sociopath? The Majority or people who are mentally ill like you?; February 10, 2010 at 7:20 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Sorry Liz,
I still don't know. No I don't watch most news. It makes me sick how they twist the truth and make news out of nothing of real importance. Like talking about he weather for over half of their news time. There is plenty of real news to be reported. But no, the system ran news won't tell what is really important. I do watch the PBS News hour, maybe I missed this story you talk about. No, PBS is far from perfect. But the most un influenced broad cast we can find here. The internet is also a way to find the real facts about what is going on in the world.; February 10, 2010 at 7:25 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Mark,

I do hope your last post was not in reference to my post to you that you are the self proclaimed resident expert on Arpaio and this is your thoughts about what you think I meant about the Wells Fargo Building.

If so, you lost me in Wisconsin.; February 10, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Mark Gasser said...: to the modern day slave who posted this,

(So the sheriff is going to provide BULLS now? WTF are babbling about Mark? What Majority are you babbling about you sociopath? The Majority or people who are mentally ill like you?)

What are you talking about? Joe provide bulls? Are you saying the slaves breed the cows too! You are a sick mo foer for sure. Let me guess, you work a mega farm and jump the cows when no one is looking? SICK, is to nice of a word for you. Hope that cow kicks you into the shit tomorrow, and you fall and can’t get up. Joe can take you to tent city with no pance and covered in the stuff you are!; February 10, 2010 at 7:33 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Yes, Mark, play Dumb Like A Fox!

So, since you don't pay attention to the news (which is obvious from your posts!) here is a link to the story I mentioned.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2010/02/10/20100210wellsfargo0210.html

Wells Fargo wants your department to move out of the Wells Fargo building to make room for the bank. I was just wondering what light you could shed on the story. Wells Fargo is publicly saying "we need the space". I'm thinking there is something more going on there and hoping you could provide us with some inside information. Since Joe pays you to post praises to him all day, you surely know what's really happening.; February 10, 2010 at 7:33 PM
JW Simms said...: I heard there may be an "investigation" as to why Wells Fargo has expressed such a sudden and urgent need for the top two floors of the Wells Fargo building, currently being occupied by the Maricopa county sheriffs department. Also there seems to be some questions as to Wells Fargo's willingness and apparent "eagerness" to forgo a years worth of rent and early termination fees.

Now, I can't say if there is any truth to any of this, or if it is just rummer, but!! I can wonder, could these fee's be being picked up by one or all! of the pro ( illegal alien ) groups that abound in Phoenix? After all, Wells Fargo is a "bank" and certainly not prone to giving money away. Also could their sudden hast in vacating these two floors be due to pressure from some members of the Maricopa county board of supervisors? As of yet nobody seems to know, or if they do know, they're not saying, but we shall see. J.W. Simms.; February 10, 2010 at 7:35 PM
Mark Gasser said...: No Liz,
The WI thing is not for you. It was about the family farmers that lost their farms to mega farms, that are now ran by the modern day slaves. The same thing happened to the Roman Empire, right before it's fall. The soldiers came home from war, only to find their farms taken over by the very rich and ran by slaves. History does repeat for sure. Hope we can stop it some how. I’m going to stop buying milk.; February 10, 2010 at 7:38 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: OK - Simms,

Thanks for the inside scoop on the WF building. That confirms to those of us who pay attention that you are exactly what we think you are.; February 10, 2010 at 7:41 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Liz,
I will check the story out. No I'm not playing the fox. I really don't work for Joe, but I guess you don't care what I say about that. If you think about it though, why would Joe hire me to defend him? I am not a writer, except for my own web site. I don't believe Joe has ever seen it. I am not known to anyone other than my friends and the people who go to my site. Most of my friends on there are not from AZ. I only know of three off hand. I do get to visit this site when I am at home working. The days I don't, I am at a job site. Tomorrow is one of those days, I won't be home. But I will visit this site when I do get home.; February 10, 2010 at 7:47 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Liz,
I read the story. If we been paying them millions to lease this building, I think Wells Fargo should give some of that money back, if they want Joe out before the lease is up. With the economy the way it is, I agree with Joe when he said he can find a cheaper place. Being next to his jail and court is not a huge issure for Joe, but maybe for other court officials. Still, if it can save the tax payers money, I say find a cheaper place for sure.; February 10, 2010 at 7:53 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Mark!

I am amazed, but suddenly you seem to be addressing me as a normal person and we seem to be developing some sort a raport. I'm guessing you'll sober up in the morning and say "What?? I was nice to that B**ch??" but, oh well, it's progress, right?

I'm still not sure about the milk from Wisconsin business. Buy from Shamrock Farms - locally owned and operated, if you have some concerns...

Bottom line is: Mark, you hurt me deeply with your rejection of my poetry about Joe. I studied story after story looking for material and you threw me to the curb. I thought my Ode to Joe was pretty darned good. LOL! I'll repost them if you've forgotten how good they really are.

Are we calling a truce? Have you decided you can't beat me so you might as well do your best to exist out here in cyberspace in a civil manner with me?

My first clue that you're ready to say "Uncle" was your post about "Ok, it wasn't 100 posts but it seemed like it was".

I can't be out here all day every day like you, but I will drag everything out of the hamper and onto the floor, so if you can't back it up, don't bring it up.

Ready to admit you've met your match? I'll let you swoon over Arpaio in peace if you'll stop your crazy rants and raves over my posts against him.

It's your call. We either "agree to disagree" or "it's on". What's it going to be, Mark?; February 10, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Liz,
I'm not admitting any kind of defeat. Still, I would rather be civilized than fight. I'm sorry for saying you are a bad poet, that was very mean of me for sure. I get a lot of bashing from Joe bashers, and was very mean to you. You didn't disserve that.

Believe it or not, but I do try to do good on earth. There is plenty of bad in the world already. No, I don't hate the modern day slave either. I hate the system that allows them here. The same system that keeps Mexico in a third would country. Mexico's majority for sure disserves more than what their corrupt government has given them. Our system helps keep the Mexican corrupt government in power.

I support Joe for one reason. He really is the only county sheriff in our country, that will arrest an illegal for being here illegally. All the rest listen to the Feds when the Feds tell them to leave the illegals alone. Joe is standing up to the system that runs all other politicians. How can I not support him? No, Joe is not perfect, no one here ever was, except Jesus. I don't think Joe is as bad as many think. I seen how real corrupt police operate and their jails. Joe is an angel compared to some, believe it or not.; February 10, 2010 at 8:12 PM
Anonymous said...: We need to stop catering to illegals!; February 10, 2010 at 9:06 PM
Anonymous said...: Somebody needs to stop these corrupt progressive civil right lawyers going after Joe.; February 10, 2010 at 9:13 PM
Anonymous said...: Civil rights lawyers are the least of Arpaios' worries. The impending federal indictment for abuse of power will be his ultimate downfall and deservedly so. I can't wait to watch the flames as your hero burns! I am going to save a copy of the Arizona Republic cover which features the Arpaio indictment story, and hang it on my wall at home, next to my stuffed animals and trophies!; February 10, 2010 at 9:44 PM
Anonymous said...: Yeah, the courts will stop them. Right after your civil rights are taken away- right?

This is the lamest PR campaign by any politician in my lifetime! The people you're fooling with your garbage are already fooled. Why are you the only ones who can't see that?

And I don't think Gasser graduated from 8th grade English class overnight, got a conscience, or learned to be courteous to others. It seems to me that a grownup is posting under his name.; February 10, 2010 at 9:47 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To anonymous who posted this,

This is the lamest PR campaign by any politician in my lifetime!

I am courteous to people who disserve it, you are not one that does.

How come people like you, are still in believe of a corrupt lobbyist ran system? The same system Joe bucks. OPEN your eyes blind sheep.

Let me guess, you are an independent, thinking your politicians are not bought? Think again!; February 10, 2010 at 10:03 PM
Anonymous said...: I am going to purchase a special picture frame to frame the Arizona Republic front page story featuring the Sheriff's indictment, or his retirement, (if they make a deal), or his death (if the old bugger passes away from old age first). I am going to hang it on the wall so that I can remember that moment with pride! I will laugh out loud with a hard belly laugh, every time I look at it, for years to come!

:); February 10, 2010 at 10:10 PM
Modern Art Masterpiece said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; February 10, 2010 at 10:20 PM
Anonymous said...: Think again! Good advice, Mark. Why don't you take it 1,000 times before your next post? That should take you a decade or so. You don't know me, yet you post "facts" about me. They're as accurate as those you post about Arpaio. I know you'll take this as a compliment. It isn't and if you knew me even for 5 minutes, you'd know your assertions are ridiculous. But I don't think that would stop you from posting them based on the patent lies I've seen posted under your name.

I do agree with you that politicians are in it for money, power (or influence) or some combination thereof. Arpaio is a politician. Do you realize that?; February 10, 2010 at 10:22 PM
Anonymous said...: Piss Joe! Can't wait to get the public funding for my art project!; February 10, 2010 at 10:24 PM
JW Simms said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; February 10, 2010 at 10:41 PM
The Truth said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; February 10, 2010 at 10:48 PM
Anonymous said...: J.W. Simms: "make us proud"? Seems to everyone but you and Gasser that you are already 200% too proud. And that of something that you can take 0% credit for- your skin color.

Remember- Hitler is dead. Why? How? And what benefits did he bring to anyone? He was the biggest art thief in history, and one of the worst mass-murderers. That is not in order of importance- but I don't think you can empathize with others, so thievery probably what is most important to you. He was a criminal! His flunkies (people higher than you in the pecking order), were convicted of war crimes.

So - where's your life headed? It makes no sense!; February 10, 2010 at 10:49 PM
Anonymous said...: The Nazis have been studied by historians, psychologists, antrhopologists, and a few other scientific (and legal) disciplines.

Neo-Nazis should be studied by zoologists.; February 10, 2010 at 10:55 PM
JW Simms said...: Liz F - North Phoenix said...

OK - Simms,

Thanks for the inside scoop on the WF building. That confirms to those of us who pay attention that you are exactly what we think you are.

And you are exactly what I think you are Liz F. Like I said before, pack your crap on your burro and turn his head south, I hear there's still a market for Donkey shows down in San-luis Mexico. The peso's are yours for the taking. J.W. Simms.; February 10, 2010 at 10:57 PM
Anonymous said...: Wow- he's afraid of JW Simms and will throw his superficial decency out the window when Simms tells him to snap-to! Man, that is weird! So some whites are more supreme than others.

It just makes me think that if you guys succeeded in achieving the aims dictated to you: You would eventually turn on each other until there was only one left, and then there were none. (Hitler killed many of those who had been his allies in his rise to power.) This is an extremely perverse take on "natural selection" that defeats the whole aim of that theory!!! Rather than produce a super-species of ultimate human, it would tend toward eliminating all humans.

Like I said- the movement should be studied by zoologists.; February 10, 2010 at 11:12 PM
Anonymous said...: "And you are exactly what I think you are Liz F"- because you say so?

How come you think the economy is so bad? Please think it's good. Please, JW Simms. So many people would be grateful for the change.

Please think that all the merchandise at Wal-Mart is free-of-charge! Your friends would love that too!

Do you read your own posts? They're either the ramblings of a madman or an idiot. Which?
You don't know. But what do you think?

Pffft....; February 10, 2010 at 11:40 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To anonymous who posted this,

(I do agree with you that politicians are in it for money, power (or influence) or some combination thereof. Arpaio is a politician. Do you realize that?)

Yes Joe is a politician, one the city officials and feds want gone.

Why? Because Joe was against wasting four HUNDRED MILLION on a new court house. The same city officials that wanted to waste this money, now have Joe in Federal court. Hmm, doesn't sound like Joe got any bribe money from the contractor, but I will bet these officials are. Why else would they insist on spending this money on something unneeded? Joe said the money can be spent on better things. With police being laid off, it is clear, JOE was right. The Feds want Joe gone because he arrest their modern day slaves. Doesn't sound like Joe is getting rich off the slaves does it? Unlike the system that controls the feds.

Yes Joe is a politician, the only HONEST one we have.

I know, it is going to take you a decade or so to figure out what I just wrote. At least you got a start on it now.
It is clear, any guess I made about you was right on the money.; February 11, 2010 at 12:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Mark, can't you please come up with one original thought- even if it takes a decade?

It seems that most readers here already think your other postings are just regurgitation of what you've heard or read.

Believe it or not- I sort-of agree with the "money ran (sic) system" comments you've made. It's more of a greed-run system though. Money can't act on it's own. It takes people with bad motives to do harm.; February 11, 2010 at 2:05 AM
Anonymous said...: I should add that there are quite a lot of people with good motives trying to help others, and succeeding in many cases. However, they usually are not the ones who make the rules.

I honestly think (after lots of research) that Joe Arpaio is not a man of good intentions. It takes a peculiar kind of emotional detachment to brag that you feed animals better than humans, which he has on multiple occasions.

Have a good morning, Mark.; February 11, 2010 at 2:13 AM
Mark Gasser said...: To above anonymous,

I’m surprised I’m not the only one up this early. I’m working on a huge contract for today, couldn’t sleep thinking about it. So I been going over it.

I believe most of what I post, is just what you say I don't have, original thoughts. Most others here have posted words written or spoken by others. Many of the words I use, most here have never heard of, before I posted them. Yes I repeat many of these thoughts, but if you haven't noticed, most others do exactly that too. I at least post the thoughts worded differently most times, rather than reposting and reposting the exact words. Yes I have on a few occasions, but for the most part I do not.

As far as Joe goes. His personality is different than most. I can relate to that, mine is as well. I don't judge him to harsh on things like the animals indoors and the humans in tents. In all actuality, wouldn’t it be much nicer being out side than locked behind cement walls and bars?

Yes all politicians have a sort of an ego issue. Some far worse than Joe‘s.

I have to support Joe, for his willingness to stand up to the systems most other politicians fall to without argument. Maybe being a politician with a gun, gives him more balls? Still, all other sheriffs in our country, don’t question the system when it comes to illegals. They leave the illegals alone, as told to by the Federal government. These exact words I heard from a sheriff in WI, after my daughter ran a way and was hiding out by some illegals. I knew where she was, but the sheriff had no proof. Being illegal was not good enough to enter their home either. That is when he told me what the feds tell all sheriffs. I’m sure they told Joe too, but Joe pretty much told them where to stick that idea.

I am sure if Joe is not re elected, a new sheriff will listen to the Feds commands, just like all the rest here do. A new sheriff may even do away with tent city. I’m sure the same officials that most likely got paid off by the contractor of the new court house, would get a huge pay off for a new jail. A jail big enough to house all in tent city would cost over a billion dollars.
God knows we can’t afford that. God knew we couldn’t afford a new court house either, so did Joe. But the officials won. Now we are losing police and other workers, that directly help us the majority. Until I see Joe doing things that is directly against us the majority, I have to support him.; February 11, 2010 at 3:23 AM
Mark Gasser said...: To all who call Joe Hitler,

Hitler at one time, was a war hero in World War I. He also was a painter of art, not that good of one I might add. Hitler learned to hate Jewish people after the first world war. When Hitler and many others in Germany were digging through garbage cans for food, he would see Jewish men in suite coats, turning their heads away, rather than helping. Most Jewish people at that time, were bankers and other business owners. They were then and now, very smart when it comes to making a profit. Because of this, Hitler resented them.

When Hitler did move up to become the soul ruler of Germany, he wanted revenge on all Jewish people. A sad and sick thing, revenge. Hitler killed all in his way to get to the top. Then believed he could kill all the Jewish people he hated as well.

Hitler may of succeeded, but he had one huge problem, that lead to his fall. He was addicted to meth. The same drug that is destroying the lives of many Americans right now. He had a doctor that would give him an average of three injections a day.

Germany indeed had all the technology to win World War II in the beginning, but Hitler made huge mistakes that caused his down fall. He started a war on 2 fronts, a huge mistake, all in the name of revenge, thanks to meth. He delayed the production of Germany’s jet fighter for over a year. Believing bombers were more important. He even killed some of his best officers, because of paranoid thoughts of them plotting against him. He May have been right, his own officers tried to kill him, sadly unsuccessfully.

In 1943, America had a Delta force, that was going to kill Hitler in his Swedish home, which Hitler visited a lot, with no body guards to protect him. Yes the Delta force would of taken him out no problem. The plan was called off, for one simple fact. America was afraid he would be replaced with someone that had more confidence. I feel that was a huge mistake on our part. Hitler by this time, had already messed up enough, to win the war anymore.

Yes, if Hitler would have been taken out in 1943, it most likely would of saved many Jewish lives. Most didn’t hate the Jewish like Hitler did.

My point to telling you this? Joe isn’t even close to what Hitler became. He isn’t on drugs for one. Joe doesn’t hate anyone for who they are, only if they break our laws. Joe bucks the same system that let Hitler live in World War II. He stands up to the Federal government. He is also fighting the meth epidemic in America, better than any other Sheriff here. Ninety percent of all the meth in America comes from Mexico. When Joe arrests an illegal, he may be stopping a meth back too. Meth took down Hitler, it is taking down our children too! Joe is nothing like Hitler, so don’t waste your time claiming he is. For you are not even close. Not to mention, you all are like a broken record. Take the advise that guy gave me, come up with something original already.; February 11, 2010 at 4:31 AM
Anonymous said...: The progressives mob are using every means possible to get their socialist agenda, trying to discredit joe is only one out of many. Give them enough rope & they will hang themselves.; February 11, 2010 at 6:42 AM
Anonymous said...: Getting rid of Joe has nothing to do with a social agenda. Joe has many enemies. Many of the judges he harassed are Republicans. His undoing is his own doing. Nobody forced him to investigating other people without cause. He is getting everything he deserves.; February 11, 2010 at 8:15 AM
Anonymous said...: Right,has enemies, like napolitano got in with illegals vote, now in Wash. Sharpton to try to change the great job he's doing. Many polititions/lawyers are corrupt, don't do the job of the people, Joe sure does. Ya play by corrupt Wash. or they will use any/all tactics to get what they want for their agenda,if you understand what it is,& they are digging themselves 6 ft. under.; February 11, 2010 at 9:05 AM
Anonymous said...: Mark Gasser is a Neo-Nazi Moron. Don't listen to this foll. He is about as educated as a rock and smells like a bus. Mark would not know the diference between Illegal Immigration issues and Civil Rights for US citizens if it bit him in the face.

With that I want to reveal something.......

Joe is under investigation Mark...FACT, Fact, Fact, FACT, Fact...hhahahahahahahaha; February 11, 2010 at 10:53 AM
Anonymous said...: Mark, you are becoming more reasonable in your tone. That is welcome and refreshing. My posts are all original, but my facts aren't. I rely on reliable sources.

I read with interest your post about Nazi Germany, and found some surprises. You didn't take a tone of admiring Hitler, though you fell short of condemning him as an evil dictator (he was abusing drugs, though it has been widely reported as several different ones). Meth was evidently one of them. He had already killed many of his former allies before he began to abuse it. Interestingly, meth was used (abused?) by forces on both sides of the war. This tells me something about the forces of darkness behind war.

Sadly Arpaio shares many of the characteristics of a dictator, and has done, what to most of civilized society are some evil things. I think you know what I refer to based on many other posts in this and other thread, but will specify to which I refer if you want.

He is under investigation by the Feds based on the complaints of US Citizens, and their own investigations. US law enforcement agencies across the US are depended-upon to provide local resources in many federal law enforcement actions. Immigration (legal/illegal), drug enforcement, mail fraud, and (most) white-collar crime come under the purview of various Federal agencies. It is vital that there be an atmosphere of mutual respect in order to achieve what all of us want: Fair and effective enforcement of all the laws, without violating the Constitutional (Federal) and Civil (Federal) rights of people. This is intended to protect everyone from the law's overreach. In reality it protects some better than others. Sometimes, though, we're surprised (slowly) as in the Enron prosecutions, Bernie Madoff, Alan Stanford, and others.

Back to Joe Arpaio- if the investigations find enough evidence of wrongdoing on his part. And, I am quite confident that they will, since he has been so blatant, careless and "in your face"- he too will be prosecuted and convicted. He would have to exceed the projections of the actuarial tables 79.2 years) to live that long, but he looks to be in pretty good shape.

Many will tell you that corruption among Federal judges is MUCH less than at the state level. Some states are worse than others, but you can find public records to find that out. So we will see what Arpaio reaps. It might turn out, that after all the nastiness is put in it's proper place, that you and I have an honest disagreement.

Joe, however, is going to face the music that he started.; February 11, 2010 at 11:33 AM
Anonymous said...: Arpaio is,indeed, an Hitlarian figure.

1. He rules through fear.

2. He believes that his way is the only way.

3. He tries to get his own way through intimidation (brownshirts).

4. He arrests those in government whith whom he disagrees and are in the way of his agenda.

5. He believes he is immune to the law and constitution of the Nation.

6. He gathers around him dogmatic believers to carry out his will.

7. I'm not sure if he is a drug user or not, but he may judging from his behavior.

8. He has an egomaniacal personality.

9. He is a bogot which is proven by the fact that he only goes after illegals (brown skinned people) while letting his regular duties slide.

10. He will do and say anything to remain in power -- legal or illegal.

11. He seeks to destroy any political apponent when they have the nerve to run against him.

12. He lies when he sites MCSO statistics to make it seem as though he is doing his job when he isn't.

13. Whenever election time rolls around and he finds out who may run against him, he activates his goon squad to dig up dirt, truth is of no value, about his his possible opponen(s) so he can smear them.

There are many more illustrations of who this very dangerous man (I use the term man with reservation) really is. He is unAmerican. We are better than this and we deserve better than Herr Arpaio.

Max in Scottsdale; February 11, 2010 at 11:34 AM
Anonymous said...: The only reason Joe's under investigation is due to progressive assinine agenda, which is tax payer gets to pay for more illegals, terrorists etc. We could be paying for more safety like Joe, & voting in honest to good polititions that will have his back. The people will oust these corrupt progressives with no sense.; February 11, 2010 at 11:46 AM
Anonymous said...: Who is this twit who equates opposition to Arpaio with progressives? I am not a progressive. Far from it. As a matter of fact, I was at one time an elected official in the Republican party. Now, I'm an independent.

I am a well educated man, having two degrees, who has served this country during time of war. I was not fighting for the bigots nor was I fighting for narrow minded people. I was fighting for the ideals America really stand for.

Wake up before these tea party bigots take root and destroy our country.

Max in Scottsdale; February 11, 2010 at 12:02 PM
Anonymous said...: "The only reason Joe's under investigation is due to progressive assinine agenda, which is tax payer gets to pay for more illegals,...."

Are you going to try that logic with one of his deputies if they ever pull you over for speeding? Well, it's not going to work for Sheriff Joe, either. He made his bed. He, like any politician, can fool some of the people some of the time. Don't get me started about that though.

And, no, I have had no such contact with MCSO. In fact, mine- when they responded to a false alarm at a building we were constructing was very positive. I happened to be born to white parents though.

Immigration is not the issue. The issue is that he has evidently broken some laws, and abused the authority with which he was entrusted. He has cost Maricopa County taxpayers lots of money, and brought shame and ridicule to the county.; February 11, 2010 at 12:08 PM
Anonymous said...: Max, I find your posts thoughtful and interesting. Thanks.

Were you an official in the party, or ran publicly as a Republican? It matters to me because I am curious (though off-topic) as to why you choose now to be an Independent.; February 11, 2010 at 12:16 PM
JW Simms said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; February 11, 2010 at 12:29 PM
Anonymous said...: Simms: "To all of you Lilly livered white or black trash Anonymous posters." After reading the first sentence why would anyone expect anything intelligent or worthwhile in the remainder of your lengthy post?

I am not going to waste my time. I doubt that you value feedback, but it you do: May I suggest that you stick to the issues and the documented facts. People might then be inclined to read. Nobody, I dare say, wants or needs to read a lengthy tirade.; February 11, 2010 at 12:35 PM
JW Simms said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; February 11, 2010 at 12:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Simms: You have issues. You seem to be itching for a fight. You can get therapy, years, or go to a bar or a training gym and pick a fight with a real man.

After a few weeks in the hospital, I'm confident you'll be inclined to get a life.; February 11, 2010 at 12:58 PM
Anonymous said...: It's funny how the corrupt politions in most states/Wash. are'nt investigated & in jail!; February 11, 2010 at 1:11 PM
Anonymous said...: I wish it were funny, some are (one was just recently sentenced Washington, from LA). I can't remember his first name, but he had $80K in his freezer. I just checked mine, and found only some ice cream, frozen veggies, meat and TV dinners. I'll check again later. Duke Cunningham, and a few others are imprisoned or were recently released.

But they make the rules- seemingly just for everyone else. They have to act blatantly or very egregiously, it seems. Which brings us back to Joe.

Arpaio is one politician who is being investigated. And it looks like there's mounting evidence to prove the allegations. Stay tuned.; February 11, 2010 at 1:37 PM
Anonymous said...: From Max to the guy who wanted to know about my past Republican involvement.

I was an elected party official, not an elected polititian.

That being said, I became an independent because I refuse to march in lockstep with any ideology -- especially when the right wing extremeists took over the party. I choose to think for myself.

Max in Scottsdale; February 11, 2010 at 1:49 PM
Anonymous said...: JW Simms, you are either going to hurt yourself or someone else (or both). Nobody can harbor that much hatred and not eventually act out in a self-destructive way.

You need to get help- even Joe, as little as I think of him, would tell you that from his experience. He might be willing to talk to you- but you need to talk to someone. Do it for your own good.; February 11, 2010 at 1:51 PM
JW Simms said...: Anonymous said...

Simms: "To all of you Lilly livered white or black trash Anonymous posters." After reading the first sentence why would anyone expect anything intelligent or worthwhile in the remainder of your lengthy post?

I am not going to waste my time. I doubt that you value feedback, but it you do: May I suggest that you stick to the issues and the documented facts. People might then be inclined to read. Nobody, I dare say, wants or needs to read a lengthy tirade.

: The documented" facts are my friend, that the undocumented" (Mexican alien ) is here!! and he is going to take what you have worked for, he will even take your children if that's his wish and you will do absolutely nothing about it. Is this better? J.W. Simms.; February 11, 2010 at 2:19 PM
Just a decent human being, unlike you. said...: So everyone who disagrees with you must be a Mexican? Shows how you think. I am not a mexican. I don't like Arpaio. I don't like fowl trash like you. Go back to whatever backwater jerkwater little one horse redneck town you came from loser!; February 11, 2010 at 2:46 PM
Anonymous said...: JW- Ya' know I have literally thousands of friends of all races (mostly white though), and many of those are scattered throughout the Valley of the Sun and Tucson. I've never heard one of them say that any of their children have been bothered. My wife and family have never had a problem- and we've been valley residents for decades. It probably happens- but that is a statistical certainty.

The statistics indicate there's more to fear from US citizens, unless you reside in Mexico. The cartel violence there is severe and is spreading to the US. That needs to be stopped soon. Efforts are underway to supress it here and in Mexico, but they are slow going. Especially for those that live in the thick of it, as in Juarez- it is daily terror. Maybe the only worse places to live are in the war torn mid-East.

Arpaio has no more to do with mitigating that cartel violence and the underlying problem than any other local law enforcement person.

However, allow me to give credit where it's due. A few years ago he was on TV, and we were ready to dismiss his appearance as yet another lame but ineffective publicity stunt- er, law enforcement sweep. But he said something that was very important (and I am going from memory): Heroine is soon going to be the most dangerous problem we face as a society. He was 100% right from a law-enforcement perspective. Most of those drugs come from Mexico, about 90% (as we all know from watching the news).

However, this is not really about illegal immigration- not okay- but not what Joe was warning about. Racists are making that the only issue. Arpaio's office doesn't handle it well (grand jury time), despite all the noise he makes.

You are still full of hatred. Please point out a time in history when that improved anyone's life. It just makes you and those around you miserable.

If you are spoiling for violence, you will get it- and you will pay the price- I just hope you get a chance to change afterward.; February 11, 2010 at 2:54 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To anonymous who posted this.

Mark, you are becoming more reasonable in your tone. That is welcome and refreshing. My posts are all original, but my facts aren't. I rely on reliable sources.

I read with interest your post about Nazi Germany, and found some surprises. You didn't take a tone of admiring Hitler, though you fell short of condemning him as an evil dictator.

I guess I didn't come right out and say he was. I tried to post what facts about Hitler I knew, without using my own judgment of him, something I wish our media could do. (I found PBS does this better than most news stations.) As far as my personnel opinion of Hitler, he was a peace of shit for sure. I wish that Delta force would of taken him out. Many lives on both sides would of been saved. A more confident leader, would of known when to throw the towel in. But not Hitler, he sent the Hitler youth to the front lines in the last defense off Germany. The men German soldiers knew the war was lost, but they didn't dare tell a Hitler youth that. Those kids wouldn't of believed the adult, and would of tried to kill the adult German soldiers for such words.

I believe you and I agree on most all I've said and what you say, except maybe when it comes to Joe. I believe Joe helps the majority and you believe he is a dictator. I wrote a blog awhile back titled "America the Dictatorship." I think you would agree with my words. But in short, the blog shows our lobbyist ran system is really a dictatorship. Why? When lobbyist buy our politicians for the interest of big money, that really is the same as any dictatorship would be. A Dictatorship is ran by rich interest, pretty much the same as our system.

I know if I were to of wrote that blog two years ago, many would of dismissed me as an extremist. But today, many have a hard time finding what I said radical. thanks to the actions of the system in the last couple years.
The system got a little too arrogant for their own good, exposing many to their true colors. When the system raised fuel prices to over four dollars a gallon, I was ecstatic! It made many here open their eyes. Then the system lowered the price of fuel to under two dollars a gallon! I was even more ecstatic! It was too late, the damage was done and many eyes stayed opened wide. Now everyone knows about going green and way more realize the true color of the system that runs our politicians, no matter which of the three parties they belong to.

Well, this is long post already, so by for now. It is my dinner time too.; February 11, 2010 at 5:01 PM
Anonymous said...: Hi Mark- I will look forward to reading your post. I wish I had time now, but I have to go somewhere and won't be back for awhile. Your tone has changed to a degree that amazes me.

I have been careful in my research and have given no weight to anyone's press releases or opinion. There are quite a few areas where we agree, but I will make no effort to convince you of my point of view. I would like to ask a few questions later about your views and methodology.; February 11, 2010 at 5:25 PM
Mark Gasser said...: To anonymous who posted this,

Hi Mark- I will look forward to reading your post. I wish I had time now, but I have to go somewhere and won't be back for awhile. Your tone has changed to a degree that amazes me.

I am looking forward to any questions you would like to ask of me.

About my tone to many here. Many didn't disserve my tone. Yet some here did bring out some, not so nice ways to talk to people. I know, I shouldn't stoop to such words, and I apologize for those words.

For sure I love to hear others opinions. We all are in a way, a book of our own uniqueness.; February 11, 2010 at 5:57 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Hey Mark -

Glad you're out here tonight (although I would have expected nothing less of you!)

You never really answered my question about the truce. I am glad that you never replied to Simms, either. Simms is a bad apple. Full of worms eating at his soul. That's why he talks the way he does.

I want you to know that I have NO PROBLEM with your views on illegal immigrants. It is sad that this issue is so divisive. I basically agree with your posts about that topic. I have an adult daughter who has been unemployed for 2 years because of this economy. I WISH the illegals would leave the US and let these jobs be available to citizens. So many times, the pro-Joe and anti-Joe think this is a disagreement about the illegals BEING HERE. It really isn't. EVERYONE I know who dislikes Joe Arpaio AGREES with you about illegals. Myself included, by the way...I am all for people looking to better their lives. If you want to leave Mexico and move to the US, wait at the boarder until you

a.) Speak fluent English

b.) Have a job opportunity that no US CITIZEN will take

c.) Have the ability to pay for your own health care, education, housing, food, etc... without draining our economy.

d.) Have a US Government issues green card or work visa.

I do not disagree with you on any of these points.

Here is where we disagree:

You think Joe is doing a GREAT JOB because he TALKS BIG about illegals.

I believe Joe uses this issue as a Vote-getter, and that he is pathetically ineffective with regard to illegals. He 'hosted' 12 - yes, count 'em - 12 "crime suppression sweeps" utilizing the time of dozens of deputies at (who knows what cost - Joe doesn't - how can we) an exorbatant amount of money. Net round up? 350 illegals. More than that cross the boarder EVERY DAY. He's not effective in combating the issue. He's just using it as his ticket to continue to get re-elected.

You believe that, above all else, Joe should be praised for his "efforts" versus illegals.

I belive that, above all else, Joe should be held accountable to ALL of the duties of his office. He uses the issue of illegals as an excuse to NOT DO his duties. He is so busy chasing down brown skinned janitors and landscapers that he leaves more than 65% of his offices cases unsolved.

Lastly, you think that Joe is "right on top of things" and that he is the saviour of the Great White Hope.

I think he is a corrupt, senile, egocentrical, theatrical, old, withered fool. His goal is votes and attention. I would prefer a sheriff who focuses on gettin his job done more than he focuses on getting on TV.

So what's it on the truce? I'm willing if you are.; February 11, 2010 at 6:33 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Hi Liz,
Just saw your post here. Give me a minute to answer you ok? I was, believe it or not, checking out a poetry page lol but true. It is a good page, that you would like too. Even Simms would like it, for real, I think you both would?; February 11, 2010 at 6:56 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Ok, so the above post was getting a little long, so I ended it on the illegal immigration issue.

Beyond that, I have big issues with the way Joe wants to use his power as the Sheriff to railroad anyone who disagrees with him.

Mark, I won't talk about the article we argued about on the other board, which you laughingly agreed that I did NOT make 100 posts about... but I brought that up because of the Lovejoy case. Tom Lovejoy, a Chandler Canine Unit head, left his dog, Bandit, in the car while he went into his house for a few minutes to take care of a few things. During the course of doing that, he learned his son with in a car accident, life carried him from one thing to the next to the next to the next ... hours later he realized that he had left Bandit in the car. He found the dog deceased.

Terrible! No doubt about it. The Chandler PD did an internal investigation and found that Lovejoy was "negligent". They demoted him and put him back out as a 'beat cop'. He lost his partner, Bandit, a job that he loved as heading up the canine unit, his personal privacy as the Valley spewed all of it's vomit of hatred on these blogs, his kids were harassed at school, and life just sucked at the Lovejoy home.

But that wasn't enough for Joe Arpaio.

After years of being criticized because he always found that his own officers "did nothing wrong", Joe spotted an opportunity to hang an officer out to dry. Not one of HIS officers, mind you, but an officer none the less.

He pursued feloney animal cruelty charges against Lovejoy, had him arrested and hand-cuffed in front of his fellow Chandler PD officers, held a press conference with crocodile tears as he talked about how it was one of the hardest things he had ever done, but HIS investiagation showed that the charges were warranted, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah.... and then lost. Lovejoy was aquitted. (Thank God!)

Joe, on camera, retracted his "it's the hardest decision I've ever had to make" video. When under duress, he indicated that he had no personal knowledge of the situation, he had not personally made any decision about the charges, and was not in a position to be deposed by Lovejoy's attorney.

The Lovejoy's now have a lawsuit pending against MCSO and, even though it's my tax dollars that would be awarded, I hope they win.

This is a perfect example of how Joe abuses his power as Sheriff for his own gain. He believed that convicting Lovejoy of feloney animal cruelty would gain him votes and favor, and used Tom and his family as pawns in his misguided game of chess.

This is one of many, many, many stories of Maricopa County CITIZENS who have felt the sting of Joe's arrogance and self-serving arrogance.

Looking beyond illegals, Mark, and really THINKING about what Joseph M. Arpaio represents, are you SURE you want to be his trubador?

Back at ya later.; February 11, 2010 at 7:10 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Hey Mark -

Take all the time you need.

I'm off work for 4 days, so I'll be around a lot!; February 11, 2010 at 7:11 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: PS - Mark,

I cannot, in my wildest dreams, imagine Simms and I appreciating the same poetry. ROTFL!; February 11, 2010 at 7:14 PM
Mark Gasser said...: Hi Liz,
I appreciate the kind words of yours for sure. For sure you and I are like the majority of people here. It may be hard to see but, Simms, you and I have very similar believes. I know I know, Simms can be very rude to you and others on here. Still, I think he is just as much on the side of what is really right for the majority, as you and I are. He is frustrated as much as you and I are, when we see our politicians(lets keep Joe out of it for a second) but many others, screw the majority. It would be way great if we all found a truce and decide to love our neighbors instead of fight them. For in reality, unless you or Simms are a multi millionaire, we all three are really in the same boat on the same sea.

The system is very good at keeping us the majority divided. As long as we divide into two or even better yet three political parties, the majority is powerless. But a united majority, is all power, as long as we still have our constitution. If two thirds of us agree on one issue, we can fire any politician we want. That is our constitutional right. But divided into two political parties and fighting our neighbor, the system has nothing to fear from us the majority. The system has survived this long on this mentality. For sure Simms, you and I, need to start acting like great people with great power. If we do think like this, we ARE!

I feel bad for your daughter. I hope she can find a job soon. Yes, the modern day slaves take the jobs legal American could be doing. But the slaves really aren’t the greatest reason many here have no work. The system that allowed free trade and gave incentives and tax breaks to companies to send jobs over seas, are far greater the cause your daughter and many others here have no work. Yes I am against the system that allows the slaves here. Not because I hate or don’t agree with these people, but because I know the system that runs us all, loves and depends on the slaves.

That is the same reason I support Joe. He is the only sheriff I ever heard of, that will arrest a modern day slave for simple being illegal. Whether Joe does this just to get support, really isn’t the most important thing to me. What is most important to me, Joe is one out of all the other sheriffs, that does arrest the slaves for simple being illegal. The rest listen to the federal government when told to leave the illegals alone.

Maybe Joe is taking a huge risk for this? I have to wonder? So I have to give Joe credit for being the David that stands up to the giant all alone. I feel Joe has put him self in a very risky position by doing this, no matter what his reasons? It is hard for me not to admire the man. He is a bit of a Robin Hood in my eyes. Hey, I’m not saying I am right for these feeling, but they are my real feelings.

As far as the 65 percent of unsolved cases by his deputies, that is really a hard number to understand. If you compare that to deputies that solve 80 percent of their cases, we would also have to compare that percentage to the amount of civilians per police officer. I don’t know how this rating would compare in a per capita percentage compared to forces with a much higher percentage rating?

No matter who is right and who is wrong. Simms, you and I would all three be far better off and way more powerful, if we learned to love our neighbor. Truce it is for me, it would be great if it is for you two too.; February 11, 2010 at 7:38 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Hey Mark.

It's a truce for you and me.

Simms needs to apologize to me for the rude and vulgar things he has said before I would say the same to him. And the apology needs to be sincere. (I watch Super Nanny - LOL)

I really believe that there is a common ground between the pro Joe and anti Joe bloggers. It's just a matter of getting "the other side" to see what you are saying. Perhaps you and I can be a good example. I hope you truly realize that I agree with your stance on illegals, disagree with you on your stance on Joseph M. Arpaio and are OK with the fact that we agree to disagree on His Highness, and can intellectually debate topics related to these issues without vehemence and insults.

Contrary to what "Simms" seems to think, I am not a disgusting person. I have read your posts, Mark, and while I don't agree with everything you say, I acknowledge your passion about your position, and don't disagree with a lot of what you say.

So, Simms can bite me.

IF........ he can catch me. Which he can't! LOL!; February 11, 2010 at 7:57 PM
Anonymous said...: So, whens the wedding?; February 11, 2010 at 8:24 PM
Anonymous said...: They're already married- why do you think they fight like that? They stopped speaking to each other years ago.

KIDDING! I meant it all in fun. Now everyone's going to be mad at Anonymous!!!; February 11, 2010 at 8:52 PM
Anonymous said...: Mark, Liz I am glad we're all getting along, and the discourse should continue on a kind plane, as now.

Mark, you said: "As far as the 65 percent of unsolved cases by his deputies, that is really a hard number to understand. If you compare that to deputies that solve 80 percent of their cases, we would also have to compare that percentage to the amount of civilians per police officer."

Let's examine this. That means that MCSO deputies solve 35% of their cases (which isn't documented, in fact it's contrary to what has been determined, given the rate of "exceptional clearance", and the figures Arpaio has published (while admitting poor record keeping) for the number of cases solved.

One might assume that his deputies have a higher caseload. Even if that were so (and it is not significantly different than any other local metro department)- this would make him diverting resources to the ineffective crime sweeps aforementioned by Liz all the more aggregious!

How about giving his job to Hendershott, thereby reducing his pay to less than half of what it is now? That's a sarcastic suggestion. Nobody has ever adequately explained why the chief deputy is worth well over twice the pay of the Sheriff. However, they are both parts of the problem with ineffective law enforcement by MCSO.; February 11, 2010 at 9:07 PM
JW Simms said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; February 11, 2010 at 10:32 PM
Anonymous said...: Simms- why are you so hateful? People are trying to have a respectful discussion about a problem, or problems in government operations.

Why do you feel the need to tear others down and try to make sure that Mark Gasser conforms to the mold that you have determined for him. I doubt it's a mold of your design, since your repetitive attacks and name calling lack creativity or any sign of originality.

Do you think you can discuss the issues, and respectfully address others as you would like them to address you?

I have disagreed with Mark on numerous occasions for a couple weeks or more. He has changed his tone to one that is much more pleasant and reasonable. Everyone but you, it seems, finds that to be a refreshing change.

Congress is pretty messed up, but can you imagine how the governance would decline (seemingly impossible, I know), and chaos would ensue if they were as hateful to those who disagree with them as you are to others? On the other hand, you've indicated that your common decency can be bought.

Please Simmmer down! You are going to destroy yourself, same as Hitler. But you don't have the gravitas to take anyone with you. Regardless, nobody wants to see that happen.; February 11, 2010 at 10:46 PM
Lawn Order said...: Simms- how would you like to be banned? Your foul, perverse, and hateful post to Liz is unrelated to the purpose of this discussion. This is not a place for name calling and to express your perverse sexuality.

If you can't control yourself, what compelling argument do you think you can make?

I suggest you retract your most recent post addressing Liz. Nobody is asking you to become a gentleman, but surely a little decency is not beyond your capability.; February 11, 2010 at 10:57 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: It's a good thing I don't take Simms seriously. He's such a pathetic, angry, miserable person that if I were to take his comments to heart, it might really bother me. Fortunately, I recognize the fact that he is more like some character in a Dean Koontz novel than a real human being and don't let him get to me.

However, it's clear that I get under his skin. LOL! Such a big, tough guy! He feels (wrongly) that he's empowered by talking stupid crap to a woman. How's your love life Simms? Yeah, crap! I thought so!; February 11, 2010 at 11:04 PM
Lawn Order said...: A lot of people don't want to read his profane hate speech. And children have access to this blog.; February 11, 2010 at 11:05 PM
Anonymous said...: Liz,

Don't worry about JW. He does not know how to talk to women. That is just one of his many faults. That is most likely the reason why he is a frustrated and lonely loser!; February 12, 2010 at 8:36 AM
Lawn Order said...: It's not about him, and Liz as well as many adults can take it- as she posts away her factual reporting about Joe. She shouldn't have to. Others, including young children see this blog. That kind of language is inappropriate.

It is also not necessary- if one has adequate command of English, "the(ir) official language of the US". Some people substitute profanity, and vulgarity for intellect when they type. To me it shows how weak is their point, and often their point of view.; February 12, 2010 at 8:49 AM
Anonymous said...: I agree. Whenever I hear a person argue his or her point using profanity or overtly berating the other person, it is evident that this individual has substituted bad language and name calling for intellectual argument. To me, this is a strong indicater that the person is of limited intellect and has not been fortunate enough to have received a quality education

I don't mean that the person had to attend college, language skills are taught in high schools all over the nation. Some people just refuse to learn or think it is macho to act and sound the fool.

Arguments intellegently and thoughtfully carried forth are much more persuasive than the prattle of the uncouth.

In short, if you want to have a good chance of being paid attention to, play nice in the sandbox. Otherwise, you come off as a fool and nobody cares what you say or do.

Max in Scottsdale; February 12, 2010 at 9:25 AM
Anonymous said...: Mark Gasser: I would like to ask you to express your views on the white-supremacists and their movement(s). Are they beneficial to society? Why do you think they are or are not?

Would you consider yourself to be a white-supremacist? Many have thrown that accusation at you as I read these blogs. But as far as I am concerned they are just accusations based on assumptions based on something you might have said or are perceived to have said.; February 12, 2010 at 10:14 AM
Anonymous said...: Yeah Mark, let us know how you view Hitler and Gernamy in the 1930's and 40's??? I can't wait for this one. Also JW Simms blows chipmonks...; February 12, 2010 at 11:57 AM
Anonymous said...: "Yeah Mark, let us know how you view Hitler and Gernamy in the 1930's and 40's??? "

He has already responded to that thoroughly, and thoughtfully. If you really want answers to your questions, you should read his posts (from yesterday, I think).

I never thought I would come to Mark Gasser's defense- but even though I think he got some history wrong, I have no choice. I consider most of Joe's supporters to be utterly untruthful, and pitifully uninformed. They post no verifiable, documented facts to support their views. Mark, however, was refreshingly candid in answering those questions. Dare I say- even cogent?

I am looking forward to similarly candid responses to the questions about the white-supremacist movement.; February 12, 2010 at 1:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Go to MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF"S OFFICE WEB SITE YOU MIGHT BE ENLIGHTENED. YOUR SO CALLED FACTS BY NEWS MEDIA BACKTRACKING ON BEING UNTRUTHFUL REPORTING ON OUR GREAT JOE!; February 12, 2010 at 2:05 PM
Anonymous said...: JW Simms' apparently has a serious emotional issue. Try to just ignore him. If he continues to post obscenity, he will need to be banned. This site is available to people of all ages, but isn't appropriate from young children. Grownups are disgusted by his posts.

He's self-destructive, just filled with vileness and hatred. He seems to have a fair amount of intelligence, but he is wasting it. I don't think he's a happy person. He compensates by lashing out, and trying to make others as miserable as himself.

J.W. give this some thought, and please post your views, but kindly refrain from obscene, cruel or hateful speech. That way you can continue to be (a welcome) part of the conversation.

As Max posted earlier, paraphrasing him: If someone needs to call others names, they don't have much of a point, and couldn't make a compelling argument if they did.; February 12, 2010 at 2:07 PM
Anonymous said...: Go to MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF"S OFFICE WEB SITE...

Go to any politician's website to get their own self-serving PR spin. After doing that, it is wise to inform yourself from other points of view, preferably more objective ones.

It requires effort to research what is going on. Much of it is in the public record, which is widely disseminated in the media (like it or not). They document the sources of their information. Or you can dig through records yourself.

Is it wise to take a politician's word for anything?

You might as well say: "Read Joe's books, or watch his reality TV shows." Those are marketing copy.; February 12, 2010 at 2:15 PM
Anonymous said...: There's definitly something wrong with civil right lawyers trying to make Joe illegal,& fighting for illegals. Illegals & civil right lawyers are the criminals,just like criminals get more rights than the victims...Legal citizens & Joe are the victims in this scam.; February 12, 2010 at 3:35 PM
Anonymous said...: "There's definitly something wrong with civil right lawyers trying to make Joe illegal,& fighting for illegals."

Would you kindly post some examples (that readers can find in print) that support your opinion?

We see a lot of very general, sweeping statements like this from Arpaio's supporters, but extremely seldom anything to substantiate the statements or bear out the argumentation.

Thanks a lot.; February 12, 2010 at 3:51 PM
Good Riddance! said...: Be glad when tubby is gone and his whole entourage goes with him! Goodbye Tyrant! Take the fatty HenderBlimp with yah!; February 12, 2010 at 3:55 PM
Anonymous said...: Apparently you don't hear/see any coruption going on anywhere, you are like the corruption in Wash. We've all been progresively brainwashed for many years, until it was time to take over our lives/freedoms. I don't want more government, & you do, so the progressive agenda is going out in 2010. I don't cater to illegals, homeless etc. they need to go to this progressive administration to be catered to. You people can spread your wealth to the many losers in society thanks to the mob & cronies in Wash. & people who are nieve/ignorant of the truth.; February 12, 2010 at 4:16 PM
Lawn Order said...: I've asked many times, but never had anyone answer: Why is the chief deputy worth well more than twice what the Sheriff is paid? What interest do the citizens of Maricopa County have in MCSO helping Honduras at their (taxpayer) expense?

Arpaio: $97,000
Chief Deputy Henderschott: $232,000 (including pension from MCSO that he is currently being paid in addition to his annual salary)

There are others who are "double-dipping", some 4,000 on the public payrolls in AZ:

http://www.kpho.com/money/19313025/detail.html

My question is about the disparity in MCSO's upper-ranks.; February 12, 2010 at 4:21 PM
Anonymous said...: Obama & cronies have made everything worse for America since the take over,but not for the people that want hand-outs=gov.control!; February 12, 2010 at 4:21 PM
J.W. Simms said...: First, I want to apologize to Liz F North Phoenix. I have been an ignorant, belligerent, uneducated, unkept, bombastic, crude and pathetic man for having spoken to her the way I have.

Additionally, I would like to apologize to all of the mature, free-thinking, intelligent people on this website for my absolutely appauling behavior in addressing a woman in the manner that I have.

I have never met Liz F North Phoenix, and I don't know whether she is thin, volumptuous or fat. I don't know whether she is 35 or 75. I don't really know anything about her except that she does not support Joe Arpaio and I have taken exception to that and decided to exercise poor judgement in speaking abusively to her because we disagree.

I am so sorry I spoke to her the way I did and am repentant.

Your much more humble J. W. Simms; February 12, 2010 at 4:40 PM
Arpaio Supporters R Dumb said...: I am not sure why some ass mentioned Obama in the Arpaio thread. Obama is a respected national political figure who became president. Arpaio is a low life sheriff in Arizona, a nothing, or soon to become nothing.

I don't see the similarities....; February 12, 2010 at 5:01 PM
Anonymous said...: Some retard above said,

Obama & cronies have made everything worse for America since the take over,but not for the people that want hand-outs=gov.control!

The only people asking for a handout during a budget crisis in Arizona appear to be Arpaio and the MCSO. If he does not get his way or his money he throws a temper tantrum and investigates the people who write up the budget. Arpaio is the problem in this state not Obama. Arpaio needs to be removed and he soon shall be.; February 12, 2010 at 5:29 PM
Anonymous said...: Boy, that sure tells me alot that your just ignorant to facts.; February 12, 2010 at 5:29 PM
smell the dumbass said...: "Alot means nothing because it is not a word in the English language
and therefore should not to be used."
SOURCE: http://www.garypaulson.net/archives/allot-vs-alot-vs-a-lot-spelling/; February 12, 2010 at 5:44 PM
Anonymous said...: "Obama & cronies have made everything worse for America since the take over.." Oh- and Spiderman needs your help to stop evil. Don't forget to put air in your kitchen sink, and pet your refrigerator.

Really- you can't defend Arpaio better than that? I know, I know!!!; February 12, 2010 at 6:08 PM
smell the dumbass said...: How to Use You're and Your

http://www.wikihow.com/Use-You're-and-Your; February 12, 2010 at 6:09 PM
Anonymous said...: What he/she said- ditto:

The only people asking for a handout during a budget crisis in Arizona appear to be Arpaio and the MCSO. If he does not get his way or his money he throws a temper tantrum and investigates the people who write up the budget. Arpaio is the problem in this state not Obama. Arpaio needs to be removed and he soon shall be.; February 12, 2010 at 6:09 PM
smell the dumbass said...: "ignorant to facts"

Was that idiot attempting to say that you are ignorant of the facts?

I'll bet that he is one of those English should be the official language of Arizona guys. It is too bad that he can neither write nor speak English well enough to qualify as a speaker of the English language.; February 12, 2010 at 6:12 PM
Anonymous said...: To JW Simms- thank you. (It was a little sarcastic, but we like sarcasm.) I know you can and will make more pertinent arguments to support your belief in Joe. I've seen you do it before. Even though I disagree with your opinion, I appreciate it when you have presented it in a logical and respectful manner.

But I am just one guy.; February 12, 2010 at 6:15 PM
Evolution At Work said...: JW is now writing love notes to himself! How pathetic! I hope you bought yourself something for your solo celebration of valentines day!; February 12, 2010 at 6:21 PM
Lawn Order said...: Come on- why can't this Arpaio thread be about him and MCSO? There's plenty to say on that theme. No need to waste space trash talking.; February 12, 2010 at 6:24 PM
KARMA said...: Mean people, like Arpaio and his supporters, deserve the meanest expressions of contempt available to low lives like themselves.; February 12, 2010 at 6:30 PM
Lawn Order said...: "We've all been progresively (sic) brainwashed for many years". Speak for yourself.

You go on to say that others are ignorant of the truth, having posted not a single pertinent fact. Can anyone who supports how the Sheriff is doing his job provide any documentation to demonstrate a basis for that belief?

I have asked several specific questions, and have gotten ZERO (0) specific answers from his supporters.

Even people who bought Yugos could give a reason or reasons and show where they got the information.; February 12, 2010 at 6:32 PM
I pretended to be the "nice" JW Simms said...: To all of you fools who think Simms actually apologized, you've been had.

I am not Simms.

I am only posting what I think Simms should say.

But, no... Simms is still an ignorant, foolish, beligerent, uneducated, abusive jerk.; February 12, 2010 at 6:47 PM
Anonymous said...: Bottom line, capitol hill has alot to do with Joe with THEIR ABUSIVE POWER, those are the ones that are going to be prosecuted by the american people!; February 12, 2010 at 7:08 PM
Anonymous said...: Capitol hill wants to rule our state, not gonna happen.; February 12, 2010 at 7:10 PM
The special Ed students said...: "THEIR ABUSIVE POWER"

Are you trying to grunt Their abuse of power?; February 12, 2010 at 7:10 PM
Cavemen said...: Me Joe supporter! Me make use of fire and tools and Engrish languaaaauugggggeee!!! Arrrrrrrr!; February 12, 2010 at 7:12 PM
Anonymous said...: Caveman!!!!

And not the first time for "ABUSIVE POWER..." - why'd you have to tell 'em? They obviously don't understand the difference- in other words "abuse of power" means the same thing. It's just spelled different (sic).; February 12, 2010 at 7:22 PM
Anonymous said...: Wake up 7 get your head out the sand!; February 12, 2010 at 7:24 PM
Some abortions should be retroactive said...: Capitol hill wants to rule our state, not gonna happen.

Take a civics class idiot. The Federal government already does rule our state.; February 12, 2010 at 7:28 PM
Liz F - North Phoenix said...: Lovejoy's malicious prosecution against Joe Arpaio will go forward, according to the court decision released on Wednesday.

I just hope that Tom and his family get every cent they are suing for, even though it's being paid for by my tax dollar.

C - send me an email with your phone number to the same email address you had for me but make it q.com instead of qwest.com. Starts with sm... you know who I am...

There is something wrong with my email where I can't send outgoing messages - something to do with my anti-virus software. Get in touch with me; February 12, 2010 at 7:34 PM
Anonymous said...: Sheriff Joe & people who voted him in many times need to put the federal government in jail for abusing their power. First,investigated, definitly found guilty, in jail right now!; February 12, 2010 at 9:06 PM
Da Gubment said...: "put the federal government in jail for abusing their power"

That's brilliant bumpkin, put the GUBMENT in jail. The gubment.....; February 12, 2010 at 9:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Good one!!! "Sheriff Joe & people who voted him in many times need to put the federal government in jail for abusing their power. First,investigated, definitly found guilty, in jail right now!"

This will keep me laughing for... never mind.; February 12, 2010 at 9:41 PM
Anonymous said...: Sounds silly, but this is a serious question:

Is Joe Arpaio afraid to sue anyone?; February 12, 2010 at 10:04 PM

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